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[–] 12 points 2 months ago

Fuck the Michigan Jewish Democrats.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    It's because of Israel. A vote for Republican fascists is a vote for Israel.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    “Michigan Jewish Pedophiles” is the correct label here I would think

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Jew Klux Klan

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    [–] 62 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Dumbasses. Mike Rogers would run the gas chambers if Trump wanted him to.

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  • [–] 113 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Should be corrected to "Michigan Jewish conservatives pretending to be Dems circulars letter..."

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  • [–] 55 points 2 months ago

    No pretending going on here. For a lot of establishment Democrats this has been standard operating procedure. We absolutely need to change what a Democrat is and make it not include people like them though. And the fact they're reacting like this. Indicates that they know just how painfully vulnerable they are now that the DSA is directly targeting them and not just running third party.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago

    Even more accurate would be Michigan Zionists. Don't let them get away with pretending this is about Judaism. Its about denying the liberation of the Palestinian people and continuing the ongoing oppression and genocide.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    No, the title is accurate. There are a bunch of people that I've run into that flat out said if the DSA candidate for governor on my state won, they'd vote Republican.

    Some people here in the Midwest have IQs that rival the average temp, it fucking sucks to hear that they'd rather support the people murdering people in the street over a DSA candidate.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    In all fairness, no one really knows what "Dem" even means anymore, besides a vague promise to not be as awful as the republicans, which the dems dont live up to where Israel is concerned.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    You lost me at "far-left".

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  • [–] 32 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    I like (not really) how Mike Rogers is described in the mildest manner but Sayed is described in boogeyman terms.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    And he "alienated" the genocide lovers. Mild criticism that's fully in line with the mainstream Democratic voter alienated these special babies that must be coddled by the rest of the party.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago

    "Vote for a literal Nazi who wants to put us all in modern-day concentration camps and gas chambers all so scawwy brown man no get powuh."

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  • [–] 75 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    What happened to "Blue no matter who?"

    Seems like that particular messaging got real quiet once the DSA started winning.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Well, being disingenuous with literally ever fucking word they speak has worked wonders for Republicans. Turns out to be an effective technique for Corporate and Zionist Democrats too. It's almost like a class war or something.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Yeah, they’ve successfully conflated anti-genocide with anti-Zionist with anti-semitism. It’s quite an accomplishment really - no one would believe that goal if you said it out loud

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  • [–] 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    This shit is bananas because I never hear the left say anything anti-Semitic.

    But, i just saw a Trump supporter who was mad about Flock blame Jews for Flock.

    Soooooooo yeah. The call is coming from inside the house.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    This will only make actual antisemitism (the kind you describe) worse. The authors of this letter are telling Jewish voters to abandon any principles they have regarding their own country - it doesn’t matter if you support abortion rights, believe in funding public education and social welfare, or just oppose the Trump / fascist agenda. None of that matters compared to supporting Israel. It’s the antisemitic “dual loyalty” trope come to life.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (1 child)
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    You can drop "party". They're convincing people to vote for the worse candidate because that worse candidate is more likely to approve policies to support and subsidize a parasitic foreign nation.

    They are absolutely traitors to the USA.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It's pretty crazy how the verbiage for the article clearly has a bias. Well I guess not crazy, but it's obvious.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 months ago

    There was never any doubt, the moderates will try to sabotage progressives in the general election.

    Their main purpose is not to beat republicans and keep them out of office, it's to keep control of the party.

    As always, the "moderates" are weaponizing jewish people to keep control. Fuck you Starmer by the way you fucking cunt.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I think the people of Michigan REALLY need to not underestimate the power of influence Israel, racism, the new Red Scare and Islamophobia have in this race.

    Countless old fucks and Zionist Dem voters, as well as simply racist Dems are gonna jump ship, or at least refuse to turn out.

    Don't get too comfortable in this race, nor others. Remember, even a close race that ends in victory is ripe for Trump and his goons to steal.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    I’m proud to say that my son and I are doing our part. I will not relent in my continued condemnation of the apartheid state of Israel. We both voted in the primary, and almost all of my picks got through. I asked him a few days after the results were announced how he voted, stressing to him that he does NOT have to reveal that to anyone, even me, but that I was just curious. Without skipping a beat, he mentioned how our man destroyed Haley and the $30 million dollar infusion by a foreign state.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago
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    “Dems” don’t back fascism. Clearly they’re cunts

    edit: sorry, autocorrect - republicans

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Netanyahu, is that you?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    Welcome to the new Democratic party, with a tent so big it includes Republicans!?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago*

    None of them should ever be involved in anything with a "D" in its name without someone standing up and reminding them about the time they endorsed MAGA.

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    This is neat. Do you know the source? Is it actually Seuss?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Before he could find work as an author, Seuss had a run of amazing political cartoons leading up to and during World War II. They are archived at some college web site called “Seuss Goes To War”.

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    Some of the racist characters are definitely “of the time”. I always show them to my seventh grade civics students to point out how propaganda works (and to make sure they don’t hold their heroes too close).

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    "Insular community doesnt give a fuck about anyone else. More at 6."

