"God please let GTA 6 be a massive flop it would be so fucking funny."

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[–] 80 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Like CoD and sports games, they will sell well even if they're shit.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Streamers are best friends with AAA devs. Streamers encourage this crap and play innocent/hostile when called out for it. Gamers are willing participants because they'll give them views on YT or bits on Twitch as a reward for supporting the very industry both parties bitch about.

    It's one of the reasons I don't consider myself a gamer anymore.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Gaming is just more spread out than ever before.

    In my last job at one point we had a team where everyone played games and most of us had barely even heard of the games anyone else played.

    One plays fighting games, another plays the latest AAA games, I largely play small indie games.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I think flop is impossible, but shitshow and disappointment? Now that seems pretty likely.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    It costed many billions to build, so it has to sell a lot to make a profit.

    Some games are successful with millions in sale, but that won't be even close to GTA 6, so it can sell billions and still flop for them

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  • [–] 43 points 2 months ago* (1 child)
  • [–] 37 points 2 months ago* (14 children)

    I am done with giant open world games. Data point of one but my current preference is shorter, much more narrowly scoped games.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    How could you not enjoy running across the map for 20 min for a 2 min fetch quest and then going back another 20 min to another part of the map to speak to the person who gives you the reward? Don't you like commuting?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    My roommate still plays GTA5 and all she does is sit online and gamble in the casino. She plays in the living room for hours just to grind a new car only to use the same 2 motorcycles or some new missions she won't play.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    My current preference is games that have a requirement like "graphics card (optional)"

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  • [–] 133 points 2 months ago (35 children)

    The old Rockstar is dead. Ppl r gonna preorder GTA anyways and defend the company when they get a broken/unfinished product on day one, claiming it can be fixed in the future with updates. Look at cyberpunk 2077 and no mans land.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Except 2077 was fixed. This won't be.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Look at two games that show games can indeed be fixed with updates?

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  • [+] -12 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    A polished turd is still a turd.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

    They're both very well received games and the two clearest examples of games actually get fixed properly after a disastrous release.

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  • [+] -12 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Well received by the niche audience that continued to play it. Never touched again by the majority of all the others.

    I remember buying it and refunding it because of all the lies. Not even small lies. Massive lies that completely changed what the game was.

    Recent reviews are good, but that's this little thing called selection bias. As evidenced by many people in these comments they gave the game a second chance and it was still crap.

    There have been indie games that have released something closer to the marketing lie NMS originally attempted to market.

    I never played cyberpunk, but all I've ever heard about it was how boring and unoriginal the story was.

    Celebrating them fixing something that should have been delayed when the end result is still boring really explains why the game industry is where it is.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    No man's sky had a bit over 200k peak online players on release in 2016. Over 100k peak for the anniversary release in 2025 and constantly gets 10k players even now.

    Cyberpunk got 274k peak online players for the release of 2.0 3 years after the original release and 60k daily players even now.

    Those are great numbers for single player games so I don't know what you're on about.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You don't know what "niche audience" means if you think these two games sold and are played by similar audiences as, say, Anno games.

    You've also got selection bias twisted considering you're using it to say a few comments in here must represent the truth because they say something you like.

    What you heard about Cyberpunk must be from some real haters because, of all the things you could accuse about its story, boring and unoriginal are not it.

    If anything here explains the state of anything, it's how easily gamers will believe nonsense as long as it fits their preconceived notions and gets their anger up.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    The few comments I'm talking about here represent the majority of players that refunded the game and never returned. That's the majority. Then when updates came out, they either didn't care (which is the correct response when a company lies) or they watched a video to learn about the updates and weren't impressed.

    The people buying into the game, which mind you is still not what they completely marketed it as, are just as much to blame as the people that buy shitty AAA games all the time and give these companies money so they can release more crap.

    The company behind NMS are releasing a new game. There are just as many people that say "fuck that lying company" as there are people existed for the next batch of lies.

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  • Games can definitely be fixed post launch. Fallout New Vegas was a broken mess, but now it's the most beloved 3D Fallout game and people don't even bring it up in this conversation. With enough ambition, quality, and room to improve underneath the technical issues, games can and have been brought back from from being beta releases.

