AFAIK they're only targeting their flagship models first. Guess we'll see, but I don't think the Moto G series will get it. At least not initially.

iirc, as of right now, its only the expensive processors that meet the security standards GrapheneOS has. Therefore only being available in the future high-end Motorola phones.

What are the odds that it filters down?

I'll pick up a cheap android and put Lineage on it before I buy another flagship phone.

Exactly. Graphene is not for the poors, still. Even used phones that can run it can be pricey.

I got a deal on a new 9 from my carrier for $5 a month for 24 months.

$120 CAD.

But, in canada, the phones come carrier unlocked and had no issue flashing it. Though i only ever powered it on once before it was flashed - to turn on oem unlocking. The sim was not used until then. So it didn't do any auto downloads that might have caused a problem.

Long short: you can find them cheap if you look.

I was looking at the lowest end pixel for Graphene (Pixel 7) and they are still nearly $400 on the aftermarket. It’s insane.

Yeah, there are very few cases that would make me fork hundreds of Euros for a frigging phone.

Yeah the signature phones cost around $1.500 here in my country, my budget is $400 tops, no way I can afford that, my hopes are lost.

Will this affect graphene os?

yeah i need my banking, only thing stopping me from using a non-googled phone. everything else can fuck off

I'm pretty sure this is wrong. Like obviously it's a bad thing that they are making it harder to distribute apps through 3rd parties but they aren't stopping you from sideloading unsigned apps. They are introducing an additional step to unlock your phone to allow unsigned apps. Yes it is annoying and no I do not agree with what they are doing. But they are not removing unsigned app support from all android devices.

The new step will be deciding how long you wish to allow unsigned apps to be installable on your device (either 7 days or indefinitely) and then it requires you to wait 24 hours before you can start to install apps without Google developer signing.

These rules do suck, and it is a bad thing, but lying or exaggerating what is happening will not make them reverse course. It only justifies them when they say "it's not that bad and it's for your protection."

My impression from the article is that the Motorola phones ship with default Android, but flashing to GrapheneOS is officially supported. So it would only be people who would be flashing GrapheneOS anyway.

I guess aosp needs more open source love what with Google treating it like a bastard step child

Motorola should be able to lead them into the right direction for this. Moto controls their own drivers and while i don't know, i don't expect they're using stock android camera, they can probably just provide the camera app to graphene

There are some really talented people working on the camera systems for Apple and Google etc. what I don’t get is surely there are some equally talented engineers (in image processing) who love open source so why aren’t they working on an open source camera platform?

It seems an itch that’s not getting scratched.

And I still believe in having a curated primary digital fingerprint.

Could you please elaborate? I know what digital footprint is, minimizing and compartmentalization techniques, but not primary and curated digital footprint.

You could still buy a second hand pixel series a.

You could probably find something under 300€ with 5-6 years of updates left if you seek for a pixel 9a.

On lower end you could go with lineageos, it's not as good as graphere but it's good enough IMO

I'd bet that about half the price is just the RAM soldered onto the thing

I think the foldables are all somewhere along those lines. New tech, and double the screen and such adds up.

I don't care that much about size. Not nearly as much as the "flagship" designation bullshit. How about we don't have to pay 5x as much, because it's a flagship and still let us have Graphene?

Yep. Sick of giant phones. Crazy hard to find a small phone with decent specs.

Please ALSO make a giant 7" one, Moto. Thank you!

6 inches is gigantic?

That's what I have and it doesn't feel quite big enough. Close but not quite.

Never once thought it felt too big in my hand or my pocket...

This isn't a brick wall TV interview.

The 2027 models will likely be flagship only however Graphene has tweeted that they plan to support cheaper Motorola phones in the future.

They didn't specifically disregard budget phones. The budget phones just won't have the hardware required to meet GrapheneOS requirements. They've states that as the next gen flagship hardware trickles down to the budget phones, there'll be more options.

These flagship motorola phones are all way over 1000€

Yes. And now it's not going down. See, the corporation cannot make any money off of ads and analytics if there are none.

they didn't abandon pixels though. they just take a little extra time because they have to manually update the old device trees now.