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Remember: they're JEWISH leaders with JEWISH concerns. Thats all. They're just worried for their fellow jewish people. I mean, if isreal stops killing just everyone they possibly can, think of what that means for jews around the world! /i'm not even sure if this is sarcasm

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Sooooo Nazis. Jewish American Nazis. Wild world we live in.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    ... as he faces Abdul El-Sayed, the far-left Democratic nominee...

    P.S. It seems this GIF is large portion of my replies lately yet is perfectly appropriate each time.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    “Far left”

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    Don’t divide by party lines. Those times are over, and arguably have always been. Now it’s about neoliberals, fascists and leftists. The neoliberals pretend to care, but too often side with fascists.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Like... ok. So antisemitism is bad still. Right? A surprising number suddenly like fascism and genocide. Idk. Might want to have a clubhouse meeting about that. It doesn't look great.

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    Yeah. Tell me again how it is the Zionists that are a problem and not everyday Jewish people. Very, very hard not to feel a bit antisemetic right now.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    These sure sound like Zionists to me. Zionists and those trying to push Zionists love to describe them as just Jewish while policing the Jewishness of Antizionists. It's a propaganda tool, not reality.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The main parties across the west use the jewish community as tools to attack upstarts in their parties and opponents. Not all Jewish people are their tools, Jewish Voices for Peace and the like and all. Bernie Sanders is Jewish too.

    The party, and their media, are going to frame it as Jewish because tarring everyone not falling in line with their best fascist friends is an effective tactic because some people (in this case you,) are too, let's say misguided, to not be manipulated by the polits and their media.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Eric Bronstein, a Detroit businessman

    I guess this guy is all Jews now, folks.

    Pretty fucking gross, dude. Even if it was every Jew, the response should be how did we alienate them, and can the relationship be rehabilitated without compromising our morals? not Welp, Jews bad.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The majority of American Jews are not Zionists and a huge and growing portion of those are in fact anti-Zionist these days. Moreover, Jewish people have been at the forefront of almost every Palestinian solidarity movement in the US since before people started finally waking the fuck up in only the last couple of years to this century-long Zionist anti-Arab ethnostate horror project. And we will continue to do so even when we have to contend with pieces of shit like you with your shallow and feckless "solidarity" and sympathy at the same time.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I’m seeking neither. My viewpoint is a genuine concern of mine. I grew up not at all understanding why there was negative feelings toward jews. Literally made zero sense to me. Current actions by zionists has me feeling negatively toward Jews. The other reply actually helped me understand the problem with my understanding of the situation. Just attacking me does no good.

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  • [+] -17 points 2 months ago (19 children)

    Yes, it seems Jews are worried about antisemitism permeating leftism.

    What will the response of leftists be?

    It will likely involve hating Jews.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (15 children)

    Tag checks out once again

    Zionism is not Judaism

    Antizionism is not antisemitism

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (14 children)

    If you think a non-Jewish Canadian is Israel, then how careful are you about applying the "evil Israel" label to others. How often do you apply it to people for just being Jewish?

    Thank you for helping me make the point that leftists use Israel as a cover for being hateful towards others.

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    I apply it to people supporting the Israeli atrocities, nothing else. I wouldn't apply it to Jews or even Israeli who call out the genocide. Only the genocide supporters such as yourself

    I do wonder: Why do you call opposition to genocide antisemitism when it clearly isn't?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    If you're opposed to genocide of Jews, I wouldn't consider you to be antisemitic. Hamas committed genocidal acts on Jews on October 7. Do you denounce Hamas? If you can't denounce Hamas, you're at minimum willing to look the other way on atrocities committed against Jews. And that makes you antisemitic.

    I've found very few people in the "far left" are capable of denouncing Hamas. They tend to ban me from leftist communities rather than face the question of whether to denounce Hamas. You're not anti-genocide if you can't denounce groups that have genocidal goals. So applying critical thinking, leftists aren't really against genocide if they aren't against Hamas.

    Do you denounce Hamas? Will you answer that question or do typical the leftist whataboutism about genocide?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (9 children)

    I'm anti genocide generally. No matter who does it. No matter who is the victim. Are you the same? And why won't you answer my question?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Can you say the words "I denounce Hamas"?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Can you say the words "I denounce Israel"?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I didn't ask you to denounce Palestine. I asked you to denounce Hamas. There is a difference you know.

    Sure, I'll denounce Netanyhu and whatever politcal party he's the leader of. Denouncing millions of people I won't do though, because that's a hateful thing to do. I wouldn't denounce Palestine or the Palestinian people either.

    So once again, can you say the words "I denounce Hamas"? You denounce millions of people but you can't denounce a politcal movement? Why can't you straight up denounce Hamas which is politcal group that intentionally murdered children?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    None of those things are the same. Israel is not the same as it's government or its people. And neither of those are the same as Jews, semites, or Judaism.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Still can't say the words "I denounce Hamas" can you?

    I just have to assume you support the killing of Jews, even when they're children. That makes you pro-genocide. You have no moral high ground here.

    Go ahead and rationalize your hatred of millions of people if you want, but at the end of the day you are incapable of denouncing a group that kills children. Probably because you're more worried about the social pressures of the hate group you're a part of than having morals.

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