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Motorola's 2027 flagships will officially support GrapheneOS (www.gsmarena.com)
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[–] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

They didn't specifically disregard budget phones. The budget phones just won't have the hardware required to meet GrapheneOS requirements. They've states that as the next gen flagship hardware trickles down to the budget phones, there'll be more options.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I keep hearing this thing about the necessary hardware.

    What is this exotic piece of hardware that the GrapheneOS needs? Please, someone tell me what it is.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Searching would probably have been quicker than commenting :)

    https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    (nothing I am about to say is necessarily personal; I am genuinely grateful for the link!)

    Is there a table of these requirements as columns and vendors as rows?

    I think most of this list is acquired by having a modern CPU or SoC, no?

    Much of the list is software requirements.

    There is one item that sticks out:

    • Support for disabling USB data and also USB as a whole at a hardware level in the USB controller

    Just how much of the hardware list is satisfied by say having a Snapdragon SoC?

    I would prefer if people said such and such vendor is missing such and such feature which we need. Always NAME the SPECIFICS. A link to a web page with the exact specifics missing for the most popular phones would help, imo. This is clear and educational. Instead we get "they don't got no good hardware maaaan." It's annoying. Looks handwavy even when it is not.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I haven't seem anyone respond in the way you're complaining about.

    There's a long list of requirements, with a big one being hardware memory tagging.

    https://www.techtimes.com/articles/325679/20260826/grapheneos-expands-motorola-better-snapdragon-radio-isolation-google-pixel.htm

    The Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 — the chip inside the 2026 Motorola Signature — introduced MTE support, but only in the Elite variant. The Foundation has characterized MTE in the non-Elite Snapdragon 8 Gen 5 as effectively broken for GrapheneOS's purposes. This is why even Motorola's current flagship lineup cannot qualify: the chip is close but the specific hardware feature GrapheneOS treats as non-negotiable is not reliably present across the Snapdragon lineup.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I understand the annoyance of just having the list of requirements without having vendors, models, etc as it puts the burden of effort on the reader.

    On the flip side, the list would be crazy and more work for the devs, plus the definition of "most popular phones". Having that list would be informative but I don't know that it would be that helpful considering it wouldn't make a difference with regards to the devices that Graphene supports?

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