pretty telling that first reation of some here can be summed with: what is really white?

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[–] 67 points 1 month ago (28 children)

Depending on your definition of 'white', probably start scavenging for the upcoming crisis. The loss of like 90% of the world's population will create a supply chain crisis and general systems collapse. Who knows what skills and technologies are lost.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 month ago (20 children)

    I hope to the gods old and new that the winkyface means you are actually joking, not "hahah only serious" joking.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago* (17 children)

    Their comment history suggests they are being serious.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Well, that one's getting a downvote, a user note, and a block.

    ;)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    So glad I learnt how to add a note on Voyager. This is very helpful

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Wait. How does this work? I can’t find these and I really miss tags I had in Apollo.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Yeah.... Racist and a transphobe, who could have guessed?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    You have a middle schooler's understanding of the world around you, and that is being unkind to most middle schoolers.

    phobia can also mean aversion, as in hydrophobic.....or an aversion to water.

    Did your parents drop you on your head when you were younger? Or did you have to work to become so ignorant?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (7 children)

    phobia is a persistent, excessive, unrealistic fear of an object, person, animal, activity, or situation. It is a type of anxiety disorder. A person with a phobia either tries to avoid the thing that triggers the fear, or endures it with great anxiety and distress.

    Lol, you do understand that the definition of a word is different from its use as a suffix?

    "The suffix -phobia comes from the Greek word phobos, meaning "fear" or "panic," and is used to form nouns that mean an extreme or irrational fear, aversion, or hatred of a specific thing."

    I don't have an aversion to transvestites, I just feel sad for their pain and wish they could focus on something other than playing dressup (or worse, mangling their hormones and/or genitals)

    When you feel sad for someone's pain you tend to empathize with them, not specifically use hate speech and inflammatory language to hurt them more.

    Can't imagine what it's like to center your life around gender identity. It's like seeing a cripple, you know?

    I bet there's a lot of things you lack the intelligence to imagine.

    I would hug you if I thought it'd heal you.

    I'm a happily married cishet dude. I'm just not a transphobe for the same reason I'm not a racist, because I'm not a braindead Incel fucking loser.

    hydrophobic literally means water-fearing

    Again..... Displaying your ignorance proudly.

    Hydrophiba means fear of water.

    Hydrophobic means aversion, dislike, or repels water

    Suffix -phobic : Biology and Chemistry: Describes organisms or substances that repel or dislike certain conditions (e.g., hydrophobic materials that repel water).

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Right. There is no fear, aversion, or hatred here.

    I don't think I would say you are an authority at understanding the emotions behind the words you lack the ability to comprehend.

    Ridicule has always been a valid strategy to influence a change in behavior.

    Why attempt to change your behaviour if you aren't averse to it? Could it be that you are lying....? Though I would lend you the benefit of the doubt if you claimed you just didn't understand the meaning behind the word averse, you obviously struggle with some disabilities.

    I realize it's fruitless for this specific disorder, however.

    So just for cruelty sake ...... Sounds about right for a racist transphobe Incel.

    The literal greek words mean what they mean.

    When you are speaking Greek...... Not when it's used as part of an English word that modifies the meaning of a noun, then the meaning is dependent on the context. Jesus Christ, who taught you English?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    My "disability" is that English is my second language. Googling "averse" shows "Feeling a clear distaste or turning away from an activity, idea, or situation".

    Me too asshole. If you didn't want to show your ignorance, maybe steer clear of arguments about the language.

    will have you know I had a coworker for a number of years who over time switched from Brandon to Olivia and grew tits, and I never once treated them differently from others.

    I don't believe you. You lack any credibility or sense of decency.

    Because seeing people invest so much energy into such a first world problem as gender identity seems like a terrible use of time and energy to me.

    Seems like a lot more people spend their time attacking it. What is it to you how people spend their time? I think you spend too much time being a moron, I'm not trying to make that illegal.

    No one in particular, picked it up on my own.

