I use AI at work everyday. If it went away the only thing that would change is I’d just go back to googling stuff
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Definitely. I haven't even begun to use it yet and its already pissing me off. If I touch the phone in just the wrong way it starts doing AI at me. Turns out it starts doing AI at me if I hold the power button down to turn it off. Imagine my anger.
Every time I turn my Windows laptop on it throws more and more copilot bollocks at me that I dont need or want and dont have the time to try and disable so I just have to spend the whole time fighting it off like a dog trying to hump my leg when I'm trying to cook dinner.
Your metaphor is perfect!
I try to search - AI humps my leg. I shop online - useless AI assistant humps my leg. I phone a company for customer service - oh you better believe some stupid AI voice humps my leg.
How could I ever live without it?
If I touch the phone in just the wrong way it starts doing AI at me. Turns out it starts doing AI at me if I hold the power button down to turn it off.
Execs: "AI engagement is extremely high."
Win debloater. You can kill cp entirely and save your bullshit gutting script to run again in the future
Please don't abbreviate copilot and please don't make me explain why.
Oh no no no that was deliberate. I want that association to tske flight and fuck their branding
You are playing a dangerous game with cheese pizza.
i have no idea what that means
EdiT: ih. yes, of course. Cock pirate. Apologies for the slow draw, been building a basement brewery all day
Cheese pizza is also perverted. You're covering a perfectly good pizza with stolen rotted breast milk from an animal. Vegan cheese pizza is fine.
Fuck that. Cow milk goes moo oo oo oo oo.
..and yes, I'm Nordic and tolerate it fucking perfectly. The only American I've ever dated got into this with me so hard I thought she'd die on the sidewalk out of pure spite right there. "Milk is for baby cows," my hairy ass. It's for delicious fucking pizzas, amongst many other delicious things.
..also if you've been in Finland for close to a fucking decade and haven't figured out that yes, we fucking drink it just like that maybe it's time to figure out a new area in the world to settle. Like a Polynesian Volcano. Fuuuck.
Oh yeah good point, animal breast milk is also connected to race by right wing weirdos. Source: https://theconversation.com/milk-a-symbol-of-neo-nazi-hate-83292
Here's a great (and by great I mean awful) historical quote on milk from 1933:
“A casual look at the races of people seems to show that those using much milk are the strongest physically and mentally, and the most enduring of the people of the world. Of all races, the Aryans seem to have been the heaviest drinkers of milk and the greatest users of butter and cheese, a fact that may in part account for the quick and high development of this division of human beings.”
You shut that pretty little milk hole of yours

But seriously, would you drink milk if it was ethically sourced?
Yeah, I'm fine with consensually taken breast milk, like from a human or other sapient creature. My digestive system requests that I only have a little, though.
You should probably have looked at the differences between cultures there as it was damn near mandatory to drink milk in Norway, Sweden, Finland, and I presume Denmark, but who knows what they were up to, between 19XX and ...now, really. They've added water now, but anyway. It really sucked for people who didn't like milk. Anyways, what this has to do with your nazi problem = not much, but I see why you thought you'd score big there. It's just that the whole world isn't just America and pals. Also, your wierdass nazis drink it straight-up milk like weirdoes. PEF, my friend. Learn to love it.
Would you like to know something else they liked to obsess about in those old castles of theirs? Grails. Holy ones, especially.
I have seen multiple of those Windows debloater scripts online, but I struggle to understand which one is legit and which could be malware
Me, a Meth Addict, constantly trying to blow meth smoke in your face and stab you with meth needles: "You're going to have a pretty hard time getting by without it!"
I guess we just have to accept meth being forced into everything because the cat is out of the bag!
Me, an ADHD sufferer, "Yeah, meth is terrible. But please don't try to ban amphetamines universally."
Right now I could probably get meth easier than adderall even with my prescription.
I've been wondering why is meth still allowed as a treatment for adhd? Do regular amphetamines not work for some people?
I'm 50. I would do just fine without AI like I did when we didn't have the Internet. I'll adjust. It might be a pain without GPS, Google Maps. Being without a cell phone would be a big one for me as well. It's not like we have pay phones anymore. And I would have to go back to pagers/beepers. But i would manage either way.
The loss of AI would barely be noticable for the average person. A bunch of developers would have a bad day trying to remove all that integration they were forced by management to add, but beyond that, people would move on.
Removing the Internet as a whole at this stage would be basically impossible without halting pretty much every economic force on the planet, I think. The Internet acts as the backbone of pretty much everything related to monetary transactions or logistics in general.
Yep, and after IOT stuff even some people homes would have plenty of problems
I'd say if we were to increase our resilience in an analogue world, we should start now while those who lived the analogue era are still alive and functional. Otherwise, we'll see ourselves heavily dependent on power and data as long as modern civilisation exists.
This is wildly incorrect. If by AI you mean exclusively modern LLMs, then it would effectively halt quite a lot of modern research, including virology, epidemiology, physics, materials sciences, and many more.
