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[–] 3 points 2 months ago

@pete_link another lunatic propped by religion and empowered by genocidal criminals. We're currently the same species everywhere on the planet. But some pretend, for obvious murderous reasons,that those they wish to destroy to extinction to plunder their homes and land, aren't. So their propaganda aims to dehumanize the victims of their greed and hatred. Religion gives a hand even if some brands do not support the abomination.

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    [–] 78 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    So Israel has fully adopted Nazi german way of thinking.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    Who would have thought that the lesson they would take from the Holocaust would be "Pay It Forward?"

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  • [–] 53 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    For nazi Germany jews, wasn't this not even the start of the holocaust, but several steps in. Like, 5-7 years into holocaust before the nazis just dropped the act of jews having any resemblance of rights and just declared them as 'not people' and fully stripped them of everything.

    And these are the same people who March the streets preaching 'never again!'

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  • [–] 43 points 2 months ago

    Yea they learned a different “never again”.

    When I learned in Germany (school) that this can never happen again it included ALL humans, not only Jewish people. I guess this is because I didn’t grow up religiously.

    They learned “never again” exclusively for Jews.

    They are doing what nazis did: systematic destruction of humans they deem problematic.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 months ago

    Nazi Nation

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago

    Sounds like something the Nazis said about the Jews

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    Sounds like something Hitler would say.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    OK, I don't think he is a person.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    sorry a gay wesleyan student hit me over the head with his meinkampf intersectionality edition, I am now super hitler (woke) /j (but on a serious note, this is what Israel defenders think I am)

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    If you DONT Believe a Certain group of People are NOT Humans with NO Rights your ANTI SEMETIC!

    -Hitler! Israelis!

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago

    It wasn't so long ago that someone else was calling all of the Jews and rabbi types animals and less than human. Those someone's wanted to kill every last one of them! What a fliperoo! Is this opposite year?

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not a Rabbi, but I say he has no rights either. There, now everyone is even.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    They are the chosen people

    On the other hand it's only the believe of ultra-ortodox jews and zionists, misinterpreting the Torah in own interests, like islamists do with the Islam or the KKK with christianity. Some years ago we had an ultra-ortodox jew in a Forum, well, worse as discuting with an taliban, horrible, not nazi, the next one.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    Hm, sounds very familiar.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    There’s been fifteen years or so, when I was chatting with a Israel chick who told me they need to make final solution for arabs people and kill them all. When I told her that she sounds like a nazi, she got mad, cursed me and claimed there’s nothing wrong with her opinion. She then blocked me but I wasn’t worried about that. I never forget her saying, it was unbelievable. But she makes me to change my perceptions about Israel.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    These kinda comments always fuck with me. Were you not paying attention? Is this some sort of pride in not paying attention? I'm 35 and noticed it was happening while I was in high school, why did it take you until a year or two ago to notice what was happening the entire time?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Why would you think being jewish is some kind of opposite of being a fascist?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    That would be a pretty silly thing to think and demonstrates a very surface level understanding of the holocaust, Nazi Germany and the foundation of Israel. Though I can't really blame you or others that think that same way, Israel has worked diligently to turn the Holocaust into a moral shield for everything they do. So that people make the same assumption you do.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    How is Israel not guilty of genocide again?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    I maintain he's a cunt.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    The nazis said the same about you. So either the nazis were right, or both you and the nazis were wrong. Take your pick you fascist rabbi fuck.

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    The poison here is zionism, what are you talking about

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    Remove all you want, religion is a mental health issue and BY FAR the largest threat facing humanity.

    We will never be a decent species with this aberration among us.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    So he's Democrats' 2028 nominee, then?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    True Man O’God!

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago

    Fuck religion.

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    [–] 93 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Isn't that what the Nazis said about the jews? Funny how history keeps repeating itself.

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  • [–] 63 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    ah so in 1930's Germany when they said the same thing about you now you're just thinking "you know what? they were on to something".

    they're unable to punch up, so they punch down.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Funny, it's not up to other people to decide what is or isn't "a people".

    _____ are not people or ______ are not a people reference to any group of human beings.....that is a 100% foolproof way to identify an evil person. If they say it, they're evil. Period.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Do you think people that say things like "Israelis are not a people" are evil?

    If so, you might find there are a lot of evil people around in these parts.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    There can in fact be many evil people and sometimes they turn against each other. Not every conflict has a right and wrong side, sometimes it's all wrong

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Yup, the trick is to not get pulled into the hatred. A lot of people have gotten sucked into it and direct hatred towards anyone they see as "evil" and therefore not people. And the number of people targeted by that hatred keeps on growing.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Yes, which is why in any conflict that has been ongoing this long, it's critical to look at the structural balance of power. When one side has fighter planes and missiles and tanks and the backing of the largest military, and the other has small arms and homemade unguided rockets, the equivalency of their rhetoric is not as important as their ability to act on it.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago

    Well, that's utterly unsurprising

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago

    Disgusting. And our tax money is going to fund that genocide (if you're American).