    On the other hand, Rockstar's schemes aren't guaranteed to pay off. RDR2 had a well received single player, but the online mode was an absolute failure compared to GTA Online. Given how people have less disposable income and advanced gaming hardware, GTA 6 might be too much too late. I doubt it'll be a flop, but I also doubt it'll have the success of GTA 5.

    I also don't see it having the same relevance in a post culture war era. Even if it plays things relatively safe, it will still be seen as too woke by the right, and too capitalist coded by the left. The liberal center isn't an all encompassing hegemon like it once was, and that's really who the game is made for.

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  • [+] 16 points 2 months ago (20 children)
  • [–] 48 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    It's a good thing opinions are subjective, and individual to the person. Fwiw, my opinion differs completely. I really enjoyed it on launch, but left it after I'd built a ship, seen a few planets and completed the ten part Atlas storyline. Of course that was 100% of the features on launch. The game's features are colossal now

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It's as broad as an ocean, but as deep as a puddle. I'm glad people enjoy it, but I couldn't. The planets aren't interesting, because you know there can't be anything unique anywhere with the proc gen (there are some more rare planet types, but even those aren't very interesting). This basically means the big selling point of the game, the exploration, isn't worth doing. The crafting and base building are just a grind. Flying is really boring with too many guardrails. An interesting game requires the ability to make mistakes and fail, in my opinion, and they're scared to let that happen.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    That's every survival game with procedural generated maps.

    My problem with the game is that Elite Dangerous flying is so good that I cant stand 2 min of flying in NMS

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Most of them, yeah. There are a handful that get it right, but they're fighting an uphill battle. Yeah, E:D, and other space sims, totally ruin NMS and Starfield for me. I think the only people who enjoy them have never played a space sim before. It feels like they should be targeting people who like the genre, but they're bad examples of it so it's actually a negative.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    Sadly true. I jump in every few years. Make a new character, do the run, do the new stuff, do the current season. It’s all still the same just with more.

    CP2077 on the other hand did it. I never had an issue at launch like the loud groups did. But I appreciate the work, the qol updates, and the expansion. They did turn that game around … but again, I didn’t see the initial problems anyways …

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    You clearly didn't make the mistake of getting it on PS4. Waiting a couple years and trying it on pc was entirely night and day

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    For Cyberpunk, I’m a pc player through and through. But I had friends with better hardware that encountered a lot of issues too. I guess I just got lucky. And I’m happy I did tbh. The game world (cyberpunk genre inclusive) means so much to me.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I didn't have a great pc when it released, but man, they really shoulda nixed the PS4 version, it was not good lol. Either way I just started a new run the other day full reflex katana mode and it's very fun, I'm just glad I gave it a second chance honestly

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    No Man's Sky is pretty great now. But that doesn't mean it's something everyone will enjoy.

    I don't particularly enjoy it myself, but that's because open world survival and crafting is something I realized I like in theory, but don't actually enjoy playing.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago

    Its serviceable. A lot of it is shallow, finding new creatures, new planets often makes you see the same thing youve already seen with the details changed a bit. But some places genuinely felt special - Ive seen a worm the size of my frigate once, and only once. That's the kind of weird shit I want in every exploration game. The story I expected to be an afterthought, but damn, its straight up pretty decent. Can't speak for any of the people who supported the kickstarter, it really sucked for them and they have a right to not be satisfied, but I absolutely got a very enjoyable experience out of it. There are better games that I enjoyed much much less

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Sorry, but you're out of your mind. No Man's Sky is incredible now. It's not just a matter of being better. It's a matter of the game wasn't anything cost to what they promised and now it's gone far beyond that. The player numbers don't lie, either.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, it’s what they promised, and some more now. That’s just not a game for everyone. It’s a little bit of everything with none of it being well fleshed out because I don’t think they know how to do any one thing specifically well at all. But like, if you’re into that type of game it’s fine? If you’re not, well then of course you’re not gonna like it not every game is for everyone.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I got NMS day one for exactly what it was- just exploring an endless universe, and I loved it for that reason. I understand why all the hate for it, but there are people who genuinely liked it for being a relaxing "do nothing" exploration game. Sure, Hello Games finally fulfilled their promises like adding true multiplayer and missions/expeditions, and that's given me a reason to pick it back up every so often and link up with a friend or two. Even VR was another reason for me to play it for a while again.