If by AI you mean the actual definition of AI, then you can say goodbye to the Internet as we know it today. Translation services, fraud protection, GPS, 99.9% of all software development, etc. nobody had a problem with AI ~5 years ago. Those exact same algorithms are now flagged as evil because people misunderstand what they're even complaining about.
The impossibility of removing the Internet is identical to the impossibility of removing AI. Or, if you use the incorrect term to mean LLMs exclusively, then say goodbye to quite a lot of critical modern research. I hope you don't like antibiotics, because there was a recent breakthrough that used Evo 1 and Evo 2, both LLMs trained on genome data.
I would do just fine without AI like I did when we didn’t have the Internet.
I mean, I considered the internet a godsend for a whole host of reasons and have been much better off with it than without it. Auto-Nav alone has saved me more hours utterly lost in my car than I care to think about.
But i would manage either way.
Wouldn't really have a choice.
But then that's the thing with AI. It's not "the internet". It's this superfluous annoying add-on that keeps getting forced into platforms I was perfectly happy to use without it.
I'm constantly "choosing" not to use it and then finding the damned thing branded onto the ass-end of whatever new application or environment I approach.
I'm not using any "forced on me" AI products, other than as a search engine aid, and I have better tools for that now anyway.
I do, absolutely use AI. I use local, self hosted small focused AI that run on old hardware I was just using to self host media and games anyway.
Want do my AI do? Lots of boring organizing, text/voice recognition, and script/simple coding for hobby projects and such, all offline. For online stuff there are private large models vailable, but those cost money and I'm cheap.
If I lost it all? Well it would just take me longer to do the boring stuff and have less time for fun stuff edit
I think the most upsetting part of AI is discovering how many people were so ready for it, like they were just waiting for something to show up that they could offload their lack of creativity or responsibility onto.
I instantly lost friends because the first thing out of their mouth was 'thank God I never have to pay anyone to commission art ever again and the little guy has access to good OC art.'
These people were not functioning before AI.
No absolving the LLM-obsessed but I believe the average person is just so overwhelmed with society that they salivate for easy answers, just so that something is easy in their lives.
I imagine LLMs wouldn't be as persuasive if humans had the leisure to satisfy their curiosity, indulge in artistic expression, and socialize with their loved ones. Instead we're inculcated to this rat race and get surprised when people fall for any scraps they can get their hands on.
Some people are mindless by nature, but this set-up was nutured (intentionally or not) by those wanting to exploit the commoners.
I had this sort of sympathy until I saw how openly hostile people were in their open jealousy over talented people. I kept running into these people for years who were just so angry at the fact that they had to pay someone for their time and talent.
This gets to be a little offshooty for other things I tend to have less popular opinions on, but it's the same people who feel that piracy should be the norm. No art, performance, or entertainment should be allowed to compel payment and it should all be free. This includes people who absolutely froth about advertisments on their Youtube videos. Granted 5 ads in a row is ridiculous but peraonally I want my artists and performers to be paid egregiously and I will suffer some small inconveniences to make sure they ateast get something from me.
But I think the venn diagram of people who are obsessed with AI and the people who just take offense to having to spend money on anything is a pretty tight one.
I'm staunchly anti-AI, pro-piracy, and pro-adblock. You should never pay for anything made by Disney, Warner Brothers, or Paramount. You should never watch an ad served by Google or Meta. And you should never use Elon Musk's child porn nazi machine or Sam Altman's child murderer machine.
There's no ethical consumption under capitalism. But you can make your consumption less unethical, by refusing to give time or money to billionaires.
That doesn't change the fact that artists and creatives have no other outlet than to be beholden by their platform. Unless you're going and buying hatsune miku fanart prints at your farmers market, unethucal consumption under captitalism also means trying to find out how to provide for the staff who still contribute to meaningful art, even if that is the set designer for an Avengers slop movie.
Yeah, obviously you should throw money at creators you like on bandcamp and patreon.
But Owen Dennis ain't getting My money if I subscribe to paramount plus for Among Us, and he sure as shit ain't getting any money if I watch an ad on cartoon network's website while trying to figure out how to watch Infinity Train. I really love Infinity Train, but you can't watch it legally anymore. And it's not like Owen gets a big bonus if enough people subscribe to catch Among Us.
So anyway I just sent Owen Dennis some money on Patreon to show My appreciation for his amazing cartoons. And I'm still gonna block as many ads as I can!
He existed but he must never have actually bothered learning to do anything.
Work in cybersecurity. Don't use AI. Thanks to AI all the search engines are fucked.
Please let it die.
Jokes on you, I use AI as a search engine to wade through all the other AI generated slop. It works some of the time, unlike google which is only ads.
I use a self-hosted combo of Hister (search engine with local index, you can get a browser extension to add pages you visit to the index so it basically searches your own browser history, it also bas a web crawler for building up your local index) and SearXNG (meta-search engine, it basically searches multiple normal search engines in the background, and you can route those searches through tor or a rotating list of proxies for increased privacy)
Setting up SearXNG is on my to-do list
Highly recommend it. Only took like 5 minutes to set up, just install it, enable the systemd service (or equivalent, I've only run it on arch, but I assume there's at least an openrc service as well), and then set which engines you want it to pull from in the config (and optionally configure search proxies)
This betrays such a lack of imagination (and probably empathy), as he is completely incapable of conceiving that people don't use LLMs as much as he does.
