There haven't been many English-language articles on the topic - I'm trying not to be paranoid about it, but it crossed my mind that it's a bit suspicious. With Trump's history and interference intentions, I think the importance of citizen preparation and organization cannot be overstated.

~50k volunteers worked all around the country to stop election fraud

Yes, and be sure to call anyone who disagrees a monster and idiot. Bonus points if after calling them an idiot you say something factually wrong like you're dropping truth bombs. Then step outside and enjoy a victory smoke, the weather is wonderful this time of year in Moscow.

We need to protest and call dem reps as much if not more than republicans, no matter which party holds the majority. We know Dems cave to pressure so we need the progressive electorate to apply it more than republicans do. We’re past the days of assuming these fuckwits will do their jobs correctly without public scrutiny. Once again history proves the price of freedom is constant vigilance.

So then you're ready to organize and take up arms? Because I encourage you to do so. Voting is the small amount of violence direction allotted to you by the system. You should use the hell out of it, because it will be used against you otherwise.

However I agree its not enough, it's the barest minimum of effort. Not the end all be all as many seem to treat it. So if you're not voting, I assume you're calling for direct violent action.

Though I suppose if that's not it, as well. Then I assume you're a Republican Agent, and frankly at that point what you deserve are the exact things you enable.

So what are you? What's your point?

Vote blue but elect progressives in primaries. One doesn't need to be Einstein to figure that out.

I'm sure the CIA has a heart attack gun. If they really wanted rid of him they could be rid of him.

I suppose the problem really is he's a symptom rather than the cause. Getting rid of trump doesn't do anything about the Republicans who allowed this to happen in the first place and were totally okay with it even when he started killing people.

Unless America deals with those people the possibility of returning to a trump like regime always exists.

It's why Europe no longer trusts the United States, even if a Democrat replaces trump there's no guarantee that things won't go back to the way they are now in four years time. That is not an ally that can be relied upon.

The wild thing is that republicans are conservative and democrats are centrists.

By "both sides," people seem to mean right and middle.

Can we have an actual left?

But one side wants to give you health care

Well, part of one side. There are Dem politicians who either don't support M4A or only support it when it clearly has no chance of succeeding and thus their support will be irrelevant, dropping that support when it starts mattering.

There's no doubt there are bad apples on democratic party, but the notion that they are one unified block is absolutely wrong.

We essentially have two parties: Republicans and party representing everyone else.

For example check Blue Dogs caucus, those are essentially Republicans that don't line trump. So called New Democrats are calling themselves centrists. In American politics what's center is called right everywhere else.

This is why Democrats often fight as aggressive as we would like them too, because they need to find compromises between themselves. Want Democrats that fight for people, vote in primaries and local election and install progressives. There's a shift, but we need a bigger one.

One side is:

• raping children
• murdering US citizens
• dismantling the healthcare system without the required approval
• bragging about tampering with voting machines
• starting trade wars and
• starting actual wars.

The other side, for all their faults, are not doing all that.

Yeah the important thing is you do something to actually try and help improve the situation on the ground.

The Overton window has been shifting to the right for 60 years because the "opposition" party keeps looking to court right wing votes and offers no challenge to capitalism. The Democrat party wasn't even in full support of gay marriage until like 2012.

The "vote for the lesser evil, do nothing else, and never demand the party move left" option has seen the Overton window shift right consistently, yet here we are, hearing the same things again from the same people and you're saying actually the opposite of this strategy will happen now for some reason.

People voted for "hope and change" in 2008 and got Barrack Obama and a Heritage Foundation health care reform. Then the reaction brought Trump.

Vote in more milquetoast liberals, and don't be shocked when worse fascists start gaining ground because your candidates fail to even address the fundamental problem (capitalism), much less tackle it.

Exactly. People can't just fix everything in one go. And having a "left" majority will at least give a chance to shift the narrative.

Makes you wonder what percentage of them are foreign adversaries trying to weaken the US (and its allies) - or simply help fascism - by helping the GOP.

Sure, they all say they simply want the US to stop being fascist, but telling people not to vote for Democrats in the General definitely isn't helping that.

Same people, different disguise, specially on Lemmy.

Bus stop metaphor. Even if we cant take a train directly where we need to get to, at least we can take a bus in the correct direction.

This assumes there is a bus going in the correct direction instead of two buses both going in the wrong direction at different speeds.

Netanyahu's party won.