I don't know how some people stay on [big social media] while constantly hating being on [big social media].

Two men are talking. One says "I hate social media now. Its all ads and ragebait." The second man says "why not the fediverse? Its community ran and not focused on engagement metrics so its..." The first man cuts him off, "Nah, I'm done signing up for any social media. Everything I've been on is just to toxic." Then the man continues to doomscroll on social media.

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[–] 57 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I was very frustrated at everyone getting mad at twitter, and then going to bluesky instead of mastodon.

At a certain point, once everyone is there everyone else has to go there.

I will say fedi right now has a pretty good vibe. Some of the more negative/angry people have left and its been a chill little community lately.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    At least with bluesky you can bridge to the fediverse and vice versa. So you can keep it comfy on the fediverse

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Yeah I do that on my personal gotosocial instance. Works well actually.

    I wish there was a really lightweight version of piefed/lemmy that can work on a tiny pi instance like my gotosocial. But this instance is good too.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    Pick one:

    1. Complicated to selfhost so the mayority uses the main server
    2. Simple to selfhost, hosted by many in their cabinet, total win; copyparty, syncthing, navidrome, immich, gotosocial, haven, radicale, gancio
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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    The truth is, it’s the most balanced people who left. Most people who remain are deep in the echo chamber, which is why it seems more chill: everyone agrees with you and the ones with realistic opinions have left.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Would you describe yourself as a balanced person? Have you made many postive comments on here to balance out all of your negative ones?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Balanced compared to most lemmy users, yes, though perhaps less than the average person. If you feel balanced on lemmy, then you are very much an extremist.

    My comments seem negative because I only comment on controversial topics, and since I don’t parrot the common opinion around here, it gives them a negative tone. I never bother with the “I agree” comments like everyone loves so much, even when I do agree, because they do not incite discussion.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Maybe different for different people, but I don't mind disagreement if it's civilized. But some people come in with a ton of snark, condescension and rage, and then when it's revealed that they don't actually know what they're talking about they double down, of course. I've started just blocking when I see the initial symptoms now.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

    In what fucking dream world isn't fediverse filled with ragebait?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

    The comic leaves out the whole "joining the right server and communities for you" part. If nobody tells you before joining, then you see a bunch of horrible stuff. If someone does tell you before joining, then it's a daunting prospect.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    You'll also need to block a bunch of people since individual instance blocks don't block the people from the instances.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Which really ought to be a feature, IMO. And/or filter lists to which one could subscribe.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    Yes. Filter lists to subscribe to would be a big help to new users.

    Especially if we could generate a default one that just includes some kind of median block/filter set generated from previous choices across users on the current instance.

    Then a new user could just make one early choice: "Automatically filter unpopular content" or "see everything".

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    And if you just go to the "right server and communities" you get isolated in echo chambers.

    Damned if you do...

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    You: I don't want to see Rage Bait and stupid engagement bait shit on Lemmy!

    Also you: I don't want to isolate myself to only content I want to see!

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

    You: [ragebait]

    Also you: [stupid engagement bait shit]

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    You don't know what any of those terms mean, do you?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    No, I'm just queer and Poly.

    The right doesn't like that I have multiple relationships and am sexually attracted to all genders.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    I don't see any rage bait on Lemmy..

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  • [–] 72 points 2 weeks ago (23 children)

    Most people I talk to pretend like it's too complex. They're upset about a single company controlling their social media, but scared about not having that.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

    I gave up trying once I realized the large majority of humans today dont know what a filepath is.

    I'll retreat to my cave now.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    dont know what a filepath is.

    I have a friend who teaches a highschool computer elective and lesson 01 is Folders, creating them, what they are, etc.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Thank goodness. But shouldnt that be elementary? I was doing that when I was like...6...and there was no internet.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    You'd think. But we are admittedly engaging in some boomer ass thinking right now.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    I don't think so. Tech illiteracy is at an all time high and it affects everyone's life a drastic amount. This isnt driving manual or writing cursive. Its terrifying how bad people are with tech and it allows for corpos to sow more dissent and misinformation and move us to knowledge as a service with fascism.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

    I mean knowing what something is and using it can be 2 different things. Most people can save things to their computers or make a folder. They just have no reason to know the technical term or how the computer saves it behind the scenes, if you told them they'd likely remember.

    Always hated the if someone doesn't know a specialized word in your profession or hobby they're dumb mentality

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    While that is true and important to mention, im also getting reports from teachers saying a lot of the kids, even the older ones, also dont even know of the concept of a file. An image is just an image that can be dragged between apps. A folder is for apps. Everythings an app!

    Been some time since i was substitute, so maybe the claims are a bit exaggerated. Could be the commenter was referring to this trend?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    File path is a specialized term? Ctrl+f is specialized ? This has existed for over 25 years. Its scary people dont know absolute basics.

    It'd be something else if it wasnt a thing that encompasses every aspect of our lives 24/7 every single day of our lives. Dont you think people should be knowledgeable about it ? Ive always been of the mind I should be educated about important things like that and have been learning my entire life so I know things that matter.

