Yeah I'm old enough to remember how exciting it was when anti-skip CD players came out...
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Not able to upload images anymore for some reason, but I love the Sandisk Clip Sport for this.
The clip broke off mine the very first time I used it :(
I had the one later generation of iPod nano that was a little square touch screen with a clip. That thing was great, I could clip it onto my clothing anywhere and go for a run and it wouldn't move. I miss the days of iPod nanos and classics.
I do like this form factor, and have had some offbrand ones, but the color LCD with backlight drains the battery incredibly fast. The monochrome LCD on a Creative basically uses no energy and is perfectly visible out in the bright sun, even when fast forwarding through podcasts or audiobooks. Still, I'll take the physical buttons over a touchscreen that can barely work once I start sweating. Also the physical buttons let me actually CONTROL it while I'm running while still paying attention to where I'm going - no need to take my eyes off anything.
I didn’t notice that the model in the link has color LCD! I have an older model which is monochrome and looks slightly different though the size and shape are the same. It has lasted for years and I’m very pleased with the battery life. Don’t think it is manufactured anymore but there might be used ones sold online or off brand models as you said. Agree that buttons > touchscreen during physical activity.
I still have my screenless Creative nomad muvo, and really wanted the one with the screen back then
From the era just after, the Bluetooth audio player + FM radio Sony Ericsson MW600 was absolutely brilliant with a touch sensor along the side for volume and buttons for media controls, and built in selection menu for what to connect to
This seems to be the new version of the clip by sandisk. You would want light but also be able to download a podcast on it and this is always a lot of fiddling with a bare bones thing like that.
So annoying, this problem had been solved long ago and now I need an expensive watch or something to get the experience that an iPod had more than 10 years ago.
I'm getting a permission denied error lmao
"You do not have permission to access this document."
Huh, maybe it’s region restricted? This sometimes happens to me depending on which VPN server I’m using. But searching for “Sandisk Clip Sport” will turn up the right image :)
I’ve been getting a “problem uploading image” error anytime I try to post one from my device which only started recently.
People look at me weird when I tell them I have a dedicated MP3 player instead of using my phone.
No, I don't want to run down my phone battery for music. Yes, I want a device I can leave sitting on the counter playing music that isn't my phone I have to keep walking over to check.
That being said, SO many of the dedicated MP3 players out there are TRAAAAAAAAAAASH. My last one's 3.5mm jack broke after a couple years. My new one's SD card slot broke after 4 months. I guess the best method is just buying the cheapest one so when it breaks you don't feel too bad about it. They're all made by Asian companies that have no website or contact numbers or any kind of presence at all other than the Amazon page they're selling their garbage on.
Ugh, I bought one that rythmicaly squeaked when you used decent headphones.
You might as well just buy a cheap Android phone to use as a music player. A number of the MP3 players out there are pretty much that anyways, except they actually delete the cellular modem.
The cheap phones are also more likely to have a 3.5mm jack and an SD card slot too.
Yeah I've considered that option. My last few MP3 players really have basically been phones. Touch screen. Android. 3.5mm and SD slot. Just without the cellular. It's the cheapness that's the problem. And that cheapness could still be an issue if I bought a cheap actual smartphone.
To be clear though, the last one I bought was $90-100. So not cheap cheap. I was eyeballing some that were as cheap as $50.
If it's just the battery that's the issue, put an inductive charger on the counter.
What do you have to keep walking over to check it?
Sounds like their problem is a phone addiction indeed
It's a phone addiction if someone texts me and I respond?
Why would I want to walk back into a room just to respond to a text when I could just have a dedicated music device that I start and then leave where it is and my phone can come with me?
I'm old enough that I didn't even have a mobile phone until I was in college and it definitely wasn't a smart phone. There is no phone addiction here. Personally, I hate the fucking things. I'm not even responding to you on one.
I mean, just buy a bluetooth speaker and leave that on your counter. Then you dont even need to walk back to change your music. Playing music doesn't drain your battery that much.
My husband got me a Creative Zen Micro for birthday and he had added in a bigger HDD and a new battery, it really works like a dream. It was a bit difficult to get around at first as it's from like 2004, but once I realised that I don't need to mess around with my XP PC to get it work, that Gnomad2 exists and works smoother, I'm all good. And the sound quality is so good, 320 kbps MP3. And the player fits into my headphone case!!
// Hubby wants to edit to say that HDD was replaced with SD card adapter + 16 Gb card (only Sanddisc card worked on it.)
Maan, I had Exactly that mp3 player, big and bulky and not especially better IMO. You slid out the whole part with the display to access the USB-A IIRC.
Same. I remember it generally held about 65 songs.
You did! I had the same one too and I liked that I never had to try to find the right chord. People hadn't really settled on micro USB for most things yet, so you still had 5 different flavors of usb cable floating around.
Seriously why is sending music to an iPhone from a Linux computer not directly possible in fucking 2026? I need to use VLC but its artist grouping sucks, it cannot assign the same track to multiple artists.
Do they not make those arm strap things to hold your mp3 player/phone on your upper arm anymore? I can control the music through my headphones (with voice or actual buttons) so the thing actually playing music doesn't matter all that much, personally.
They do, but they are INCREDIBLY uncomfortable. Running 10km with an unbalanced extra weight on one of my arms is torturous to me, to say nothing for the skin issues that I get from one of those bands holding the sweat against me the entire run.
Then, on top of that: slipping down the arm, tan lines, the bouncing of it, snagging it on things, how filthy and disgusting they quickly become, how they're still damp the next day getting ready for a second run...
Get a belt.
Oh, the bouncing is even worse there. I don't want a phone slamming into my hip repeatedly in the exact same place with every single step for over an hour. When you are running EVERYTHING that isn't locked down immediately resonates with your run, and if the weight isn't trivial it throws off your entire stride.
