Isn’t Graphene Android?
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They're working on it though.
The thing is that, to achieve the level of privacy and security control they offer, it requires some specific hardware features. Features that, so far, only the Pixel line has offered.
I just don't want to give the shitasses at google money to avoid using another google product.
Not to be a bummer, but GrapheneOS will forever by small and unrecognised as long as it is Pixel only.
I get their perspective, and I don't balme them, but an OS that only works on one lineup of phones that isn't even that popular in many countries, and needs to be sideloaded? It just inherently can't be very popular
They're working on that with an OEM. But right now, Pixels are the only ones meeting their security features requirements.
I have a second hand pixel with graphene, but what we really need is something that isn't downstream of google. If enough people switched to graphene so that it actually hurt google, I'm sure they could do things to make life hard for alternative android based systems.
Does it work with banking apps?
Are there killer features in banking apps that are not available via the bank's website? I understand that different people have different workflows, but for me, I tend to use websites over apps wherever possible.
Seems to work with USAA, though I haven't tried depositing a check yet.
USA here, it works with both my national banks and local credit union apps. One of my credit card apps gives me a pop-up on every page that it won't work because there's no Google play services, but it actually just works anyway. Had to turn exploit compatibility mode off for a couple of them though
"Canadians want an alternative to Android"
Graphene requires Google hardware
Dead in the water. LineageOS and others can be loaded to a whole bunch o'phones.
Graphene for some weird reason decided to grab the bull by the tail. First you need to have the hardware you want, then cones the software. The safest product out there is useless if it can not be used.
It's not dead in the water though. After weighing up all my options, I decided buying a Pixel and immediately putting GrapheneOS on it was better for my privacy and security than getting another non-Google phone, and going through whatever processes required for whatever de-Googled Android ROM on that phone.
I don't like giving money to Google, but when I weighed up all the options this was still the best course for me. Of course, this is just my experience and reasoning.
Besides, it sounds like GrapheneOS is in talks with other OEMs so we may see support in other non-Google devices!
About damn time.
They should have fund raised to have their own custom phone made awhile ago. Not only would it ensure better stability for the long term future of the project, but would rely less on Google.
Of course, Google is still trying to stop all android custom ROM development so that's still an issue. But had they had their own phone made then Google would have to give them expanded access anyway.
Hope PostmarketOS can keep on developing well, because ideally we can get something more universal that's not dependant on Android in the first place past emulating apps.
Take a look at the security functions the Pixel platform hardware provides. It isn't optional.
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