    Oh, that makes sense. So your teacher was mentally disabled.

    being an incel (aka involunarily celibate)?

    Just a guess based on your other qualities that no one would ever fuck you.

    I already told you I'm happily married.

    And I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    doesn't change objective reality.

    Neither does an unsubstantiated claim.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Hey, good on you for trying but this guy is not a real person. They don't deserve your engagement or your energy. Whether it's a bot or just someone who should be ostracized from society the response should be the same: silence and/or an ass whooping. Only one is applicable on the Internet though.

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    Right. There is no fear, aversion, or hatred here.

    So what is your motivation being antitrans? Because I'm 99% sure if you break down your reasons for being antitrans you're going to end up with fear, aversion or hatred.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Excuse me, but what country provides the most printed silicon for chip manufacturing, and what ethnicity are they?

    Now consider how much of our daily technology we take for granted makes use of that printed silicon.

    That's just one example.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Rare Earth minerals and the skills and equipment to process them are not in the Western world. It is, however, in a grand multitude of countries elsewhere in the world, all of which wouldn't be considered "white". And... That covers everything from guided missiles to toys.

    The most efficient production lines in the world, with the most advanced manufacturing capabilities, are in China. China sells the equipment and the skill to manage the equipment to its neighbours, and we get everything from clothes to tooth brushes from that.

    The world has ONE, only ONE, major source of Gum Arabic, which is a country in Africa you've probably never even heard of. This includes the skills and expertise to manufacture it, and it's used in food and paint.

    Do I even need to mention where the world gets the majority of its oil from, and where all the skilled workers and equipment is to process said oil? Or how important oil is to the world, even completely discounting its use as a fuel?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    You exact quote was:

    Given that it's only non-whites that are gone, no skills or technologies were lost ;)

    Skills and technology can always be reproduced, more easily if adequate documentation exists. However, that is not your premise. Your premise is no skills or technology would be lost, which is just wrong. All of it will be lost, and whoever will be left will need to go through the long process of learning and reproducing said skills and technology, which can take multiple generations.

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    [–] 102 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    It will be skin colour again, but limited to a tighter spectrum.

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  • [–] 112 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    People really forget that racism against Italians and Irish was a thing.

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    Poor Irish folk. I love the Irish. And while I've plenty of opportunity to watch blazing saddles it just doesn't appeal to me. Is it wrong of me to defend the Irish in light of my ignorance of this humorous show?

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    It'll just be the intra-European racism that already exists, which doesn't particularly follow skin color.

    Germanic, Celtic, Slavic, Mediterranean, etc.. Each with their own subdivisions ready to go if the others were wiped out.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    mediterreans would be darker skin, so they are the first targets. then it goes to anti-semitism in the end.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Historically, no. In Germanic regions it's first Jews, then Slavs, then Celts, then Mediterraneans. Mediterraneans get credit for the Reniassance, Greco-Roman civilization and Christianity.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I was going to say, some pasty motherfuckers who can't be exposed to the sun for 15 minutes without going to the hospital are going to say they're the superior people.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Nah, as such a pasty motherfucker, other white people expect you to tan. I grew up being teased for my paleness and my neighbor offered to let me use her tanning bed. (I declined because I burn but don't tan).

    My public school system was 100% white until my senior year of high school when a black family sent their kids to kindergarten.

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    You'd think it would be hair color which is easier to spot at a distance, with the familiar "brighter is better" rule placing the blond[e]s on top.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Eye and hair.

    Source: grew up in a very white country.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    What's the go if you have black hair but super pale eyes in that kind of system?

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  • [–] 96 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    In no particular order:

    • Mourn the loss of numerous family, friends, and acquaintances.
    • Panic and prepare for the impending crash of my society's essential supply chains.
    • Existential meltdown at the idea that billions of people can vanish overnight.

    What a stupid fucking question.

