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[–] 98 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I travelled to the future and it didn’t happen btw

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  • [–] 57 points 1 month ago

    Weren’t we supposed to get huuuuge tariff rebate checks as well…so yah…this isn’t happening. Smells like desperation.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I've spoken to multiple conservatives who believe this man is "saving America from socialism."

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I know it sounds stupid to a lot of people here, but I do think this is a potentially winning angle with a lot of voters. People have been trained for decades to believe that socialism is equivalent to Soviet style communism and that once you start down the path, there’s no turning back.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Illegal election tampering. Impeach.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Or Trump agrees to add $1.7T to the National Debt if Republicans elected.

    But this is what will really happen

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  • [–] 31 points 1 month ago (25 children)
  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    “You’ve made your ruling, let’s see you enforce it”

    Where does political power come from?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)
  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    As Congress has chosen to allow the President to exert Congressional power, so We the People, with the assistance of decades of fascist propaganda, have allowed the oligarchs to exert... Peoplenal? power. Shaddup, lemme have that one, okay? But seriously, the power of the people is in the hands of the oligarchs.

    Unless we take it back.

    But a third of us actively have chosen to depart from reality, logic, sanity; another third are too poor and tired to care, and the last third have enough energy to vote but that's about it.

    So basically, we're fucked.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (17 children)

    but... it's a "dividend". uh huh, never will pay out regardless

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (16 children)

    Doesn't matter if you pay or not the attempt to sway votes with gifts, prizes or money is specifically illegal.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Theoretical illegality loses to practical unenforcement every time.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    No one had to enforce anything. The international community is what matters and they don't enforce that they just judge you by it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    They didn't properly for decades, but I guess they have finally caught up. Not that their judgment has helped any, mind.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    We're losing gdp hand over fist, losing trade deals, getting pushed out as the oil currency, multiple countries have already divested their good reserves from us shores. We are losing in every single measurable metric so yes it has helped.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (9 children)

    Of course, but you'd need to be missing part of your brain to ever think he WOULD pay. Also, what is illegal for a working yank is not illegal for the epstien class

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Doesn't matter, it calls to question the legitimacy of the election and no international body that isn't directly corrupt would accept them as legit leadership.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (5 children)

    ... I've got some bad news for you, friend.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    ... so you think other nations are going to stop interacting with the United States if the US legislature is installed via bribery and corruption?

    Has that happened for any other country? Let's look at the 2025 Corruption Perceptions Index list, and you tell me which countries are getting kicked out of the UN or cut off from international diplomacy.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (2 children)

    No one said that.

    No one is getting kicked out or cut off. Please point to where I said or implied that.

    You can read into it wherever you'd like to fit your ideology but losing trust isn't just getting kicked out of shit it's losing deals and getting trade reduced because you can't be trusted which I might add is already happening. Soft power matters and this administration should be learning that lesson but they almost certainly will not and it's going to cost us in his phrasing "bigly".

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    You said:

    no international body that isn't directly corrupt would accept them as legit leadership

    If other nations are still interacting with, conducting diplomacy with, and trading with that administration, they are accepting the leadership as legitimate. They are not running around the back to deal with or support an opposition leadership; they are accepting the results of the election as presented. That is directly in conflict with the point you put forth.

    Trade is being reduced, soft power is drying up, but that is specifically because the current administration is accepted as legitimate. Everyone in the world is agreeing on who is in charge in the US, and they're pulling back as a result, but there's no circumstance where nations stop accepting Trump as the leader of the US based on the results of the midterms. Which, to your definition, makes all of those nations corrupt as well.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

    What would be nice is if this very illegal offer was actually investigated and prosecuted.

    Edit:

    After I thought about this for a minute it’s not much different then:

    • “Elect us and we’ll cut your taxes by $5,000.”
    • “Vote for us and we’ll cancel $10,000 in student debt.”
    • “Give us Congress and we’ll increase Social Security benefits.”

    But I guess coming from him everything seems illegal and grifty.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Investigated? Prosecuted? Yea, and like his felonies, at the end they’ll say he’s not gunna be punished in case that makes his job of being a super criminal while in charge of that country difficult.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago

    How about if he just stops fucking kids and protecting his kid-fucking cartel?

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago

    They'll get it right alongside their DOGE checks. Which are coming any day now. Believe me.

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  • [–] 70 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Didn't he also say we'd get tariff rebate checks?

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  • [–] 42 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Don't forget the DOGE checks...

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    By "we", he probably meant corporations. Not sure if any corporations effectively got "DOGE" checks, but they got tariff checks.

