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[โ€“] 160 points 4 days ago (14 children)

The joke is that the ten bullet points at the end are completely different from the ten bullet points that started it all.

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  • [โ€“] 57 points 4 days ago (12 children)

    It's a game of Chinese-room whispers.

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  • [+] -7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children)

    That sounds racist.... right?

    Time to think of a new name? Like we dont call Brazilian nuts by their "other" name anymore.

    Edit: oh, I cant compare those?

    Well how about a different term that has fallen out of use: "sitting Indian style". Yea we dont call it that anymore, even if it was common childhood name. We grow up, we recognize that unnecessary racial assignment is a racist.

    So, no, I dont think the defense of "thats just we called it as kids" is a valid reason to keep saying it today. Youre just perpetuating "thats just how people talked", "its from a different time" normalization and casual racism.

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    I've always seen it referred as 'Chinese Whispers'.

    Before that it was called 'Russian Gossip'.

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    ive only ever seen it called a game of telephone idk where the racial part came from

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    That's not really a fair comparison, because "Chinese" is not a slur; it's the preferred adjective (just like "Brazilian").

    I do think it's a bit racist though, because it specifically exoticizes/others Chinese people/things.

    I once knew a Mexican girl who went by "China" ("Chinese" in Spanish) because she was born with blonde hair, which makes no sense except that "Chinese" is used as a synonym for "weird".

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  • [โ€“] 77 points 3 days ago (1 child)
    [โ€“] 69 points 3 days ago (13 children)

    I feel like I'm too autistic for this shit. I'm an engineer and just send out the bullet points. Why are we wasting everyone's time with this overly verbose garbage? What happened to celebrating brevity? Just give us the 24 hr work week and give up this farce.

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    There is an idea among the neurotypicals that longer is better, in part because the academic environment rewards length. More words is more better.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Not all academic environments reward length; psychology is quite the opposite where brevity and being concise are lauded. In my entire undergraduate psychology degree my longest maximum word-count for an assignment was 1500 words. Most were around 1000 words and a few were 700-800 words. Many people struggled with getting all the info they wanted into that space but I really thrived.

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  • [โ€“] 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Yeah i do this. Whenever i try to write in paragraphs the recipient ends up not responding to half of it. It's like they reach the first question and stop reading.

    This AI expansion and summarization reminds me of when translation online was new and you'd translate something then translate it back and get a totally different thing.

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  • Online translators seem to have gotten a lot better! Your comment, translated to Mandarin and back:

    ๆ˜ฏ็š„๏ผŒๆˆ‘ไนŸไผš่ฟ™ๆ ทๅšใ€‚ๆฏๆฌกๆˆ‘ๅฐ่ฏ•ๅˆ†ๆฎต่ฝๅ†™ไธœ่ฅฟ๏ผŒๆ”ถไปถไบบๆœ€ๅŽ้ƒฝไผšๆœ‰ไธ€ๅŠๅ†…ๅฎนๆฒกๆœ‰ๅ›žๅบ”ใ€‚ๆ„Ÿ่ง‰ไป–ไปฌ่ฏปๅˆฐ็ฌฌไธ€ไธช้—ฎ้ข˜ๅฐฑๅœๆญข้˜…่ฏปไบ†ใ€‚

    ่ฟ™็ง AI ๆ‰ฉๅ†™ๅ’Œๆ€ป็ป“่ฎฉๆˆ‘ๆƒณ่ตทไบ†ๆ—ฉๆœŸ็ฝ‘็ปœ็ฟป่ฏ‘ๅˆšๅ‡บ็Žฐ็š„ๆ—ถๅ€™๏ผšไฝ ๆŠŠไธ€ๆฎต่ฏ็ฟป่ฏ‘ๆˆๅฆไธ€็ง่ฏญ่จ€๏ผŒๅ†็ฟป่ฏ‘ๅ›žๅŽŸๆฅ็š„่ฏญ่จ€๏ผŒ็ป“ๆžœๅพ—ๅˆฐ็š„ๅ†…ๅฎนๅดๅฎŒๅ…จๅ˜ไบ†ใ€‚

    Yes, I do this too. Whenever I try to write something in paragraphs, the recipient inevitably ends up not responding to half of what I wrote. It feels like they get to the first question and just stop reading.

    This AI expansion and summarization reminds me of the early days of online translation, when you could translate something into another language and then translate it back, only to end up with something completely different.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 3 days ago

    I changed to bullet points to try and avoid this, didn't much help the situation. people read the first point to the third level deep and didn't go past, instead of skimming all the top level bullet points and then going deeper as appropriate into each one

    ex:

    • I hear X is a problem

    -- is it because of Y or Z?


    if Y, our options are A and B


    if Z, our option is C

    there'd be four items like that, people wouldn't read past the first. I gave up and now just leave items as perpetually open pending a decision from the people who didn't answer, or I make a decision and then get all pissy with everyone when they come back and ask "well what about ___" like MF I WOULD HAVE ADDRESSED THAT IN THE EMAIL BUT Y'ALL MFS NEVER RESPOND TO THEM SO DON'T FUCKING ASK ME QUESTIONS NOW

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 3 days ago

    I would like to do this, but many people want the fluff and sparkles.

    I have received compliments from coworkers about my AI slop, and I told them, "You know that I just feed a list of bullet points into an AI, right?"

    They were happy anyway. It will probably take some time before everyone gets over the 'wonders' of AI. Until that day, I give them what they want.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 3 days ago

    I used to be like that but learnt that the literal meaning isn't enough for some people, and an emotional impact needs to be created through prose. In general I still prefer brevity if it is very common phrases/jargon.

