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[–] 23 points 1 month ago (4 children)
  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I thought Edge is just the browser people use when a website isnt working in their normal browser, to check if it's the website that's broken or the browser.

    Do people use it for other things?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    To download their browser after a fresh install?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    This is relevant only to those with barely half a petri dish worth of sentience, though. All others haven't used Edge in years. 😉

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    [–] 67 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    I bet the Venn Diagram of the "Uses Edge" and "Uses AdBlocker" is really small.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I, unfortunately, must use it at work.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Huh. I don't know what's happening in the corporate world but that kinda surprises me given chrome has way higher market share and generally the most traveled path is the easiest. And they're the same thing under the hood

    I'm curious why

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    Since Edge adopted Chromium, there's no reason not use it from an IT perspective. It's one less program we have to deploy to new machines. Built-in apps that get the job done have an inherent advantage in an enterprise environment.

    We do also support Chrome and Firefox and allow users to download them from our company portal. But the vast majority never do these days. They can't tell the difference between Edge and Chrome. As of last week, I think we only have about 50 users with Chrome installed and less than 10 with Firefox.

    This is in an org with ~6000 workstations deployed.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Default for win 11. Office 365 integrated. "Paying for it anyway, might as well use it".

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    What does it mean for a browser to integrate with office 365?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    I'm probably wrong, but office 365 should be fully digital now and opening it on PC is likely just opening a browser webpage. They built a whole thing around the edge webview, so it's all one big unhappy family you can't be rid of.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    Guess I must continue to use the "horrible" Firefox. Oh no. Anyways...

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Good old Firefox. You were here before Chrome and you're still the better option.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Say what you want about it, but I have used it for like 15 years at this point. Even donated money to them on several occasions.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    A gentle reminder that Mozilla is actively using user data for AI modeling and Firefox (the compiled browser) is no longer considered Open Source but source available.

    Consider Ironfox or, my personal choice, waterfox as compatible alternatives.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    What license did they change to that is not open source?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    They left Firefox (the source code) to still be MPL and then changed their compiled code to a proprietary "Terms of Use" license.

    The terms of use allow Mozilla to terminate this license "at any time for any reason, including if Mozilla decides not to offer Firefox anymore" which goes against a core tenant of OSS of not restricting anyone's ability to use the software.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    This has been the case for like 20 years no? See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat#History

    I remember using Iceweasel and other variations back in the day because otherwise they'd be infringing on Mozilla's trademark. I don't actually see anything wrong with this. You can still create a 1-1 clone/copy of Firefox and advertise it as such with a different name. But telling others it is Firefox would not be accurate as Mozilla has no control over it and others may introduce changes that negatively reflect on their brand.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I bet this will come as a terrible blow to Edge's dozens of users

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago

    "Older" makes it sound like they've stopped being maintained. Headline should say "better"

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    People actually use edge?

    I’ve only used it once, and that was to download a different browsers.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I switched to it on Windows because it supported PWAs (Unlike Firefox), then when I switched to Linux I went to switch back to Firefox just to find Firefox can't import from Edge under Linux.

    I can switch back soon, I reported the bug and it got fixed, and the remaining PWA I use is now being vibecoded so it's not super important anymore.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Oh no. What will the 9 people who use Edge do?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Oh noes, now I will have to continue not using edge, what will I do if I can't edge?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I don't support ending support for mv2. But a recent study does indicate that mv3 ad blockers are getting the job done:

    https://doi.org/10.56553/popets-2026-0027

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    So strange to me that people would choose to use edge or chrome when other free browsers exist that let you do what you want.

    The internet without an ad blocker is basically unusable

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Me too, but Google pays billions to push Chrome as the default on devices. I think Google and Microsoft are awful companies nowadays. Chrome and Edge are basically spyware now. So are Google search and Bing. There are others, but for example Mozilla gets boatloads of money from Google to exist, Brave has had some privacy issue (AFAIK), and so have others had their share of problems or over reliance on Google or Microsoft. I use DuckDuckGo as my browser, but have been starting to use Tor more to keep up with preventing advertiser from tracking using digitally fingerprinting. DDG or StartPage for search are unfortunately both reliant on Microsoft and Google indexing, respectively, unfortunately. Kagi may be an option, but they don’t have a browser yet. Anyway, there are so many topics on this that I could go on and on.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Who the fuck uses edge anyhoo?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    This is a sign to quit edging now.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    And now for the increase of the virus phone calls because an adblocker is NEEDED for the web

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Not surprising for them to drop MV2, I expected it to happen even sooner, you would have to go out of your way to support MV2 extensions on chromium based browsers, and I do not see a reason for Microsoft to do that.

    I get the impression that people want MV2 primarily for better ad/script blocking, but maybe the more secure and efficient way to go is to have built in adblocking. Firefox recently integrated adblock-rust, but you have to enable it in about:config and add filters manually, it seems very experimental and barebones at this moment compared to how it works in brave, for which it was written originally. It is probable some firefox forks expanded on this feature.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 3 months ago

    There are plenty of browsers with integrated ad blocking. All of them are the afterthought not the focus though.

    Also, Google's Blink, Mozilla's Gecko and Apple's WebKit are all developed by companies that have a financial stake in advertising business. Conflict of interests might not have direct impact tomorrow, but it's not something we should blindly trust.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Over the next few months, MV2 extensions will be gradually turned off by default. Users will be notified in advance and directed to recommended MV3 versions where available.

    These changes will start in the Canary, Dev, and Beta channels and gradually broaden to Stable in the following months, with the goal of completing the consumer transition by the end of 2026. Managed devices will not be affected during the consumer rollout. Enterprise deprecation will follow in early 2027.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    We need Authentiverse with browsers that serve users first.

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    [+] 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    No other top comments required. Edge is just Explorer 2.0. How else are you going to download FireFox if Firefox isn't installed?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Easy. Use PowerShell:

    Invoke-WebRequest -Uri "https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-latest-ssl&os=win64&lang=en-US" -OutFile "$env:TEMP\FirefoxSetup.exe"; Start-Process -FilePath "$env:TEMP\FirefoxSetup.exe" -ArgumentList "/S" -Wait; Remove-Item "$env:TEMP\FirefoxSetup.exe"
    
    
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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    How long until someone creates a render proxy that loads requested pages, reprocesses the result without the ads, and send that rendered output to your actual browser

    Out of fucking spite.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    You would have to break tls to do that. It's your system, you could probably do whatever you want, but the browser is checking for certificates and origin requests. It would get complex real quick to do the same checks the browser is doing...

    At that point, you are basically building another browser.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Massive, massive vuln for a lot of utilities which use edge by default but use ad blockers to prevent malware ridden ads from playing on their machines.

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    [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Sick, I use it for work cause I have to, and my local adblockers will pick up the slack. Bye Felicia.

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