Man that's rougher than I expected. 0/3, either we got really unlucky or supply vs. demand is way out of whack :(

Edit: Here's a website that's giving some rough estimates! https://steamframeout.com/

Edit 2: And this one: https://steamhardware.io/tracker/steam-frame/

Email from Valve: You are on the waitlist for Steam Frame 256GB Kit. When we did the one-time randomization of the list, your place in line ended up beyond the number of Steam Frames currently available for reservation. As we work our way through the reservation queue, some customers may cancel their reservations. If that happens, you may be moved into the reservation queue, and you'll be notified via email that you have a reservation after all.

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[–] 47 points 1 month ago

I'm so happy for everyone else in these comments saying they got on the reservation list.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    That's definitely some rough luck. Hopefully you're on the next round!

    I was lucky enough to make it on the 1TB reservation queue in the US!

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I got lucky and got in the queue.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    That reminded me to check my email and I’m in queue for the 1Tb. I think this might rate my first woot in over a decade.

    Woot!

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I got into the reservation Queue, US

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    There are several reservation queues:

    • 256 GB North America
    • 256 GB United Kingdom/European Union
    • 256 GB Australia
    • 1TB North America
    • 1TB United Kingdom/European Union
    • 1TB Australia
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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    Meanwhile I’m still waiting for my Steam Machine reservation 😭

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    Yeah me too.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    Yup, waitlist. Very sad. At least we can share in the sadness together.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    I got lucky and got onto the reservation list for a 1TB model!

    (Germany)

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    256,EU

    also waitlist 😭

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (16 children)

    What does it mean if I received nothing?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    The emails are sent out in batches (according to someone in this thread, it does make sense though). It means the email batch you're in wasn't sent yet, so you still have to wait for the email. I also haven't gotten an email yet.

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    Not necessarily, people seem to be getting a mix of wins and loses all day long.

    I doubt it's just "send all the wins, then all the loses"

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    I mean none of this makes much sense to me. I dunno why they don't just send them all at once...but it seems like sooner would be better than later.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Email systems have a tendency to flag mass mails as spam. By sending them in batches, it stops other email systems panicking as much.

    It also lets a human check over things, and limit the effects of a screwup.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago

    That's pretty standard to be honest. Every individual email takes some time to send since you need to communicate to external servers. Even if you don't deliberately group them into batches for better monitoring and load spreading, that's just gonna take a while to churn through

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Depends on how they're deciding ordering. It could be that earlier waitlist emails mean higher on the list. But it could also be a different system.

    It could also be when you put in to the raffle, you're in line. Then on raffle close time, they start at the beginning of the line and rng you a number between 1 and the number of people in line, setting your order, and if you get a number within however many units they have, you win a reservation. With the waves of emails just being them going through chunks of people, eliminating undesirables and cheaters and bots and stuff.

    Like the first 10 people who put in initially could all get the highest (worst) numbered slots in the order. And if you haven't gotten an email at all yet, you could still rng slot #1, assuming it's available.

    It could also just be a massive shuffle at all once and them just vetting the accounts.

    I'm really curious to how they're actually doing it. It could absolutely be more robust, and it's exciting to imagine them really getting carried away with the method. Like total rng ordering with tie breaking or something silly. Or like a recursive iterative sort for no reason. These raffles ran by scientists can get crazy nerdy quickly. Maybe they'll talk about it and have done something like use hl2 to order stuff somehow.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Have you gotten the mail yet? I'm still waiting for mine

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Congrats! I'm still waiting for the mail

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    I actually got in the queue but I probably can't afford the damn thing right now, I was being a bit optimistic when I signed up lmfao

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Damn, that email meant I missed the draw?

    I’ve missed every steam lottery draw and this one sucks the most. 50% odds, too, apparently.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    If it says waitlist, then yes. If it says reservation list, you made it!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    Four friends entered, 2 got it. I was expecting worse ratio.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    I was literally sitting at a table with my only other friend who ordered one when the mail got sent, she got in and I didn't.