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    [–] 29 points 2 months ago

    It'll be good, but it won't be as good as its hyped up to be, because even a game coded by an army of time-travelling future-messiahs from every conceivable dimension couldn't be as good as the hype suggests.

    What you can look forward to is every single content creator even remotely related to digital entertainment talking about how its the best/worst thing ever, dissecting every single plotpoint, getting enraged/excited over every minor update, endless discussions over the price of the mtx that will generate more revenue than a mid-sized countries GDP.

    Even if the game sucks by every objective metric, children and casuals will still throw money at it every chance it gets. The game has to be amazing for me to have any hope.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    I honestly hope somebody leaks it 2 weeks early for free and rockstar just lose a bunch of stock money.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    There is this YouTuber that is like crazy for the game, always talking about it, saying that's going to be the best game of the world, that nothing could go bad, that Rockstar is like some kind of elves making ancient jewelry. I just want to see his completely breakdown if the game is shit.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    After seeing those leak vids it just looks like gtav with slightly better graphics. Watched a scene with dude beating up some people under a bridge and it looked terrible.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    The map is the biggest disappointment. Just like in GTA V, there's next to no reason to visit the upper ⅔rds of the map. I was expecting at least a proper panhandle with some typical southern towns scattered about, not just a 1.5x scaled up version of what we've already been stuck playing for the past 13 years.

    Edit: No Orlando, either. I was really excited to see Rockstar's take on Disney World... They were probably afraid of getting sued. :(

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Timmy Turner you dumbass, just wish for it. Praying? Really?

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The online mode might flop, since part of the success of 5's online mode was that it was so generous and buggy at the start that the initial waves of online players became trillionaires in-game. This allowed subsequent waves to be preyed upon by Rockstar but also boosted by the old timers.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Other than the lack of Free Mode activities, GTA Online was a ton of fun on consoles in the early days (it peaked around the time Sumo came out IMO), but I'm willing to bet it will flop immediately in GTA 6, given how much more monetized it's going to be this time around. I mean it flopped almost instantly on PC with half the monetization, and I don't have a console now, so I have to wait for it to come to PC and hope for the best.

    The only possible saving grace is the fact that the FiveM devs are involved. But I'm not going to hold my breath. They'll probably monetize those servers too.

    (Also I still prefer GTA IV's multiplayer to both GTA Online and FiveM. Cops and Crooks and that game's version of GTA Race were some of the most fun I've ever had in a video game! V nerfed GTA Race so much that they sucked all the fun out of it.)

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    "God, please let Chip Skylark play at my birthday party..."

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    Please no, there's not been a decent one in forever, and people just are so hyped

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    [–] 18 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    I do NOT understand the hype.

    The last one was pretty good but nothing groundbreaking.

    Why are people so sure this one is the second coming of Vice City?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Don’t kid yourself, it was amazing. New one will be amazing.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    What I do NOT understand is whenever people resort to propaganda like this, to try sabotage public perception of an (actually evil) person or company. Yes we know Rockstar is a bunch of greedy bastards, but their games are "nothing groundbreaking", really? GTA V and Red Dead are listed as two of the most successful games ever made behind only Minecraft.

    This is like when an actor gets involved in some sex scandal and everyone suddenly thinks their work is mediocre. Can we really not separate an evil person or company from their work?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I'm sorry. Propaganda?

    Yeah red dead was amazing. But they're making a different game to that at the moment. GTA is usually (in comparison) a bit light on the stories/immersion in favour of goofy stuff and explosions.

    Also i don't know about specific evil stuff from rockstar. I just thought they were the usual kind of corpo jerks (union busting etc). Not sure where that particular protest you made is aimed.

    Also "successful" is not really about the players. It's great if you're a shareholder though. They do love whoever invented the shark cards.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    I think it will be. Why are they clamoring to get as much money up front as possible otherwise?

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