    Its also easier than its ever been. This isnt changing a flat tire or some physical thing people are more scared to learn. This is veeeery easy reading and videos to educate yourself on how a staple aspect of your life functions.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago

    reddit/all lets you filter out 100 subreddits but it's impossible to filter out commercial ads. you can filter out nfl, but then there are 100 others like nflv2, nflmemes, afcwestcoast, or some other different iteration. same for baseball. mlb, baseballmemes, newyorkyankees, etc. and this is what is perceivable. there's just so much junk on that site now. it's just like watching tv: boring and uninspired.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    it is significantly harder to find the "right" instance if you want to actually see varied content and not just leftyslop and tech.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    With federation, you shouldn't need to consider that, browse, and participate with remote instances freely. Unless what you want to see is largely defederated, in which case, you should probably think about why it's against the social contract of so many instances.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    There is no right instance for that, because the whole fediverse doesnt have that many users, and of those, a great many post that kind of stuff. It's not my cup of tea either (at least not to such a great degree, without a community for most of my hobbies) but I'm OK enough with it to stay for the shitposts and to hope it grows (but not too much!)

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  • [–] 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

    Yard Sale. People stay in big places, because it gives them access to a wider pool of people. Veritasium also replicated this theory.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Yeah this is pretty much the only reason I still use any social media like YouTube, Facebook, and Reddit.

    YouTube cause I like the long form video essays (yes I know Nebula exists, but I am cheap).

    Reddit for the niche communities that aren’t really popular here (Lemmy is my shitpost haven though).

    Facebook only exists for me because of Facebook Marketplace and literally no other reason.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    Also, for comedy, YouTube is just about the only thing outside of Dropout. Patron is picking up speed lately, but they still use YouTube often for the actual videos playing, plus of course only subscribing to 4 channels is already at least 20€ per month.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    I doomscroll on the Fediverse, thank you very much.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Well, Lemmy on Voyager is just doom scrolling and toxic with less content. I must be missing something if it is otherwise.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    The trouble is, there's a bunch of awful people on the fediverse too.

    I have absolutely no appetite for requiring ID to use social media, but the anonymity in any social media platform, regardless of its popularity, brings out the worst in some people.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    More folks need to get comfortable with the block button. I have a list of users blocked for being shitty, but there sometimes seems to be this weird mentality that blocking users instead of debating them is weak or something.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 22 points 2 weeks ago (25 children)

    Fedi does suck in your not into tech or leftist politics. Those are where the bulk of the content comes from. The memes can be funny sometimes but the lack of video clips really holds it back. People love short video clips but they're expensive to host. Catbox.moe is a good solution but you're still pretty restricted in the size of clips you can upload.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    tech or leftist politics

    because that's what the public that uses it likes.

    bluesky was probably worse before the migration. more people = more content.

    i do like its left bias and wish we keep it though. breath or fresh air from fascist-owned social media.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    pro russian imperialism is not "left bias"

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    just because you believe in russian scare propaganda doesn't mean we should too.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    People love short video clips but they’re expensive to host

    Because we all have the attention span of a dog. In some, that's just unmanaged ADHD. In others, it's because it's our lovable movies in short formats so we're trained 🤤

    To help with attention span, read some long form fiction for once. Any kind, just read something over 80 pages. Libraries are free.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

    If you're not into leftist politics, I don't really want you on fedi to begin with.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    That makes an echo chamber. I care more about people's ability to have adult conversations than I do about their specific politics, but it seems like that criteria eliminates the overwhelming majority of modern conservatives from consideration.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

    Right so do you see how people that don't have The Correct Opinion would view this as toxic.

    I get it. We all hate the right here. You don't need to lecture me on that. My point is that toxicity mostly emerges from people hating people that don't have identical opinions as them. Slightly to the right = nazi. Slightly to the left = tankie.

    Just chill my guy

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

    You wouldn’t understand. You’re not an otter.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    People are downvoting you but fwiw I think it was an ok joke

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

    There are a wide range of conservative opinions that I don’t find problematic. Certainly some are but same can be said for any party. I’m not an “enlightened centrist” guy, certainly the American Republicans/Maga are fucking awful. But that is just one manifestation of a range of policies.

    If you can’t differentiate someone that is simply conservative vs someone who is full throated MAGA then that’s more of a political literacy issue YOU have. Someone isn’t evil simply for wanting reduced taxes or less immigration or reduced “sexual positivity”. There are ethical forms of these policies.

    And because it’s mandatory on a forum based platform - no, I’m not conservative. Im further left than most of you. I’m just also less emotionally charged.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Hmmm you might be an otter after all… in which case you’re a liar, and not to be trusted. And therefore not an otter, because we are honorable and trustworthy. Which means you’re not a liar after all.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    The Left always eats its own.

    You can agree 99.98% with the hivemind, but then be only a lesser form of vegetarian eater but not fully vegan and...

    OFF WITH THEIR HEAD

    I used to be more leftist than I am now actually - discourse with leftist trolls has made me realize that much of the rhetoric is childish thinking (not all - I suspect there's far more to my journey, but some of the talking points definitely are).

    A lot of people treat leftist beliefs like rightist ones, where the goal seems to be to become holier than thou and look down upon anyone who has not read the latest in an absolutely endless array of books.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yeah, it's really discouraging. We could do so many great things if we could work together. That's why they want us all fighting amongst ourselves. I'd be totally open to tankies if they were open to "liberals" (anyone who doesn't believe murder solves everything).

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Ah but then they wouldn't be "tankies" - that term basically (even if not technically) meaning those who deny the reality of events such as the Tiannamen Square Massacre, instead preferring "alternative facts" like how poor Russia was "forced" into invading Ukraine - won't someone think of the poor genocidal nations of the earth, who just want the freedom to be left in peace, in order to murder everyone when they feel like it! You all are such big meanie weanie-faces, not acknowledging the superiority of North Korea!? Why, if you would just read this book... (10 pages later) then you would willingly guillotine yourself, for the glory of mudder Russia the whole world!

    Maybe I'll switch to become MAGA, just out of spite?

    (we Arch users use /s-udo btw)

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