Am a runner. A tight fitting elastic belt holds everything close and tight and is comfy. Best solution ive found.
I'm sure a tight belt is a good solution for most people, but I'm going to run right into the same problem I have with armbands - tight elastic is going to trigger my eczema as soon as I start sweating.
And then even if a phone weighed absolutely nothing, I've still got to look at the screen to control it, which means either stopping motion or taking my attention off where I'm going, it's still got to be set to the highest brightness to see anything on the display, and as soon as I'm sweating, the touchscreen becomes almost useless anyway.
Do what works for you, but at the end of the day, I will never be satisfied trying to square peg a general purpose smartphone into the round hole of a run. Devices that were made specifically for this purpose and did it brilliantly used to exist, and don't now.
Your headphones can control the audio. Make a playlist and then its easy to skip.
Good luck 👍
Appreciate the perspective. I'll keep it in mind, but I generally use extremely cheap headphones with no controls because they don't last long for me anyway. Between the sweat and the rough use, they only last a few months, and the extra cost for controls is an ongoing loss for me.
If it comes down to it though, I'll keep your suggestions in mind.
A belt should hold that down so that it's not bouncing at all. It's worth finding one that's comfortable, and you can get used to it pretty quickly.
I didn't like mine touching my skin so I would tuck in my shirt while running with a belt.
For a bigger ergonomics/comfort challenge, you might even extend out to run lengths where you have to bring your own water. I switched between handheld water bottles and backpacks, depending on length of run and amount of water needed. At that point, the weight and size of a phone is pretty insignificant in comparison.
I don't run as much anymore, but these days I'm on a smartwatch plus wireless headphones. The watch doubles as a payment card too, in case I want to buy something while I'm out. Like candy fuel for my run.
I need a music player to replace AIMP. F-droid so far has been unable to provide me with a suitable drop-in replacement.
You have to look with a magnifying glass to find music players without touchscreen.
I won't lie here. I miss my Zune. Of course, it would be unusable garbage by this point.
RIP Zune, the best product Microsoft ever made. Mine died several years ago (the lock switch broke and it was a hassle to turn on/off) but I didn't have the heart to e-scrap it until recently.
Too lazy to check but do they make any portable music players that support opus and not just mp3?
My Nintendo DS (Moonshell) technically supports vorbis, but it struggles with its 4Mb of memory sometimes lol.
Running tights with tight-fitting pockets allow for comfortably carrying a phone when out on a run.
Half-tights for the summer season.
Yeah, I have a dozen pairs and they're so much better than holding or wearing an arm band or waistband or anything. Yes, I miss just rocking my silkies, but I'm also 40, and the compression shorts provide comfort that definitely is appreciated.
I have a Pixel 9a and I've got room to spare in the sleeve. When I drive to races the other leg sleeve is for my car key. I've considered a weapon of some sort when I run through wooded areas, because I fear being attacked by bears or wildlife, which will never happen where I live, but it still goes through my mind when I'm back there.
I honestly miss nothing about non-tight fitting running clothing. Zero chafing issues since I switched.
I think picking up cycling helped me dispel the last little bit of caring about what kind of clothing I wear. I suspect as a man ten years younger I may have had reservations about running tights.
Smartwatch?
Viable if I don't mind being locked into an ecosystem, and spending 6-7 times as much for something that is more or less guaranteed to lose software support long before it breaks.
With Garmin watches you can drag and drop files over the USB connection. All of mine have worked fine until the battery life degraded enough to not be useful anymore (5-6 years).
Finding a good pair of wireless headphones to go with the watch is another story unfortunately.
Still need the phone with you
I go on my little daily walks for my little mental health with a Fiio Echo Nano, works a treat and supports modern file formats and all
Counter point, the screen is easier navigation for choosing albums to play.
Now I feel like a god for still having my 256MB Nomad (which still works) and a 160GB iPod (which also works) during in a drawer just hanging out. I should probably take up running.
I have given up on portable musical electronic until I can find something that isn't defective, because my old source, best buy all became defective in 2021. All headphones I've ever gotten have been defective cheap garbage, made with miniscule little wires and cheap connections, as if it's unforeseeable the cord would get yanked.
It's not like these are all cheap products either, paying 30 dollars for headphones, I expect more than 50 cents worth of raw materials. I don't even know why we have forced labour factories overseas if we are paying more than we did back when we made our own quality products.
Wall Street is a fucking joke.
To be fair, part of this is that it’s been like 30 years since we made our own electronics
Most of the good audio gear is coming from niche channels direct from China. Moondrop and Fiio/Snowsky are probably the two biggest brands that you'd potentially find in your nearest city if there's an audio shop with a chi-fi bent.
Getting iems with removable cables also helps. I resoldered my Porta Pros with MMCX jacks so that I could replace the cable. It is shit that you can't get anything worth having unless you arguably know too much about the category, but it is out there.
My old Garmin watch doubles as a mp3 player, is quite nice for running since I don’t have to carry anything
You've definitely looked into this with different preferences than me, so apologies if you've already covered this - what about the Echo Mini/Nano? Admittedly the Nano battery life isn't great.
I had a nomad! it was... .aight...? like, it worked, and with the full size usb-A usb-stick form factor it was easy to load.
Same, I had that exact mp3 player and it still is the easiest to load music player I've owned. Just plug it into any computer and it shows up like a flash drive, drag and drop in your OS file manager. No software, no bullshit. Only downside is the storage space, mine was tiny. I think I could only get like 50 or so songs on it if I remember correctly.
I have this small Philips mp3 player with 4GB space I bought for 2 euros at a thrift store and it is gloriously offline!
I have a belt now that works surprisingly well. Still stupid to run with a heavy phone but it works.
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