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[–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I really hope this becomes the norm in Europe.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    Everywhere.. But in practice, it's been easy to not use MS Office for most people for ages. I've been using google docs and Libreoffice for years.

    The real challenge has been Adobe honestly

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    [–] 166 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

    USA just switched off starlink in Ukraine. They blocked Microsoft accounts and visa cards from ICC members. You can't rely on USA tech. It's got a killswitch and a madman ready to push the button.

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  • [–] 84 points 3 weeks ago* (15 children)

    And you americans, go out there and vote Democrat, you can do politics in third parties later if you have a country left after the election.

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  • [+] -24 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    Democrats there are of the same capital class though.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

    It's true, but try this:

    • defeat the bigger evil first
    • then defeat the smaller evil
    • ???
    • communism (or whatever it is you want)
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  • [–] -5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Wonder why 10 upvotes for you and negative 20 for me when we mean the same thing 😰

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I agree that democrats (as they exist now) are a bad party. However, the US system is broken in a way that disadvantages third parties. If you vote for a 3rd party that is left of the Democrats (or don't vote at all), you split the vote and Trump wins again. I think the US is in a bind, but the best way out is to vote Dem and turf corporate/zionist Dems like Schumer in the primaries. It will take time, but it will work.

    Some people on Lemmy have been using "both parties bad" rhetoric to discourage people from voting for the Democrats, which only benefits Trump and his gang. Your post probably got associated with that rhetorical strategy.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    You are not wrong but they are the lesser evil. I mean either try to change the system or burn it down. Doesn't seem lime America is anywhere near a revolution so the only thing to do is vote the furthest left you can.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    Diversification helps here. Being able to switch service providers easy and quickly is best for users.

    At the moment it's good for Europeans to focus on domestic services, but in the long run our laws and governments may also turn more oppressive, so having many different reliable alternatives is the recipe for a free and empowered society.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Iris2 can't go online early enough. There is Govsatcom now at least, as a crutch, to bridge the time until the basic Iris2 service can begin in 2030.

    Just imagine Europe would have listened to the strong SpaceX fan crowd that called Ariane 6 a waste of money, because it costs some millions more per launch.

    And can you remember the storm against Galileo when the crowd called it an epic waste of money (the domestic Putin front does to this day for mysterious reasons), when already have the US military run GPS?

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  • [–] 106 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Now if they also directed the license cost savings back toward funding their newly chosen oss projects, we'd be golden.

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  • [–] 71 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    I agree. Digital sovereignty is important for the EU. The less we are in the pocket of the US the better.

    Digital anarchy is important for the regular people. The more you take technology in your own hands, the less you are at the whims of centralised services.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    First time I have seen "digital anarchy" and I love it. Except it sounds like a punk-techno band. Lol.

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  • [–] 48 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

    Microslop is a security risk. An OS with a backdoor isn't useful for anything but gaming.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Why would you want a backdoor on the OS of your gaming machine?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago

    Some anticheat systems require a backdoor. If those are games you want to play, you have to submit to it. Personally I see it as a reason to avoid those games, but if you really want to play them, you may not have a choice. Apart from pressuring the publisher to support saner anticheat and Linux.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    You don't need no windows for no gaming, this isn't 2015 jesus

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I know, but I still do classes and they require you use garbage software. Eventually I'll get it sorted out.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    It might be worth checking if there's really no alternative. I intend to do that for my son; his school requires Windows, but he's starting to get increasingly annoyed by Windows (his laptop has Win11) so I want to check with the school why exactly Windows is so essential. Presumably, most is Web, so will work just fine on Linux. Specific software may have a Linux version, run fine on Wine, or have an open source alternative.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    I know and for the most part that's how it is. Some of the classes still want to use Respond-ass. Which I just end up going to the school library for. If I have to use Win11, I will just run a VM. That OS has been a nightmare.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Strange question perhaps -- but is open source/linux supported tax filing software available where you are?

    I haven't found any that run reliably outside of Microsoft so far in Canada -- tend to use a windows vm specifically for it, but it's an example of software outside of gaming that's pretty handy, and not typically easy to get / trust on linux yet as far as I'm aware.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    I would assume your tax system works differently. I wanted to move to Canada since I have skills to contribute. But I live the greatest country on the earth, the U Ass of A (/s borat joke.)

    Anyway, there is a simple free option for those that make under a certain amount; most people have w2 forms so those are pretty much automated; as in your employer already submitted them. But then comes in tax exemptions.

    So then it gets more complicated because you don't want to be paying the same tax in multiple ways. For instance, you pay a local tax and then pay a federal tax on your income. I don't have an issue with taxes going to the right place, which is often not the case here.

    I always pay the taxes whenever I'm in other countries even though I could get an exemption but I don't think that's right. I get the privilege of going somewhere then I should pay what everyone else pays and besides you don't have to tip -_-

    So taxes are complicated here if you're outside of the norm. The amount of different forms I had to file before I quit my latest job was a job in itself, add in a death in the family and it's even more complicated. Like it took months, with a delay, to sort out all off this. And it sucks, if you don't do it right you end up with everything taken away.

