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[–] 4 points 1 month ago

The vandalism in Montreal is just a microcosm of that popular anti-AI sentiment — showing that if people continue to be ignored by their elected officials, they’re not afraid to take matters into their own hands.

Seems the wealthy have forgotten their place.

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    [–] 69 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Only you can start data center fires.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 month ago

    Montreal. Go Canada!!

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    [–] 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    We don't want them, and we elected officials to block them. If our elected officials ignore us, and accept the bribes to build them despite what we want, then we are perfectly within our rights as citizens to burn them to the ground.

    We don't want them, and they'd better listen to us. They won't get burned down everywhere, but there is a non-zero number that absolutely will get burned down. If enough of them burn down, they won't want to take a chance on investing in them.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    We don't want them, and we elected officials to block them. If our elected officials ignore us, and accept the bribes to build them despite what we want, then we are perfectly within our rights as citizens to burn them to the ground.

    Something something Four Boxes of Liberty.

    For the unaware, the Four Boxes is a concept that describes the four ways the average person has to impact public policy. The first is the soap box. Use your voice. If that soap box is taken away, you move to the second box.

    The second box is the ballot box. Even if you’ve been silenced (via things like shadowbanning, having your content suppressed, being prosecuted for talking about it in public, etc) then you can still vote to enact change. Ideally, your representative would represent you and push for the change you want.

    The third box is the jury box. If someone is on trial for a crime that was morally justified, the jury can simply refuse to find them guilty. For instance, if someone is on trial for cutting down a Flock camera, the jury would be fully within their rights to find them innocent despite all evidence. Once enough people support a particular change, a jury can reliably grind the cogs of the legal system to a halt.

    And the last box of liberty is the ammo box. If all else fails, they have removed jury trials, representatives don’t represent the people, people aren’t free to discuss change, etc, then the ammo box is the last resort.

    With regards to this specific incident, we’re somewhere between the third and fourth boxes. An angry mob burning down a data center is solidly in the fourth box, and the third box will come into play once prosecutors start trying to charge individual people with crimes because of it. But it’s important to remember that the third and fourth boxes were only touched because the first and second boxes failed.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I love this, thanks. I'm particularly interested in Jury Nullification. I was hoping that would work for Luigi, who deserves it, the same way it worked for OJ, who didn't.

    Over the next two years, MAGA is going to try to throw thousands of innocent people into prison for decades as terrorists, and we need to completely shut it down at the jury level, if it comes to that.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Take out the RAMs and other vital hardware components like GPUs before burning these. AI slop has been a pain and the price increase due to chip shortage is a massive annoyance.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago

    They don't fuck around over there, jeez.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Completely unimportant, but straight up that broken glass looks like someone Looney Tunes'd it and ran through the glass leaving just their silhouette

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    The article says it seems to have been an organized group. I wonder how one gets into such a group?

    Like, do they just send somebody a private message on a decentralized platform with a link to some sort of encrypted messaging app or something?

    Unrelated, my inbox is open to anyone wanting to just say hi!

    No I am not kidding.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    At first read I thought the article was talking about a university research lab. Had to click the CBC link to find out it's building of an actual "AI company."

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    Based based based based

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    I can't help but wonder if these companies didn't arrange this alleged attack themselves. Just another way to get attention and thus more investors to fleece.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    Feel free to cross post this to Fuck_AI

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    sounds like a plan

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    more of this, please

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago

    Why target the students? Go for the labs that are using this tech against us.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

    Nice! Remember, if you're anti-AI data centers for environmental reasons, you should also be vegan. Animal agriculture is a much larger plague on the environment.

    Edit: downvoted by animal abusers suffering from cog diss lol

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    we need to eat. we don't need corporations

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    It seems like this person with the murder meat eater name isn't quite sane. I have read that vegans suffer from shrinking of their brains, and I strongly believe it when I see them shouting online

    Also this is in a thread about vandalism against AI data centres. I wonder what made that guy think it was a place for diet warfare

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Don't forget to eat your bean soup.

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  • I love these kinds of comments because it reminds me that animal abusers don't have a leg to stand on. I will eat any food i want because there are sufficient vegan alternatives for everything that don't require animal abuse and rights violations :) thanks

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Industrial agriculture is bad whether it makes beef or broccoli

    Unfortunately we need it to feed us all. Regenerative agriculture (which builds soil) is much better and requires stock animals

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Animal agriculture is much worse and you're just coping if you say different. We would use 75% less land if we stopped farming animals. We would reduce 14% of our GHG emissions. We would see a substantial reduction in our use of fresh water reserves. And most importantly, we could not exploit and murder 80 billion land animals annually, who have a right to life just like we do.

    We do not need to eat animals, so that's incorrect. Equating animal agriculture to plant agriculture is something only an ignorant person would do.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It didn't say what companies it was. Anyone know?

    For all we know it was some physics lab trying to develop fusion reactor designs.

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    [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    Burn them all

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    Not every data center has to do with ai folks

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  • [+] -17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

    It's scary how many people think data centers are just for AI. Datacenters power the web, this site is hosted on one. But the mob mentality just wants to torch all of them naively.

    Like I'm against all the unnecessary build out, but there's no sense in trying to burn down the ones that already exist.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago

    AWS, Azure, and GCP had plenty of capacity 6 years ago for the entire "web" that they ran, now all of a sudden they need 20x the capacity.

    AI requires insanely power hungry GPUs and massive cooling infrastructure.

    It's not exactly rocket science to see what happened.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    If a web site dies because a dc got torched, that's bad redundancy architecture and DR plan. 😄 I'm considering transferring some domains to AliBaba Cloud. I don't think any bombs or arson would be befalling those dcs anytime soon.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Strawman. No ones advocating for destroying existing web infrastructure. It's clear what this is about.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    No it's not. You may be aware of the difference, but the average person has no clue

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    Well we aren't commenting under an article of those getting ransacked, are we...

    Your concern is justified, and you should target it squarely and solely at the people who build the LLMs and mislead the public about them by obfuscating what "AI" they actually provide.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 1 month ago

    Data Centers in mainstream media means hyperscalers. It's true some of this hate is incidentally redirected towards small data centers but it's a negligible problem at the moment.

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    [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Places like these probably have a lot of expensive equipment like ram, gpus, and storage.

    A large data center probably has hundreds of millions or billions worth, USD!

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    [–] 0 points 1 month ago*

    I hate this shitty take:

    With anxiety over an AI doomsday reaching a fever pitch, some citizens of the world are no longer asking for regulations.

    There will be an AI doomsday.

    Is it going to be terminators marching down the streets? Almost definitely not.

    But either these chatbots don't work and crash out economy, or work and take everyone's job...

    We're fucked either way

    Billionaires keep saying they'll suddenly be happy with their bank accounts and would start supporting social programs when (really if) it works., but if that was true they'd be doing it now.

    The only way to mitigate the damage of AI, is to not build it. Or at least wait to fix wealth inequality first. Because every single billionaire who has ever existed has cared more about personal wealth than human existence. If they didn't they'd have stopped hoarding wealth long before becoming a billionaire and used it to help others.

    We can't count on a powerful class of people that requires having a complete lack of empathy to magically develop empathy if we give them even more money. No amount of money will make them develop empathy.

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