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  • [โ€“] 85 points 4 days ago (10 children)

    Wow we finally discovered lossy text compression and all it takes is 6000 gallons of water.

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  • [โ€“] 28 points 4 days ago (9 children)

    Butโ€ฆ this is the opposite of compression.

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  • [โ€“] 32 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    True, it's lossy expansion and then lossy compression.

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Youโ€™re absolutely correct, very insightful! Would you like me to turn this into a fascist crackdown on citizenry on top of guzzling critical resources?

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  • [+] 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)
  • [โ€“] 23 points 4 days ago

    A good report should start with an executive summary, so executives don't have to read the full report, yet pretend they have all the info they need to make decisions.

    If we make our own tldr, we can steer executives in the direction we want, while still providing real info to other technical people.

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  • [โ€“] 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    My team leader now wants weekly reports that he gives to his boss who I'm guessing gives them to AI to digest. It feels like we're all just putting on a sock puppet show and pretending it's real.

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  • [โ€“] 14 points 3 days ago* (2 children)

    Was it ever real? I think AI is just exposing how nonsense it all has been for the past 40 to 70 years. This whole corporate culture mindset was built by people who used work to avoid their family and golfed or drank their way through lunch.

    More than 5% of the people alive today got to work jobs in a time before weekly status reports, organizational key results, year end reviews and stacked ranking. There are even worse things from before those so going back isn't the answer. We need to build a new work culture and we should not feel that what we have today is just how it is.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 3 days ago

    It's even funnier now though because I've started including a summary section..."this week I saved the company and outperformed everyone else"...I should get a promotion soon ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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  • [โ€“] 57 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    Everyone boosting AI use acts like it's this little secret that only they know about.

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  • [โ€“] 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 child)

    Yep. I think about it like having a time machine that could go back and change the future, or a printer that outputs perfect money dollars. Would be super useful, but only if somehow you alone, no one else, had the same technology. If everyone has it, it's just chaos and everything sucks.

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I use AI everyday for software development. It's soul sucking and saps any satisfaction from completing anything but you can't put the genie back in the lamp so here we are.

    I have had multiple discussions with non technical people who are on both sides of this image. They sit there talking about how it makes it easier to do the various parts of their job without irony. I just blink back thinking "you are describing a meat proxy". If you are just copy pasting emails from one UI to another why do they need you?

    The anti AI people like to pretend that it's ineffective but there are a large number of people in the middle of the org chart whose job is basically summarizing PowerPoints from below and then pass up. AI can definitely do that and even if it's inefficient it's fast and doesn't need benefits and healthcare.

    Those people are going to get fucked.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 3 days ago

    there are a large number of people in the middle of the org chart whose job is basically summarizing PowerPoints from below and then pass up.

    Middle management?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_management

    Middle management is the intermediate management level of a hierarchical organization that is subordinate to the executive management and responsible for "team leading" line managers and/or "specialist" line managers. Middle management is indirectly (through line management) responsible for junior staff performance and productivity.[1]

    Strategic functions involve analyzing a subordinate group in terms of productivity and financial effectiveness, creating a strategy of improving the current situation and reporting to the executive management in the form of attending a boardroom meeting or a discussion.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 4 days ago

    There are job "cheats" that are efficient - ways to save time that don't affect work product.

    And then there are "cheats" that just push the work to someone else, because some people will gladly save five minutes for themselves even if it creates an hour of work for someone else.

    So yes, the latter people are the ones driving workplace AI adoption, as their "little productivity secret."

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 4 days ago

    If you couldn't be bothered to write it why should I be bothered to read it.

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  • [โ€“] 11 points 3 days ago

    Needs a third panel with a tech bro telling investors thatโ€™s why his company is worth a trillion dollars.

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    It's 2026, god damn it. WHY CAN'T I TELEPORT

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 3 days ago

    This also applies to job applications and resumes.

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 4 days ago

    Slop grenade

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I hate this so much. I have to read project applications and final reports for a living and in the past years this has become a very tedious endeavor. I recognize this shit after two paragraphs and it's so annoying!

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 4 days ago* (1 child)

    Is the joke that AI was writing scripts for this artist and it just gave him the full plot to one of the most well known two-frames of the last 3 years?

    https://marketoonist.com/2023/03/ai-written-ai-read.html

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  • Purple Monkey Dishwasher

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  • Are you classified as human?

    Negative, I'm a meat popsicle proxy

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 4 days ago

    Absolutely brilliant. ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Also 1000 liters of water wasted in the way.

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  • Right. The phenomenon of bullshit jobs. If nobody cares what is written, why not automate it away? Meh.

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  • When I first started learning comp sci a decade ago all the old heads were like, Automate the Boring Stuff, and bragging that they'd written simple routines that did 90 percent of their job.

    The whole time I was thinking, 'When middle management figures out your process you will be eliminated/replaced with an intern.'

    I got out of IT because a future of resetting email passwords/taking the fall for your team when there is inevitably a hack seemed like a stressful future.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 4 days ago

    I feel like Ive read this comic a dozen times in a dozen formats

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 3 days ago

    Gotta burn up the token quota somehow, or the boss will be mad again.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 2 days ago

    Being human.

    Made to be simple and straightforward. Demands sophistication and unnecessary complexity.

    We're a house of cards made of glass and held thoughts and prayers.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 3 days ago

    It is called decoder-encoder identity testing.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 4 days ago

    Pretending that these 10 bullet points cannot be summarised to 1 bullet point.

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