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/05/economy/companies-got-tariff-refunds-wheres-your-cut

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    That was effectively forced by the supreme Court, not the administration. Administration planned to keep the money.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Fair enough, although it would not surprise me if at least someone in his admin thought that, at worst, the corporations would get the benefit, if donnie's accomplices were not able to get away with this aspect of their smash-and-grab agenda, and hell, that's part of the conservative schemes - benefiting corporations over people.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    A classic anti-democratic and anti-socialist right wing argument is that people vote for the left because the left promises them government benefits.

    Mitt Romney :

    "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president [Obama] no matter what... who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it... My job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago

    The check is always in the mail with this guy.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    Trump is a lying sack of shit.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Democrats should counter that they’ll pay double whatever the Republicans pledge (min $10k, max $30k), paid entirely by a wealth tax on assets over $1 billion if they win a filibuster-proof supermajority.

    Billionaires actually have enough assets to get to $30.6k per person, so Democrats wouldn’t even have to tax their assets above $1 billion at 100% to get there.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    Republicans when talking about min wage: "We can't give out money, or else inflation happens, learn something!"

    Republicans when voting comes up: "HAVE FREE MONEY!"

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Assuming there are about 250M adults in the US, $5K for everyone would ring up a bill of at least $1.25T. Im sure the party of no handouts and fiscal responsibility did this math though.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    I've heard you don't always pay your debts. I'll take mine in advance please.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Trump is the most predictable human to ever have lived because if he’s speaking you can be sure he’s not telling the truth. It’s a 100% guarantee.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    well, there was that one time recently where he admitted that he was building his own monuments now because "Nobody will do it once I’m gone. When I leave here, nobody will."

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    A promise from the always does lies man!

    Also, you've spent that and more on lost savings, higher gas, groceries, restaurants, fucking everything he broke.

    Shoots you in the toe, cuts off both feet and then announces, "if you keep me around, everyone gets a single shoe!"

    And if you're a loyal cult member all this time, do you have any issue with the gate here? Like... Why isn't he just giving you $5k today, or for the last election and and all the fascism you enabled? Almost sounds like he's full of shit and only a moron would believe anything he says.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Why don't they just give it now? They control all 3 branches.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Another MAGA IQ test.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'm sad there are no repercussions. This shouldn't be allowed. Its not okay. Even saying it isn't okay.

    Election meddling isn't okay.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    Oh another morality test for America, the last one was " will you vote for a corrupt rapist who has proven they are bad for the country, or a woman". This one is " knowing exactly how fucked everything you care about will become, will you still vote for it if a corrupt liar says they will give you money that they literally cannot give you"

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    Make it $10K, and I'll consider it, but I want 50% up front.

    (Fuck this treasonous pedophile, I'll take his money, and still vote for the most Commie candidates I can find)

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    What a dam jackass. Why doesn't he just say we'll all get ponies and hot pants while he's at it?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    It's a low-ball figure. $5000 would last us about a month. Rent, Utilities, Food & more, it all adds up. The election is for a period of 24 months, not 1 month. A reasonable monetary figure that isn't a lowball would be $120,000 ---> $5000 a month for 24 months.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Wait.a.minute that sure sounds like UBI, ya filthy (animal) socialist! ;-)

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Free IVF for everyone!

    Remember that promise too?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    I have people in my family that said they voted for him in 2016 because they thought he was going to make childcare free or something. I tried to explain that not only is that not a conservative thing, but also that he's a total fraud.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I'm in the market for a new roof and was looking into metal vs tiles. I expected the former to cost more but the price difference was insane. The roofer explained that the tariff war is to blame. As it stands, even if I got a 5 grand rebate on metal, it would still not cancel out the tariff. Of course, as a Canadian, the thought exercise is moot, but I wouldn't be surprised if my American counterparts are crunching similar numbers.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    No reason to crunch numbers anyway. He also said everyone would get a check in the mail from savings generated by DOGE early in the admin. Guess what happened with those.

    Anyone still believing this man will believe anything from absolutely anyone. There is no other explanation.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I had a guy re-shingle my whole roof for $5k. And it's a 1800 sq ft home. American dollars. This was in 2023. He did the whole thing himself in one week with a helper feeding him materials and cleaning up behind him.

    Has held up great.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago*

    So, socialism? (From those vehemently opposed to it)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    At this point he might as well make it $50k

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    on the one hand this is stupid, on the other hand he was elected by stupid people, so upon reflection it will probably work as a motivation.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Make it 20k and we'll talk.

    I think at this point I'm open to bribes

    Edit: 20k is my estimate on what it would take to leave the country.

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