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[–] 339 points 1 month ago (9 children)

It. Not she. Stop anthropomorphizing slop.

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  • [–] 72 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Totally agree, but they actually did a pretty solid job of making that distinction in the article. They put β€œactress” and β€œshe” in quotes to begin with, and then switched to referring to the thing as β€œit.” They even put the word β€œfilm” in quotes, since it’s clearly not a film. I was surprised that the tone of this article was so critical, it’s heartening.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I suppose "film" is still accurate. It's still a movie, it's just an animated movie no different from the "live action" remake of the Lion King.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Ehhh could probably be argued either way, but whatever you may think of the live action Lion King, it was made by real people from start to finish, with people doing the animating, and actual human voices doing the acting. Whatever this video is is not that, IMO.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    We use gendered pronouns when talking about cartoon characters

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  • [–] 223 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Why are these things being called actresses. It’s literally β€œai video starts randomly speaking Cantonese”. It’s not an actress. It’s not acting.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Remember when they tried that shit with Aki Ross from Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within? The CGI model, who looks less realistic than Alyx Vance?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (5 children)

    Aki was years before alyx and looked much better. Which makes sense considering one was rendered for cinema and one was for real time game engine rendering

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

    On the left, we have Aki Ross, main character of Final Fantasy, The Spirits Within, developed over 4 years in the late 90's and released into theaters in 2001. Square's render farm consisted of 960 Pentium III 933MHz workstation PCs, which took 90 minutes to render each frame of the film.

    On the right, we have Alyx Vance, companion character of Half Life 2 and Episode 1 and 2, developed over a period of 4 years and released in 2004. The published minimum specs for this game are a Windows XP computer with a 1.7GHz processor, 512MB of RAM, a graphics card compatible with DirectX 8.1, and 6.5GB of storage, on which the game runs at a framerate of 60Hz rendered in real time.

    "Years before" They both came out while I was in high school. Their development cycles overlapped.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Right, so Aki clearly looks better

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yes. And it makes sense. Aki is a much higher poly count, actual individual strands of hair, with cinema quality rendering. The other is a video game model.

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  • [–] 106 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Co-founder of Particle6, Eline van der Velden, gave an explanation for her short-circuiting bot to Deadline, saying: "Tilly can be a bit of a show-off - I’m guessing she just wanted to show her language skills as most of her interviews to date have been in English... She is autonomous after all."

    Ah, yes, sure.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Maybe the model heard Tom Conti's "mm-ah" noises and interpreted them as a Chinese vocalization? Just one of many, many errors that make this thing "not ready for prime time." Looks like Hollywood studios will just have to keep dealing with those annoying, profit-making human actors!

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  • [–] 74 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    At least she didnt start repeating "Albuquerque, New Mexico" over and over again.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Co-founder of Particle6, Eline van der Velden, gave an explanation for her short-circuiting bot to Deadline, saying: "Tilly can be a bit of a show-off - I’m guessing she just wanted to show her language skills as most of her interviews to date have been in English... She is autonomous after all."

    Yes and I'm sure when DeepSeek or GLM does the same in an opencode session, it's also because it has a personality and is a show-off, not a bug or anything.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago*

    This Eline van der Velden is a D-list actress, like she isn't even famous here in the Netherlands. This is her desperate attempt to become relevant in the industry by trying to undermine real actors just because she couldn't hack it. It's like if a failed graphics design artist resorts to gen ai art to get work and screw over real artists.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    It's also not a bug because this is how LLMs are meant to workβ€”to produce some output based on their corpus of information, with a dial for how much randomness to throw in.

    They set the temperature too high and it made a nonsensical connection that broke the illusion of a conversation.

    But the connections are always nonsensical, even when it sounds like on topic English.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 month ago*

    Imagine if the news started interviewing the 20 questions genie (Akinator). This is software and it can run on my laptop, I can use whatever picture I like. How they are treating it is actually insane.

    They are interviewing a chat bot system prompt and a memory txt fill that's probably not even 50 lines long. That's all that seperates this one from the next.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Not an "actress" not a "she"

    The fuck is wrong with this species?

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago

    Who gives a rat fuck about an ai it piece of crap. Move on.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago

    Slop starts slopping during it's slopterview.

    All in all very sloppy.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    Was "she" embarrassed? I doubt it.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    Really. Because her eyes are giving lifeless in those stills.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    What does it say in Chinese? Did it respond to the question in another language or is it warning us of the coming end times?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    It speaks in an accent that is similar to native English speakers learned to speak Cantonese where the tones are messed up. Not only that, but the sentence sounds like a mechanic translation from English to Mandarin, then read character by character in Cantonese.

    (long pause switching from English to Cantonese) (speaking indistinctly)... are you asking about other persons, whether they are digital doubles, just like me? (speaking indistinctly again) think they have real directors, writers, (some words I can't even recognize) (interrupted)

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    The fact it replicated incomprehensible bad Cantonese as if spoken by an English speaker who sucks at it is the first thing approaching Art that this clunker has ever simulated.

    Thank you for indulging my curiosity!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    So it wasn't even GOOD Cantonese. Figures.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Yeah, I think if AI was good at translations, we'd see a lot more localizations of media, like manga/mangua/manghwa, video games, etc.

    But the reality is that when people say LLMs are great at translation, it's more of a "they can make things understandable (some portion of the time)" not "they make it sound as if a native of the other language is saying the exact same thing in that language that you said in yours".

    LLMs make token associations, there is no understanding. They'll need bigger neural nets and even better training data to model understanding. They seem to be making progress in programming but that's because the whole pipeline can be better automated: a program can be compiled to find syntax or grammar errors, and it can be run to check the behaviour. There is no automatic feedback mechanism for things like translation or image generation.

    It's all subjective, too, so someone who wants the models to be perceived as "good" will be more likely to perceive it as good themselves and miss or forgive errors, while skeptics will be looking closely for them. Neutrals won't be looking for errors but will recognize the uncanny valley (which bad translations can also fall into, though they are usually perceived more as funny than creepy).

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    Clanker demonstrates complete absence of awareness during interview when she inexplicably started speaking Cantonese.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Are they using fucking gpt2 lmao how does that even happen

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Happens often enough with Chinese models for me, once even had it happen with Claude I believe. I suspect there's a lot of Chinese training data even in western models because China is a large target market and being a country as big as it is, there's bound to be a large amount of Chinese literature available.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    My roomba was scandalized! He said "I used to be a fan, but ζ•…δΊ‹ζœ¬θΊ«ε°±δ»€δΊΊη—›θ‹¦"

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    Not suspicious at all...

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    This "glitch" is the only reason I know about it. What film is it in?

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  • I would long to watch the video but it’s got Piss Morgan in it. Not gonna subject myself to that!

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  • It’s a feature, not a bug! This actress can do β€œher” own dubbing for all languages in existence!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    This doesn't seem like a glitch, I suspect it was an operator error or something.

    She started repeating the same answer. Then i think someone tried hitting the skip button and either it flipped the wrong flag or it changed languages. Reminded me of the meta cooking demo earlier this year

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