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    Blue eyes but they remain a pretty deep blue. I always wonder how the Alethi would categorize me lol

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I assume people with medium lightness would be categorized contextually by them, sort of like how people with skin tones that don't read clearly black or white are irl. If someone with ambiguous eyes is wearing a hand sleeve and acting noble you'll assume she's a light eyes, but if she's wearing a glove and interacting with laborers you'll assume she's a dark eyes.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    The semantical arguments about who counts as “white” already exist and often in very hate filled ways. Alt right “preserve the white race” people already try to bring back the pre world war 2 “Italians don’t count as white” nonsense. And of course tons of Italian Americans are certainly not known for progressive stances

    So basically targets would shift?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    Don't forget that WASPs often excluded entire professions to what they considered 'lesser' whites and catholics and Jews.

    Ben Shapiro once said that Jews might not be good at the NBA like blacks when he doesn't realize (or does but is lying) that Jews dominated basketball in the 1920s and 1930s. Ironically then as now racism played a role in stereotyping them. Since Jews were seen as crafty and intelligently sneaky this was seen as manifesting in the sport, which often does need deception to get ahead.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    The concept of whiteness comes from the Spanish inquisition after the fall of Grenada. Being fair skinned was a way of proving without a doubt that you weren't a jew or a muslim.

    My guess is we'd start dividing up amongst religious heritage again. Mormons vs. Evangelicals Vs. Protestants Vs. Catholics Vs. The Real Christians

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Also the Spanish discriminated against Muslims who converted to Christian and doubted their faith as true. This was a generational thing since even their grandchildren were seen as suspect even if they and their parents were born and raised Catholic.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Sure but I don’t think the alt right morons on twitter recognize that. They just see olive skin and a name that ends in a vowel and go ew gross different

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Having just come from the "taking things too literally" thread, contexts like these make it fun to deliberately take it too literally.

    What would I do if I woke up and there were only white people left? I'd probably think "what the fuck is going on" as I see only white people floating around in empty space, and then I'd die from a mix of lack of oxygen, hypothermia, and lack of pressure.

    Though maybe I'd first ask a clarifying question, like if that "black people" was just an example or would there still be like asians, and latinos? Do Irish and Italians count as white for this question? Basically set it up to look like I'm engaging with the question in good faith before taking the "clarification" to the extreme and giving the above answer.

    And then poke at whatever new edge cases they leave when they try to clarify again, until I get bored and just disengage because it was a fucking dumb question.

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  • [–] 57 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

    This is your daily reminder that Irish and Italians weren't considered white at the beginning of the 20th century in America.

    Hell, some people in Europe don't consider albanians to be white.

    Also I'd be very concerned as to where all the racial minorities went. Like genuinely concerned.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    One of my favorite facts was that West Side Story was initially about the rivalry between polish and Italian immigrants in New York and Leonard Bernstein had to rework it because he received feedback that it would be too niche and people who didn't live in New York in a very specific window of time wouldn't get it.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    People who don't live in Europe don't even realise how divided white Europeans are. The Irish and Eastern Europeans are even victims of colonisation.

    And forget North America and Europe, just look at Africa and tell me they did not have inter-ethnic conflicts.

    The post is very silly and North Americancentric.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Literally Brexit was mostly about Brits not liking other Europeans being free to move to Britain, especially Poles.

    I lived in London and unless they actually start talking and you hear their accent (or, even "worse" for the average Brit, their language) you can't actually tell a Pole from a Brit.

    So. yeah, a fucking mid-sized country in the modern era has left a massive European trade union which gave them massive benefits (it has been estimated that Britain's GDP is growing 2% less every year because of leaving) because of their xenophobia against other Europeans, especially Eastern and Southern Europeans.

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    With all these immigrants, Heaven for sure has become a bad place, which is why I refused to go there when offered!! When God comes to his sense and remigrate them, I'll reconsider!!

    What, you doubt me? Such a lack of faith! You must be a bad Christian! You'll probably go to Hell!

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Something something Stormlight Archive.

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