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Application fees? For renting? Man America is cooked.
Don't forget the downpayment and the security deposit and first and last months rent. Oh and if you break the lease you have to pay 4 months rent or the remainder of the rental period, whichever is higher
Usually there's some way around that though? Like mailing checks or something.
I had a landlord that would let you mail checks to get around it. But the leasing docs explicitly stated there was a 6% fee for every day rent was late and rent wasn't considered received until the check cleared.
So we had to mail the check like 2 weeks in advance in case it didn't arrive quickly enough and then sometimes he'd deposit it 1-2 after receipt and then it'd be a nail biter if it fully cleared in the 24-72 hours necessary for him not to consider it "late".
I hate that guy and he's like 90 now and still not dead despite cancer and two heart attacks.
That's fucked bro. Certified mail for sure.
As far as the clearing thing that just sounds straight up illegal.
But certified mail also costs money so now you're back to the same concept as the 3% fee
I mean if your rent is $500USD (which is stupidly low, in the US I don't think this exists even in the middle of nowhere) then 3% is $15
Certified mail is around $6
Plus you're not rewarding the landlord/payment processor for their stupid fees.
If your rent is more realistic like $1500 then 3% is $45. No contest.
Add $75 for each pet if allowed! My buddy was apartment hunting recently and was given a rental agreement that said he would have a deductible on repairs and would have to cover anything over $250. The landlord was just looking to scam and sue someone for repairs he had to do to keep up to code. America's cooked indeed.
Here it’s just a months rent for security deposit and you pay as normal in a rolling monthly contract. The deposit needs to be held in an independent thingie too so they can’t keep it unlawfully.
I was gonna say that in my experience the "security deposit" should just be considered money spent. Generally, if my landlords could find any reason to, they'd keep the whole thing. If they couldn't, they'd make one up.
I had A landlord who was pretty chill, most apartments in the area had monthly or 2-weekly cleaning checks, but we only had one in the several years I lived there. We went above and beyond to show our appreciation for the relative lenience
We came back after the cleaning check, and the kitchen floor was covered in a sticky film. Then we got a cleaning fee charge. Turns out, the landlord hired someone to do the cleaning check, and offered to pay the same person to clean the apartment if we failed. So they inspected a spotless apartment, told the landlord we failed, mopped the floor with undiluted Fabulouso, and called it a day
Our landlord refunded the cleaning fee, but if they hadn't I doubt there's anything we could have done.
First and last month can make sense sometimes, so laws can go "the tenant did pay the last month so you can't suddenly evict them, they still get to live until the month ends because they did paid for it"
"I have passive income" is literally just "I run online scams".
This is no different from people in places like india doing phone call scams.
Not to be a capitalist pig but even under capitalism in the USA that is just fraud.
Most people have no ability or funds for recourse and justice. It's just going to be a SOL moment.
Americans be like "we're the free-est nation in the world!" then do shit like pay application fees
What if I could earn a passive income by scamming scammers? It would be morally correct?
Yes but they have the funds and connections to absolutely nail you to a cross.
If they can get enough of them before getting caught it could balance itself out though
Lmaooo Dudes, US people have no business making fun of communist if they do things like this. What do you mean you pay for an application for rent a space to living for????
We also sometimes have to pay "pet rent", and no this does not cover pet damages.
No fucking way this has to be a joke
My cat costs me $30 per month in pet rent. And she still has the gall to lay around and complain like she pays the rent.
My cat cost my insurance company whatever they paid my doctor to write a note to tell my landlord I wouldn’t be paying a pet deposit equal to a months rent (non-refundable) and pet rent.
She seemed annoyed by the whole thing but unsurprised. Apparently part of her job is to write the landlords fuck you notes.
How does your doctor have a say in your rent agreement?
Writing a note saying this little guy is an emotional support little guy and therefore is covered by being an aspect of why you're alive or something.
You also have to prove you make 2x rent, sometimes 3x rent in order to actually qualify for an apartment (alot of us create fake paystubs for this) :)
We also will have a deposit that is usually 2-3x rent that we are supposed to get back when we move out. However every time this happens the landlords conveniently find damage to the property that didn't exist the day you moved out so you don't ever get that money back (or if you do, you only get 25-50% of it). :)
At the place I just moved out of, there was a roach infestation that the landlords refused to hire a pro to take care of that got entirely out of hand. They are holding my deposit for this. :)
You also aren't allowed to have anyone stay over longer than 3 days if they aren't on the lease without prior approval from the landlord. :)
Edit: Sometimes people have to get renters insurance too. :)
3x the rent as a revenue and 3 month deposit is also standard in Switzerland. However, the deposit is put in a special account and the bank releases it when you move out. It is not that easy for the landlord to get a part of it. About the rent not exceeding one third of the revenue, it's of course not always easy to do, but if you exceeded it, you would risk having other financial problems which wouldn't be good for you neither.
God I love being so free though 🦅
Sorry that's an additional $20 service fee for loving something. Them the rules.
Not a joke. I suspect the creation of pet rent contributed to the dilution of the concept of service animals (people insisting that Rex the psychotic chihuahua is an emotional support animal).
More apartments in the US have it than not nowadays. It's anywhere from 50-100 a month.
These guys are saying $50-100 but I have seen $200 per month on a $1800 per month apartment. It's no joke.
The real fun is having to pay extra on an application because you have a pet, then getting to pay an additional pet rent monthly. Also it's sometimes per pet, literally trying to treat them like bonus tenants.
Americans are fine with it. Extremely comfortable.
If they weren’t, they would do something about it.
I did 97 meth deals ($45 each).
That's $4365 in passive income.
I don't even have any meth and just gave them sugar crystals.
Virtue signaling is a very interesting primate trait. From lying about where you were last night to wearing clothing in the first place, manipulating your status is uniquely human. If dolphins or octopuses made a civilization, this would be unlikely to emerge.
Ever seen Orcas wearing salmon hats?
Hierarchical systems are perfectly normal in social systems. Not in the rigid way your manosphere nutters use it, but it's still a thing!
Oo, good point. Hierarchy is everywhere in nature, obviously. I was referencing manipulating status.
Well, there's a philosophical point that's worthy of exploring.
Is human activity, including manipulation, a result of nature or in conflict with it?
Biology is so neat! I love animals. You should check out the velvet worm and social structures. Just fascinating that complex (and evidence suggests even more complex) social behavior arises from a ridiculously different neutral structure and evolutionary lineage. As for philosophy, may I point you to egalitarianism as the ultimate balance with the fact that mitochondria symbiosis may have started with predation. The host cell failed to digest it (maybe), and mitochondria, like your gut biome, was like, "yeah, this is chill, too."
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