    We don't get sick leave, medical, decent living... Nah we get our money sent off to murder innocent people.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago

    "Have we not all one Father? Hath not one God created us? Why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, profaning the covenant of our fathers?" — Malachi 2:10

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Republicans say (liberals, trans, gay, etc) are not people and have no rights.

    Rich people say poor people aren’t people and have no rights.

    Starting to detect a theme, here.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    How could you be a man and say another man is not a man

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    I was just working for a very Jewish woman a couple days ago. We were walking to another house down the street in a Jewish community. She seemed like she made it a point to be listening to a pro zionist YouTube channel or the like on full volume talking about how the Palestinians were violent people who were attacking themselves. It was really weird. It was definitely something interesting listening to the other side of the argument for a few minutes. I didnt realize there was so much rhetoric for the subjugation of a whole other people. This whole situation is fucked up.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    And if you criticize this you're antisemitic

    The biggest drivers of anti semitism right now are Israel, the IDF, Jewish organizations and people like this turd who shit on Palestinians as being untermensch

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    So, untermenschen.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago*

    It will be entertaining watching the Western governments to continue to attempt to support this. In a horror movie kind of way.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    And here I thought the corrupt Bibi government was to blame for the genocide. Now it's the Rabbis, too? Sickening.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Is he not like, the worlds most prominent leader on Judaism with the largest following?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    They think palestinians arent people, we beleive all men are created equal.

    Well Civ5 taught me thats more than enough to go to war with isreal.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago*

    They have never been a people and have no rights. The rights are ours. We say these things unequivocally.

    Chief Rabbi of Israel

    Fucking hell. What I find so bleak is that Israel’s civil society is so muted. Say what you will about the shitshow of the US but there would be tangible outrage by prominent voices if something like this was said in 2026 about say indigenous americans or greenland or whatever. Meanwhile so much of Israel seems to have fallen in line. It’s terrifying.

    Of course there are plenty of people in Israel against this, but they are muted, have little reach or are silenced, there is so little noise with reach against this.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Well, then. He's a cunt.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Is there anything to save in Israel ? I hear there's a left, but what are they doing ? are they such a very small minority, is the media so bought-out that we seldom hear about them ?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    Perhaps if they didn't have had neighboring enemies that unambiguously want to destroy Israel for about 80 years straight, they wouldn't have to be that way.

    It's obviously a reasonable question to ask: why the fuck did you put your country in middle of several hornet nests like that? What does it matter that some ancestors of yours lived there 3000 years ago? Some religious bullshit probably.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Humans are just that naturaly evil, if a whole nation can fall, then it's time to look into if the voluntary extinction movement had a point.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Humans aren't naturally evil, but they can be easily exploited and manipulated in service of their egos.

    There's a community of bonobo monkeys that has a society of matriarchs and they have a largely non-violent and commual society where violent males are dealt with and exiled. That's the issue, the violent males in society need to be exiled and deplatformed. None of this manosphere shit. At the end of the day, we're all just primates.

    https://drctourism.com/travel-blog/matriarchal-bonobo-society

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Please, we have to analyze things more nuancely than that. A virtuous, respectful human world is something that needs to be maintained, it's not ever going to be a given- but even if it seems impossible at times shouldn't be enough to deter us.

    I didn't want to suggest than the whole of human society was a lost cause, or even Israel. I was wondering what proportion of their population the left makes up.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    My only hope is that I can at least start something with a local community centered around helping people achieve self-sufficiency. The idea is that people are kind of inherently well, abusive, and exploitative of each other, and making them self-sufficient would solve most of the issue and render work redundant eventually.

    It would also conveniently put the abusive/exploitative kind of people in an inconvenient position, as they depend on you not having food, clothing, medicine in order to exploit you, force you to behave in whatever sick way they require of you.

    You can't exploit yourself, and you can pick people who you get along with to hang out with, once there is no material incentive in the way.

    This can quietly depower entire governments if it goes far enough (it won't, but whatever), would leave the most rich and powerful much poorer, would improve the behavior of people in general, if they could feel comfortable being unemployed, and tell an unreasonable employer to sod off. The rat race does dehumanize people, and turn them into monsters.

    That is basically the thesis and goal.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    I agree. I think the most in your face example of this is blackmailing US citizens into signing for the army so they can get access to basic freedoms. With UBI and healthcare, the scheme would absolutely crumble

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    Or, in Wright's voice:

    PROJECTION!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    zionist gonna nazi.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    and when benjamin conscripts you to war, you were protesting. but you were war hawks.

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    [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    Isn’t that what the Nazis said about Jewish people? Israel forgot their own history

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