I have once (1) woken up feeling completely refreshd and ready for the day without any chemical assistance and I still feel revolted thinking that that’s normal for some people.

The most fantastical part of dungeons and dragons is the 8h long rest that heals you up and gives you all your skills back.

I just started using that feature on some smart watches that wakes you up when you're in light sleep within 30 minutes of your alarm, and DANG--game changer, seriously. For the last few mornings I've woken up feeling better after six hours of sleep than on a lot of mornings where I've had a hard wakeup after nine.

EDIT: It's called "Smart Wake" on Android and Garmin watches, it's an app like "AutoWake" for Apple Watch, and it's "Smart Alarm" for Pebble.

If you have trouble sleeping but don't have an obvious medical causes for it, I highly recommend simply abstaining from caffeine entirely (sub for decaf) and try reading for an hour before bed, no phone usage. It's miraculous how much of a difference it makes. I still sometimes have caffeine as a treat on the weekends, but only before noon.

I get 8 hours sleep and consistently feel tired and awful every time. 10 hours, 6 hours, far better experiences.

When you finally get 8 hours of sleep and it genuinely starts making sense why they recommend it

I either get 4-1/2 hours or 12 hours, there is no in between.

Laughs in chronic fatigue

I always go to bed early enough to get 7-8 hours of sleep, but according to the sleep tracker on my watch, I sleep like shit. It's no wonder I'm always so fucking tired.

big sigh I miss those days so much and they are only a few months in my past.

After a lifetime no sleep issues, I’ve been sleeping like shit without medication for the last few months. I get 1 good sleep in without medication and it feels amazing. Then the next night I barely get 3 hours of broken restless sleep.

This sucks and I don’t know how anyone can do it long term 😕

I can't imagine being unable or unwilling to sleep. Sleep is my go-to favorite method of escapism. I can fall asleep anywhere, anytime. And my dreams invariably fill the voids in my life, like cuddling with soft fluffy loving precious housepets that I don't actually have, my children when they were in their adorable toddler stage, love & romance, family, big clean white house that I don't actually live in, but always do in my dreams. I've never tried drugs & never will, but the bliss I experience from sleeping seems comparable to how people describe heroin. Except sleep costs nothing, is always available, causes no trouble, & is a whole lot healthier than heroin 😄

Eh, after a couple years of doing 5-6 hours, 8 hours is no longer doable. For some reason my hip and back start acting up if I sleep longer than 7 hours. Doesn't seem to matter what sleeping position or what bed I use, after 7 hours of inactivity my muscles seem to just start to strain themselves.

I got treated for sleep apnea, got treatment for my chronic insomnia, I stay off my electronics for at least an hour before bed, I don't have any caffeine except a cup of coffee in the morning, and all that and I still get god awful sleep and wake up feeling like shit.

i have do 8-10hrs, anymore will make me groggy throughout the day, and wierdly ill.

I sleep fine. It's waking that's hard. If it's not when my body wants to wake, I hate life for the first sixish hours of the day. Doesn't matter if I had 3 hours or 10.

Damned! I was about to go to bed and instead I read that thread. Now I won't have my 8 hours… :(

I wouldn’t know

Envious. Maybe one day ill have enough time, insurance, and motivation to see a psychiatrist again.

I would simply be too powerful if I ever got a full night of restful sleep!

After years of waking up to get the kids ready and to school, I have mastered the art of sleeping early and waking on time out of pure necessity. Even corona couldn't mess up the pattern anymore.

Oh shit..well good luck..I have insomnia everyday🥺

I can sleep 1-2 hrs and be ready to go for a while. I will fade later in the day, the problem is I will convince myself that I can do that regularly. Requiring myself to get around 7hrs of sleep is really really good for me. For some reason getting closer to 8 makes me not feel so good.

I feel better with 7 or 9 hours of sleep. I I get 8, I feel terrible.

Tell that to a hot flash

My new place creaks a lot. My roommate paces the house all night and doesn’t sleep. Which means I don’t sleep.