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[–] 52 points 1 month ago (17 children)

Imagine Dragons. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is:

They picked up hate for being marketed like they're some kind of super hard rock, even though they're not. But their music is good for the genre it is. The lead singer was raised Mormon, but is now an activist for LGBT youth.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    That thunder song was legitimately terrible.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I didnt know who that was... Now I hate Imagine Dragons.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    I think it was ACDC, and there's a drinking game that goes with it

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago*

    I've got to disagree with this one. Imagine Dragons was synthesized in a lab to be as corporate sounding as possible. The lead singer especially is grating. It's exactly the singing style that Ai would come up with. That's not a random comment, I know because old people show me shitty Ai songs on a regular basis and they sound like Imagine Dragons.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I don't like them because there's no singer, just a guy screaming in an auto tune cranked to 10.

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    I can guarantee with as corporate and overproduced as that shit is they 100% use autotune. When you do it right you can't tell. I use it in my home studio even, most songs use it across all genres.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    It's difficult to autotune screaming and sound that good. As a Windmill scene fan, the problem with Imagine Dragons is not the vocals (the lead has awesome technical abilities); it's the lack of a point.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    what on earth does any of this mean?

    what is a Windmill scene and what do you mean by lack of a pint? like a pint of beer? they would be better if they were drunk?

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    [–] 24 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I'm sure "most hated" has already been covered, so I'll go farther down the list and pick one that's a little hated and IMHO more than "not bad": Crash Test Dummies.

    Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm gets clowned on by people who remember it, but (1) it's pretty good, and (2) CTD's first three albums are full of super catchy folk-pop-rock with decent lyrics. Some of the third album, and then subsequent stuff gets deeper and deeper into Brad Roberts' then-current interests and generally doesn't grab me, but more power to him.

    Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm itself was undoubtedly picked to be sonically polarizing and grab more attention than some of the slightly less "Crash Test Dummyish" tracks.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I’ve never listened to any of their songs besides mmm mmm mmm and I still love it so much. Its a defining part of the 90s for me

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Honestly, I like CTD, but with just a few more songs, Superman's Song, The Ghosts that Haunt Me, and Afternoons & Coffeespoons, you should probably have enough for a lifetime, LOL. Superman's Song may even be vaguely familiar if you were reading comics in those days, as it came out not too long before the (in)famous Death of Superman arc.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I saw them at the Fillmore in mid 1999. They were great live.

    But what really knocked me out was half way through the second set the singer (sorry don't remember his name) walked up to the mic and said "this song has been in our heads all week and now we're gonna put it in yours."

    ...And proceeded to play a flawless cover of Hit Me Baby One More Time. The lead singer even did some of Brittny's moves from the video.

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  • [–] 115 points 1 month ago (25 children)

    Probably Nickelback. I'm no fan, but they seem to get the most hate of anyone just for being mediocre.

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  • [–] 68 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I did a studio session with them about 20 years ago, when they were still pretty popular and before they were widely considered to be a joke, but I was not a fan. When the studio I was working for called me to do the session, my wife said, “Watch - they will end up being really nice guys and you will end up liking them more because of it.” In reality, they were arrogant dickheads, and I hated them all the more ever since.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Really? When i worked with them, they were all really nice guys. Surprised to hear that.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    People at the height of their own popularity tend to be dicks. My mom organized some event with Neil degrasse Tyson during his hay day and said he was pretty insufferable.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    He uhh always has been and still is as far as I'm aware. He talks down to everyone, even the camera. And him tearing apart movies was the most obnoxious thing. We know Neil, we know.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    When I heard him talk about his relationship with Carl Sagan and how he was one of the very few people that were willing to invest time and energy in him as a black man in STEM at the time he made a little more sense to me. I feel like having to fight for it has probably made him a lil crispy around the edges.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    I read somewhere once that their agent would book them at any festival that would accept them. That lead to them getting booed a lot where they didn't match the rest of the lineup. People began to anticipate them and became a heel type character to avid concert goers.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Hating them is a meme I guess. I don't mind them.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I think the whole hating on Nickelback started with people who thought Nickelback was the best band in the world. They're like the most average band in the world. They're not bad, but they aren't particularly good either.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    For me it's "Photograph." Such an aggressively sappy and mediocre song. Every time I hear it, it reminds me of an essay I would have written on the bus on the way to school in 6th grade.

    I kind of like "Never Again", it's a bit heavy-handed but it's got crunchy guitar and the message is good, don't put up with abusive shit.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Comedy Central destroyed Nickleback. There was a comedy special or show, I don't remember. Anyway, they promoted the show with a clip from a stand-up bit that was at Nickleback's expense. I you watched The Daily Show, or South Park, you would have seen that ad a hundred times. After that, liking Nickleback was an embarrassment.

    What follows is my bad recollection of the joke.

    People say that music can incite violence and I think that's true because every time I listen to Nickleback I want to hurt.... Nickleback.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I remember that, and this is accurate. Thing is, Brian Poesehn is famously a hard core heavy metal fan, and seems to judgementally hate anything but what he personally likes, so Nickelback got taken down by a guy with questionable taste.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    and like, they're not even that bad

    Foo Fighters, for some reason, are fucking loved, and yet if you actually listen to their albums, they're just... meh

    they got a few good songs and a lot of things I never want to hear again. and that's coming from someone whose favourite band was them for a very long time. not to mention they sound like shit live

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    It's really more the generation that came up thinking Nickleback (and post grunge bands in general) was peak hard rock/grunge/punk or even edgy that's to blame. Nickelback themselves are fine, there's nothing inherently wrong with wanting to have a wide audience for your pop rock band but some semblance of hardness in your sound.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago

    Lars Ulrich of Metallica is I think the most hated metal musician today, with the Napster case and his recent performances which are way too snare-heavy if you ask me (some would use the word "lazy").