    Salty, to say the least.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Waitlist (ಥ﹏ಥ) 1TB, EU

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Just checked my email after waking to read this and, yep, wait list. 256GB in Aus. I'm kind of surprised by the demand, honestly. I thought VR was a bit of a dying fad and more of a niche thing.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Don’t want to give anyone false hope, but I got a Steam Machine reservation email about a month after ending up on the waitlist (I’m sadly in the US).

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Same here, EU and 256GB version. Have not seen anyone anywhere saying they won the lottery yet.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I did, I think. My email says I'm in the queue instead of on the waitlist.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah the wait-list email is very clear that you will be waiting. The reservation email didn't explain things very clearly, so when I got it, I wasn't immediately excited. I was worried I was misreading it, so I went to steam but their verbage has been removed from the page. So I ended up having to Google around to confirm that I should be excited.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    The reservation email didn’t explain things very clearly, so when I got it, I wasn’t immediately excited.

    Same here, but after I saw some of the email screenshots here showing what the waitlist message looked like, then I realized I had been lucky.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    I won the lottery for the 256GB variant in the US, for what it's worth. Otherwise, based on the community tracker, it's about a 2:3 ratio of reservations to waitlists so far?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    What you guys planning on doing with a steam frame?

    I have used vr for like 3 games and then racing games. But thats about it.

    Really difficult to justify 1k+ for a device that to me feels like a novelty outside racing games.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Minecraft!! I already have hundreds of hours in just Vivecraft with no extra Mods, but I've been really getting into the whole of Create Mod (with Aeronautics and Coasters Simulated) recently and those would be amazing in VR. My Quest 1 setup is really starting to struggle though, so I'm putting off a full Create + VR playthrough for the frame.

    I also kinda want to get into VR Chat, I think. Just to try that whole "socializing" thing, see what the fuss is about.

    Other than that, I'm fine with having a novelty device. I used to really like VR for studying since it forced my Adhd ass to keep the studying material in my field of view. But now I'm done with my education (and on some proper medication) so it's not much of a use case anymore.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I really kinda love vr. I had a dev kit back in tge day and bought tge vive when it came out. Things that are pretty outdated right now i assume. I can't stress enough how much i love the idea of vr and whatever, but for some reason i get sweaty as hell, i kinda get dizzy, depending on the game. But more than anything else, for some reason it scares the piss oht of me, and i don't know why. Scary Movies and video games do nothing for me. With vr it's embarrassing. The best game i played was half life and minecraft (a really early build) i ripped my headset of playing half life and i pushed further until the point where you first encounter these big walkers and i just couldn't. It's weird, and i don't know if that is something i would ever get used to.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I used my Oculus CV1 a fair bit before I had to stow my PC for a while. Then of course meta made it so you needed to get a special secret user account on a new service which I could never get to validate, and their stuff didn't work in Linux anyway, so ...

    But shooting games, space sims... Various things.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I had an original Vive, and I enjoyed it. There's not too many exclusive VR games, but there are other experiences. For example, 3D movies are viewable without the shitty experience that is a 3D TV. There are also a lot of traditional games that have good VR experiences. Also, obviously, porn.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Managed to get on the reservation queue for the 256GB in Canada.

    I think Valve used up all of my luck for the foreseeable future, I somehow managed to get a controller at launch, a Machine within a few weeks of launch, and now the Frame.

    Still haven't 100% decided if I'll keep my slot, but chances are pretty good I will given I've been looking to upgrade from the Rift S for a long time.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I fully expected to be waiting till spring. Got reservation, to my surprise. I've got 1500€ set aside for it since January.

    1TB, EU

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Same, and still on the wait-list (me and my partner) for the Machine. Some rough luck for us!!

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    Reservation queue, 1TB, EU.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I got in the queue. I'm sure there will be a lot of cancelations though. A lot of people probably signed up because it was free, and we're still deciding if they wanted to purchase. In three days I bet you get your chance.