    Like you, I'm interested in some open source software.

    I'm thinking that this step in life(quitting what I was doing) is a good choice because I'm tired. Yeah I can charge 100+ an hour but doing the math for the year, I really should work at a grocery store.

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  • [–] 43 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    It's always nice to see Microsoft get kicked in the balls.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Especially after they lobbied/bribed the ISO committee into approving the broken and closed-source OOXML as if it was an open standard

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  • [–] 34 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    I wonder if the tech companies will realize their bending to Trump is going to shoot them in the ass

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    No, it is not. They still get billions of American taxpayer money

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    They're going to lose the rest of the world, but to Trump and many of his supporters, the rest of the world doesn't matter and barely exists. Except for Russia which Trump seems to love somehow.

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    They should consider LibreOffice if they don’t need cloud features.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    Thing is, cloud features are very good for being productivity. And also for minimising mistakes, because you dont have multiple copies.

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  • [–] 40 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Long before clouds was a thing we had servers and local networks and shared drives. We still have servers and private vpns to connect to them to access shard drives.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    Sure, and maybe even some kind of suvversion system could lock one user out while the other is doing work, to avoid the kinds of conflicts that we're talking about here.

    All of that is a hard sell versus the experience of dropping into a document and seeing three cursors all entering data collaboratively, a la Google Sheets.

    And I'm writing this to someone that's trying to make myself at home using Grid raft, the vibecoded AI Slop Excel. If I had to share documents mid-production with anyone else at all, I would need something cloud-based.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    My org has been trying to shut off "the zed drive" (network mount) for like a decade and staff still hate Onedrive. If it was actually better, why would staff resist using it so much?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I 100% agree. But it didnt work like it does today.

    You could not collab, because the software wasnt build to take advantage of shared drives, which will bring back all the following issues as before.

    Best case is open source software with the same funtionality as Docs or Word, but you can hook it up to any servers at setup.

    Build a Wireguard VPN inside the programs for making it just as easy for the masses to use them.

    I dont want the "cloud". I just want the same productivity.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    There use to schemes to provide flexible locking to allow multiple people to edit documents located on the same local network. Never liked it nuch but others did. I expect that it is possible to develop and achieve shared documents and concurrent editing etc without Google. Maybe dust off old concepts etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Yeah, it's very possible! And I firmly believe that you would need to bring these features for broad adoption.

    It would require a server and open source software. You dont need anything crazy for it.

    Most of the software already exists. You only need to put them together.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    They can consider LibreOffice if they need cloud features, with collabora and nextcloud.

    It's way more complicated to deploy rather than just paying $60/user/month for Microsoft 365 E5, but nextcloud and collabora sell commerciale support, others sell managed instances, Germany is selling opendesk as a saas, and al on

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Have you ever had a job where everyone relies on local spreadsheets?

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Kudos to the Netherlands, the Oranje made the correct decision.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Oh my God! How are they going to work without MS Teams?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago

    Ther's only two things I hate in this world, people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the... no, wait! I love the Dutch!

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    GVD JA!!!!!

    Laat ze maaris iets zien noorderburen! Hup holland hup!

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    One of those changes that requires and entire generation of workers to retire.. boomers

    Until that happens, they stand in the way of change. After they are put out to pasture, change occurs at a normal pace, according to logic and reason, as it always should. Even in normal times.

    I expect to see a lot of shifts in things as the boomers finally begin to die off. Medical advances are extending their lives to freakish extremes, but so far not one of them has proven to be immortal. .

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    I worked at a health company as a manager and was told not to electronize records keeping because they couldn’t afford to hire computer literate people for the grunt work. I was told to use whiteboards and laminated printouts.

    Get me out of this fucking shithole USA…

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    I don't think it's the boomers holding us back. It's the lack of better alternatives to the junk systems we have today. We will see institutions switching from commercial crap to open source copies of that commercial crap. As if we're still living in the paper world. The users are just the victims.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Its not bomers most people are not good at tech. I've been to may training course and the amount of pwole who can't set an IP address on a laptop is insane and this is INA tech agecent field.

    Most people don't know how a oc works and just know I click this icon for this and that one for that.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    …and the Dutch

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    As someone whose job just switched to D365.. It's been a nightmare.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago

    The detail that stands out to me is that this was the tax authority specifically — the institution with the most sensitive possible data trove deciding the sovereignty question matters more than the migration roadmap. That's a different calculus than a regular ministry would make.

    The DPA precedent probably weighed in too. The Dutch data protection authority has been aggressive on exactly this (the Schrems II follow-throughs, the earlier government guidance against US cloud for personal data). Once your regulator has signaled the position, staying the course turns a technical decision into a legal exposure.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago

    Interesting that the reasoning is reportedly about control and exit costs, not just price. That matches what I keep hearing from people who run large deployments: the lock-in tax shows up years later, when you discover your workflows, integrations, and data shapes have all quietly molded themselves around one vendor's APIs. A tax authority is one of the few orgs with the patience and staff to actually pull off a sovereign-stack migration, so this will be a useful data point either way. Hope someone documents the migration honestly, because the failure modes would be more instructive than the press release.

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