Which high up in their church needed a transfusion?

An old JW boss of mine almost lost his wife during the birth of his first child when she was badly haemorrhaging at home.

I tried asking him about it (a few years after the event) and he was obviously defensive, but the gist was that they wouldn’t have taken a transfusion, and that he would have accepted losing her.

I’m not convinced - I think the decision was more dictated by her than him - but that would have been the end result.

Absolute madness

Despite the adjustment, the organisation was firm that its longstanding prohibition on whole-blood transfusions has not changed. It anchored the continued ban on its reading of biblical instructions to "abstain from blood," signalling that the shift applies only to the four major components, not to transfusions in their entirety.

People died because of this and now they just go "we looked at the rules again and we think they actually mean something else". What the fuck is this? The Supreme Court?

So... which higher up at the JW organization needed a life saving transfusion? No way they changed their minds on this unprompted.

Whenever I see stupid shit like JW refusing blood, i'm reminded of the parable of the man in the flood, who keeps getting rescuers coming to him time and time again, only to refuse it all with the declaration that god would save them.. and then they finally die in the flood, and they angerly accost got about why god didnt save him, and god is all like "Fuck you, You fucking idiot. You refused every rescue that came your way. This is your fault for being stupid"

Christianity also updates its Ts&Cs on occasion, like in 2007 when Pope John Paul II had a document commisioned, the publication of which was also authorised by Pope Benedict XVI, that basically said unbaptised children now go to heaven instead of limbo.

Next up in the news, "Jehovah's Witnesses are going door to door asking for the blood of the innocent."

My great aunt was a JW. She lived a fairly long life but it could have been longer. she refused care at the end because of her beliefs. Unreal the control that religions have over people in the guise of morality and an afterlife. So stupid.

Prayers for those who died of blood loss 2 hours before God pushed the "allow transfusions" hotfix ☹️ 🙏

Imagine you just watched your child die because they needed a blood transfusion a week ago but it was against your religion.

This is like the story of Onan. His brother died so it was his job to marry his brother's wife and give her a son. But he didn't want to so he "spilled his seed." So God killed him for failing to do his duty and provide her a son.

But later when God gave his laws for people to follow, the punishment was not death, it was to take him in front of the town elders and "remove a sandal from his foot and spit in his face." Like c'mon. What are we even doing here, folks?

Why? Shouldn't they happy to be able to visit God sooner?

Aaahhh, so god visited somebody to give this great news? We love in the times where there are cameras everywhere, so where is the video of this momentous event?

Christians don't even make themselves eunuchs any more!

What next? Women having the authority to teach? Madness! I miss traditional Christian values.

Well what did they witness this time?

Ah yes, the god that never changes.

This is how you know it's all made up bullshit.

I believe!!! That Satan has a hold of you. I believe! That the Lord God has sent me here! And I believe that in 1978 God changed his mind about black people!!

While I despise organized religion, this is a good thing. It'll save lives.

https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/jehovahs-witnesses-just-gutted-their

So about 25 years ago, my mother remarried. Her new husband was a Jehovah Witness, or at least he had been before his previous divorce made him no longer welcome. Well, with their marriage he's suddenly welcome again, and so both he and my mother were JW.

Fast forward five years, and my mother has a condition in which she had to undergo surgery. During surgery, her red blood cell count dropped dangerously and thus required a blood transfusion. No medical issues with the transfusion, it all went well.

A few weeks later she has to return for further surgery. My siblings and I are visiting with her in the pre-op room, and we're suddenly joined with elders from her church. They'd heard about the earlier transfusion, and were there with pre-filled out paperwork for her to sign to decline any further should the medical need arise this time. I interrupted, and as the oldest of her children, I told her that under no circumstances would she be signing that. Ultimately, she did not sign and they left the church because of it.

If someone has a deeply held belief, who am I to tell them they're wrong. But my mother had no belief in the "sin" of blood transfusions. She'd only been part of the church for a handful of years. And even those "deeply held beliefs" of the church, they were subject to change themselves. Organ donation was once viewed within the church the same way they'd been viewing blood transfusion, but at some point the benefits of organ donation were clear enough to alter the "rules." I'm glad they're finally changing their views on this, but they could have killed my family member if I hadn't insisted they leave, and I won't forget that.

Is this a major version bump? Like are we on 3.0 now?

All religions are a form of mental illness. Religion is the greatest threat facing humanity BY FAR.

Because even after our little temporary oil-powered blip of 8 billion people lobbing planes full of bombs at each other collapses, we'll still keep inventing gods to disagree over.

oh so this is why they went out of their way to get my explicit consent for blood transfusions in the hospital

thought that was fucking weird

*Khorne did not like that*

In the US there is more control die to waivers and health insurance etc,but in Ireland my JW Friends have orders to obey the law of the land when it comes to doctrine conflicting with health matters,therefore they will grudgingly accept emergency blood transfusions.

J/W's are a 19th century pyramid scheme.

I wonder if they are using AI for their revisions now.

Happy to see this. I never like operating on JW patients because of the blood rule.

But do they get christmas?

Is this another of Satan's temptations?

ain't gods neoprouns He/Him? (apparently different from he/him)

I BELIEVE THAT SATAN HAS A HOLD OF YOU

I BELIEVE THAT THE LORD GOD HAS SENT ME HERE

AND I BELIEVE THAT IN 1978 GOD CHANGED HIS MIND ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE

God sends emails now. Very modern.

It's important to stay healthy before the battle royale to be one of the raptured ones.... The ones that go to heaven. I learned yesterday that only like 100,000 people get to go but yehoos are like 9 million. So do the math. Gotta get that popcorn ready if it happens tomorrow. Hey, if it happens, I'm staying on the sidelines.. Hey my dude, I'm not one! But I know that guy over there is! And look he's flying! Well if you look from down-here in the general direction, he kinda looks like he's about to fly.

Tbf religions ARE supposed to update terms & conditions.