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[–] 68 points 1 week ago* (32 children)

Some Americans will justify not voting by using Palestine as an example. Well, yeah, your dems suck too but it's not a reason to not take action. Voting is easy enough, and at least it really works. Fantasizing about the Revolution won't do shit.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 week ago

    I remember back in the 2010s the argument for not cracking down on the far right in the USA was that that would trigger a civil war. We saw on J6 how many would show up to fight on their side. They were all there. Now, unfortunately they control the military, so it's much harder.

    Coward liberals always paving the road for the fascists that come after them.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Also voting is a way to shift the Overton window. If the left wing party has a thumping majority, those in the party with more radical views (like being against genocide /s) actually have room to manoeuvre and pressure their leader, or even to split off and form their own party.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 week ago* (4 children)

    The Overton window has been shifting to the right for 60 years because the "opposition" party keeps looking to court right wing votes and offers no challenge to capitalism. The Democrat party wasn't even in full support of gay marriage until like 2012.

    The "vote for the lesser evil, do nothing else, and never demand the party move left" option has seen the Overton window shift right consistently, yet here we are, hearing the same things again from the same people and you're saying actually the opposite of this strategy will happen now for some reason.

    People voted for "hope and change" in 2008 and got Barrack Obama and a Heritage Foundation health care reform. Then the reaction brought Trump.

    Vote in more milquetoast liberals, and don't be shocked when worse fascists start gaining ground because your candidates fail to even address the fundamental problem (capitalism), much less tackle it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago*

    many of them became rich, or wealthy if they voted with the gop on many things, they arnt going to let that go. thats why people have a hunch that closed door deals they often meet with mitch who was majority leader most of the time.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    I’m getting people posting in trans communities telling me not to vote for democrats.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 week ago* (7 children)

    Makes you wonder what percentage of them are foreign adversaries trying to weaken the US (and its allies) - or simply help fascism - by helping the GOP.

    Sure, they all say they simply want the US to stop being fascist, but telling people not to vote for Democrats in the General definitely isn't helping that.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Ukraine should bomb another Yandex datacenter.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Won't help, they don't really have an incentive to host their shit on Yandex anymore. Even if there was anything in the first place, I've yet to find a good proof of bot activity being disrupted during those bombings. Don't get me wrong, it would be a very good story, but SWEs in Russia can be pretty competent.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    Maybe destroying a datacenter used by VK would help disrupt the spread of propaganda inside Russia.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    VK has its own infra in Mail.Ru datacenters. And because they've been serving the government in a larger extent (VK is basically your direct line to FSB), it's pretty strange that Yandex was targeted instead.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    This is really why I keep commenting. I'm usually lurking on any platform but it's so easy to manipulate the narrative with bots, I feel like I have to voice those OBVIOUS things out.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Bus stop metaphor. Even if we cant take a train directly where we need to get to, at least we can take a bus in the correct direction.

    Best mental description ever. Even self described republicans can surely grasp this idea to be rid of what we have now. I'm heading over to the Library this afternoon to vote early :) ive never voted a straight ticket before. Sort of excited.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Bus stop metaphor. Even if we cant take a train directly where we need to get to, at least we can take a bus in the correct direction.

    This assumes there is a bus going in the correct direction instead of two buses both going in the wrong direction at different speeds.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    In the absolute worst case, the Dems are equally as bad as the GOP on Palestine (though I haven't seen many Democrats support building Trump resorts over the rubble).

    In that worst case, then Palestine isn't on the ballot, and you shouldn't base your vote on it, but on everything else happening. The lesser of 2 evils isn't an exciting vote, but it is, in fact, a lesser evil and preferable to the GOP.

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  • [+] -13 points 1 week ago* (7 children)

    No, in the absolute best case, Dems will be even worse than Republicans so far. But still less bad then what Republicans would become if they got another term. So yes, vote for them, if it makes sense in your state. Just keep your expectations in check.

    Here's the proof: (1) US capitalism at it's current stage of decline absolutely needs fascism to survive. Profit rates are just too low, any semblance of democracy would be used by the people to prevent pushing real wages even lower, but that's needed for the engine of the dying economy to sputter on. The empire is dying, no way around it. Like every single time fascism has occurred in history, it will rise this time too, to save capitalism in crisis.

    (2) The Democrats are a capitalist party.

    (3) Ergo, the Democrats will urgently push to hasten the march towards fascism.

    This is not even a prediction, just an observation, a simple statement of fact. You can't reform your way out of the cold, mathematical laws of economics.

    Revolution is not a "fantasy", it's literally the only viable alternative to unimaginable suffering. Voting for Democrats can only serve to buy time to organize for real change. In the coming necessary struggle, Dems are the on the same side as Republicans and on the opposite side of humanity and life on earth.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Dude, are you for real? Touch some grass, not everything in life is capitalism.

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