Haters are absolutely people that use it all the time but are against it? For clout? To simply hate on something?
Last time I sullied my fingers with a copilot prompt, it decided lobster was vegan so I immediately scrapped that idea and went back to real intelligence. I would be 100.00% delighted if "AI" disappeared.
This is the 3rd of 4th time recently that I've heard someone, directly or indirectly, describe AI like meth. The first one was Hank Green when he said something along the lines of getting hooked on 'being able to get things done faster,' which is exactly how many people end up meth-heads.
All of these people that want to end billionaires, or reduce their accumulated wealth, I have one question: if billionaires disappeared tomorrow would you still get through an entire day of your life? Imagine if the rich were eaten? Would you really be willing to give them up?
God please make ai go poof maybe there'd be some tiny chance of me getting a job after college (probably not)
What's scary is that AI as a service is really expensive, and the AI companies have been selling tokens as a severe loss all this time.
If you're that dependent on AI, what happens when you have to bear the full price?
You're going to give up your AI girlfriend, is what.
This is really what has put me off AI, yes there are the ethical and environmental considerations and they worry me too but ultimately it's the price, and the knowledge that the price inevitably will increase.
I don't want to build all my workflows on a system that not only do I not really control I don't even have a fixed price for. That just seems like a really bad design.
I also dislike using Microsoft 365 for the exact same reason. I do not want to rest my business model on someone else's business model.
I'm not anti-AI, but I'm most definitely anti-corporate greed. I wish there was moderation in all of this. I wish there were regulations instead of letting companies blindly buy hardware before it's even made based on what they or their competitors might be doing 2 years from now. Fuck that.
With that said, yes, AI is a helpful tool, yes, I'm using it every day at work, and yes, I can do without it no problem - just like I have for many many years.
AI has been in development for a long time, I remember learning about neural networks when I was at school in the 90s, they weren't very sophisticated by all accounts but the research was there. What's happened lately is that scientists have been replaced by tech bros and all the research is now happening out in public, and it is on sale, rather than in the labs where it can be regulated by people who are not purely profit motivated.
The internet didn't vanish when the dot com bubble burst, all that happened was that businesses were more accurately assessed as to their market value. If anything, the internet was improved by the dot com bubble burst, does increase the number of actually practical ideas.
I suspect AI will be better once the AI bubble bursts, and the research goes back into labs and starts being done by ethical scientists again.
I like to think about the fact that most AI companies lose huge sums of money, and that it can't really be maintained. It'll naturally become an expensive tool after the "hype" dies down. It'll no longer be worth it to put it in everything, to message random shit to it etc.
I dig trenches with a shovel. There is no USB port on my shovel. I thank the almighty gods for that small blessing.
I've never understood the appeal of the "smartified" appliances. My TV is more annoying than it used to be because it has smart features, it was actually more useful when it was dumb and simply played broadcast television or whatever was fed to it varian HDMI port, I don't need smart light switches asI can turn my own lights on it's not that difficult, I don't need a smart fridge either, not unless it's going to stock itself.
I can't think of a single piece of equipment that I use on a regular basis that would benefit from having internet connectivity added to it. I guess it would be nice if my wall clock updated when the hours changed due to daylight savings, but nothing other than that.
It's a good accelerator for mundane tasks, and usually a good indicator that you could farm those tasks out to an intern.
You should give AI the same responsibility and trust that you give to a green intern because it will confidently fuck things up and requires an experienced eye to review anything it produces.
If AI went away tomorrow, we could probably take the cost and redistribute it to a graduate or two.
The fuck was this clown doing 5 years ago? 10? Begging for change until slightly more advanced chat bots could do his "job" for him? What the fuck?
If it were banned, would it matter if you "willing" to give it up? Dumbass question.
And yes, I could do my job easily.
Yeh possibly a little early to pull that card, might make more sense for like "the internet" or something where it's had about 30 years to become an essential part of people's lives. Unlike a lot of the Lemmy audience who would clearly not be the type of people he's thinking of, I actually do make use of some of those tools so I should really be exactly one of the types he's thinking about but while I've developed that habit and would likely notice the absence of the tools for about a fortnight, it'd hardly make a massive difference.
The funny thing is that meth actually increases productivity in a way where YOU are actually doing the fucking work.
Unlike AI which not only does it for you so you begin to get rusty and lose your ability to be effective, but it gets all the work fucking wrong as well.
Essentially what I'm saying is that meth is a more effective workplace tool than AI. I'm sure a lot of psychopathic, shark tank type business people would agree with me.
I'm not trying to say meth is a good thing. I'm just saying it's legitimately a more useful tool than fucking AI.
Yes, because I don't rely on AI or even computers to do my work. The joys of printed manuals and life experience. Only computer I use at work is a shitty old iPad and order software which uses an incredibly dated interface that's never seen AI let alone a competent UX designer.

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