    But the large majority of the metal scene acts as if he was the worst drummer ever, which is obviously not the case. If you go and listen to Metallica's 80s and early 90s stuff, including bootlegs of live performances, this drummer is more than capable, but he also invented a lot of fills and patterns that came to be used prominently by others, like Mike Portnoy.

    So I'm not saying this in defense of the guy - don't know him personally - but that's a blatant case of people not listening with their ears if you ask me...

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Smash Mouth wound up getting overplayed with "All Star", but their debut Fush Yu Mang is excellent. Way better than you'd expect, and it's worth a listen if just for their first radio hit, "Walkin On The Sun".

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    That album definitely doesn't get enough credit. It's got some surprisingly heavy-hitting songs. Nervous in the Alley? The Fonz? Let's Rock?

    It's crazy to me how many commercials used Walking on the Sun for the "So don't delay, act now, supplies are running out" line, considering the broader context of the song.

    I was definitely too young to understand most of those songs as a kid.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    TBh I loved Astro Lounge (the album that All Star is on). The rest of the album is quite good despite the wearing out of its most famous track.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Currently Imagine Dragons. But I remember when Nickleback also was the butt of many jokes despite not being a terrible band.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    There’s hate for imagine dragons? Or is it just the same Nickelback “ok, but not exciting” hate?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    It sure as hell feels like manufactured hate than real hate. With Nickleback, I only ever started seeing people making fun of them after an episode of South Park (iirc) made fun of them, which just made every one of those jokes posted by a user online seem like they just wanted to copy the show and get some laughs. It feels exactly the same when I see memes hating on Imagine Dragons.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (20 children)

    Ghost comes to mind. I’ve never had a problem with them and a lot of their songs I think are pretty good. Seems like they get shit on a lot though.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I can’t listen to Ghost because someone said they sounded like Scooby-Doo chase music.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Have anything to read about them? Never even heard of them

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    Gotcha. Ghost is a metal pop concept band, where the front man is an ongoing chain of satanic antipopes (while still being the same dude in face paint). Only they are all really bad at converting the world to Satan worship on account of doing the actual work is no fun, and what's the point of being the satanic antipope if you aren't gonna have fun.

    Sounds great! Only... Metalheads are like "this isn't metal" and they're kinda right. Its pop music, but metal and satanic.

    Also, the front man may have fucked over his bandmates, or maybe not, depends really. I'm inclined to say his behavior may have been shitty, but that's something you should work out beforehand.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    As a metal head, I didn't understand Ghost for the longest time. I didn't hate it, but "this isn't metal" was my exact thought, lol. Took me a few tries before I finally thought they were "okay". Then I went to see them live, and now they're probably in my top 15 bands.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    A lot of fellow metal heads out there don't like it when music is fun enough to be enjoyed by people who don't keep a closet full of long-sleeved band shirts. A couple years ago I ran into an old coworker at a Fleshgod Apocalypse show and they got angry when I asked if they were interested in tagging along to an upcoming Dethklok show.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I love that it sounds like dark 80s pop. I have a friend that I told square hammer was about Freemasonry because he's a mason. Took like 2 years of listening to it before he really caught the lyrics.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    At least in the thrash scene, Anthrax gets shit on a lot for being part of the Big 4, however I fucking love them, even though they had a period where every release was dogshit. Their early stuff is peak thrash, which is good because nowadays they mainly stick to playing their early stuff. Still deserving of their position. Though sometimes I wonder if it should be a Big 5, including Exodus, who were one of the first.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Anthrax has some really great stuff. But as you said, you have too tread carefully through their catalog. When they are good, they are amazing... When they are bad, they are really bad.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlLn0UicWrM

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Totally agree.

    Top comment on the vid hits the nail on the head.: "Big 4 summary Slayer: Fastest and Heaviest Megadeth: Most technical Metallica: Largest impact Anthrax: Thrash that makes you want to grab a beer and have a party."

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Years ago I went to the Slayer farewell tour. There were a lot of bands that I had wanted to see for a long time: Testament, Behemoth, Lamb of God, and Anthrax.

    In my opinion, Anthrax stole the show. I hadn't listened to them much before that show, but on my way back home I played a lot from their catalog and realized I had been missing out.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Anthrax get shit on for being silly as fuck and making cheesy ass Thrash, and I love Anthrax.

    It should always have been Exodus.

    Also, fuck the big 4. There's so much incredibly good thrash from then and right now that gets ignored for these overhyped dildos.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Agreed. However the big 4 was never about the "best 4" bands, it was the "bestselling 4" or "gateway bands". They should have been treat as the 4 bands to start out with, however people seem to think they are the best bands and therefore there is no point listening to other thrash🙄. Which couldn't be further from the truth.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago

    Nickelback hate was pretty bad but got better I feel. Animals is a banger.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Moby. Play is a great album and I play that shit at least once a year.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    There's a fun heavyweights podcast episode about Moby's childhood friend who lent him the Folkways album boxed set, which Moby used to make Play, and never gave it back :p

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    That was the soundtrack to my uni years. It got old after a bit as it was pretty much ubiquitous, but I listened recently and really enjoyed it.

    I remember my roommate said they should rename the album from 'Play' to 'Songs for Adverts', as it seemed like every commercial used a track from it at one point, which probably didn't help the overplayed criticism.

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