    Out of curiosity, which version did you sign up for? I signed up for the cheaper one. I wonder if the more expensive one is more limited?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 month ago

    I signed up for the smaller version as well. Judging from the tracker website, you indeed had a slightly better change for that one than for the 1 TB:

    Although that doesn't tell us anything about how limited it was, since it also depends on how many ordered that version in the first place

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I still haven't received an email at all. Getting kinda nervous :'l

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I’m right there with you. Still in limbo no email

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Sigh, still no mail. I choose to believe that we're just so far at the front of the queue that Valve doesn't bother sending us the reservation mails because we will be getting ordering mails right away 😤

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Same for me. US, didn’t make the list.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Waitlist also, western NA region, 1TB model. Damn.

    What are y'alls thoughts for when the next wave for reservations may go out? What were Machine/Controller waitlists like? This is my first foray into Steam lotteries.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    The controller page gives an estimate now (the one someone sent me just said "2027" but that's something, apparently for some it said a specific month in 2026). Maybe after the first batch of reservations is fully sold the frame page will be updated similarly. Though if the website in the OP doesn't have some major sampling bias, it doesn't seem unlikely that the next batch will cover the remaining pre-registrations. Though when that batch will be not even valve might know right now.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I'm aware of me and 3 friends entering. One gets to order soon, other 3 are on waitlist.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Wait what? I signed up for 256 GB in the EU, but I didn't get any kind of email yet.

    Edit: I finally received the email, 20h after the signup window closed. Waitlist :(

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Could take up to a day IIRC, you should recieve something by end of day Sept 18th Pacific time... that's a wait that would have killed me more than finding out I'm on a waitlist. Closure is closure, I guess?

    (They did say that emails go out in batches)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    It is very unfortunate that these website only aggregate these numbers after the lottery. These estimates are so dependent on having a random sample and this is not guarenteed anymore (people who got on the waitlist are more/less likely to visit such websites)

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I don't actually mind that, as it gives a worst case estimation and it is likely to be better in reality. Better than the other way around

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    What do you mean by worst case?

    I cannot provide a good source (besides the book "How to measure anything") for this, but probably 50 random participants would be enough to provide a pretty accurate estimate of waitlist wait time. That‘s orders of magnitude less than the data these sites have, but they are probably less accurate.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    What do you mean by worst case?

    As you said these sites are likely to overrepresent waitlisted people. As a fellow waitlisted person, I'm using them to get an idea of how "bad" the situation is, i.e. to curb my expectations about moving to the reservation list at some point. Waitlisted people being overrepresented will make the situation look worse than it is, meaning I'm more likely to be positively surprised than negatively.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    How do you know that waitlist people are overrepresented? The problem with sampling biases is that you don‘t how the estimate is affected.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago

    I only stumbled over these sites after I got put on the waitlist, if I had gotten on the reservation list I probably wouldn't have looked around as much. Assuming I'm not special, that would mean there's some bias towards waitlisted people. But I might be wrong about that, sure

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Managed to get into the queue for a 1TB here in EU, first bit of proper luck I've had with the Valve hardware so far

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Wow, usually I have the worst luck but somehow I landed in the reservation queue. 256GB, EU.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I own three Steam Decks and my account was made when Half Life 2 released. I have been "past" the wait-list on both the Machine and the Frame.

    Like, oh well, but still.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I'm also on the waitlist :(

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Considering the condition of the consumer electronics market right now, I would be surprised if the ratio of signups to available units is anything less than 50:1.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    My cousin and I both got the waitlist.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I got on the reservation list for a friend :) He didn't even get on the wait-list, haha. But he had a smart plan to ask as many friends as possible to sign up and actually two of us were chosen. I am not even interested in Frame, I do have a Steam Deck, but otherwise I'm a console gamer and VR was never fun to me (I tried multiple headsets), I just like pancake games more.

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