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[–] gedfromgont@piefed.ca 108 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I am amazed this dude uploads it on a place like Github and even provides his name in the hopes of scoring a job. I will also be amazed if he doesn't get sued for the rest of his earthly posessions.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I'm sure he'll be sued for a quadrillion bazillion dollars for publishing an alpha version of a canceled expansion for a 2005 game, the engine of which is already open-sourced.

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

Businesses do not care about any of that. They don't even care if it has been out of production since 1952. If they own it and you upload it, they are absolutely looking for a way to get money from you. All the money.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

Many companies hoard IP like dragons hoard gold.

Going bankrupt? Cool, I'll buy you for pennies on the dollar. What am I doing with your IP? I sit on it with the rest of my IP. Because maybe somewhere in the future I might make a little extra cash off of it. No, I do not intend to ever sell any of the media I own the rights to! I'm too greedy for that, you cannot even look at my IP!

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[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 105 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Better download it now before they get it pulled

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

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[–] ClockworkN@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Hal???

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

It was the only one I could find with a good framerate and I was hoping no one would notice lmao

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[–] KssioAug@piefed.zip 59 points 3 months ago (24 children)

It might as well be his doom (pun intended). Can't Activision file a lawsuit against him for uploading that on Github?

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[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 29 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Activision and Github are both part of the same company too. Maybe a different Git would have been better.

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 41 points 3 months ago* (5 children)

No? GitHub is owned by Microsoft

Edit: I'm wrong. Apparently Microsoft owns Activision blizzard?!

Oh no...

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[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 76 points 3 months ago

Sorry you had to learn this way.

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[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 months ago (1 child)

How on earth did you miss that? It was in the news for years, the biggest buyout with 69 BILLION dollars. It's actually Activision-Blizzard-King, King being the company responsible for mobile game hits like Candy Crush (that's why its in your start menu).

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[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 2 points 3 months ago

Wait! Does that mean King doesn't have croquis Wednesday's anymore?

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 months ago

It's 2026. Everything is owned by like 4 companies

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[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago

Yeah :(

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[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I like Codeberg, but I don't think they would allow a project of this size, especially given the liability.

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Idea: we use torrents and go back to emailing eachother .patch files.

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[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

And still use git, tho? Cuz that's kind of the whole point of these sites.

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 months ago

Could use git, sure. Would make it easier to merge longer tailed sets of changes for sure, though maybe harder to pass around anonymously, assuming you're taking about repositories.

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[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Seeing as he obtained it legally, albeit by accident, ~~I think it would be whoever sold the hard disk that's at fault.~~ Granted, IANAL and the American legal system is fucky.

Edit: Yeah I'm not a lawyer.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

He doesn’t hold the copyright so has no right to distribute it. Like if you bought a manuscript from a book you don’t have the right to print copies of it and distribute it. Since you only are the owner of that specific manuscript not the copyright and distribution rights of the actual content.

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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Just finding something by accident doesn't give you the right to publish it.

If you found someone manuscript in the drawer of a desk you bought, you would not gain the right to publish it, it still belongs to the person that wrote it. Physical possession has nothing to do with the right to distribute, that is IP law that goes back a hundred years.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago

Okay well would he at least be in less trouble than if he'd made any money off it?

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[–] myster0n@feddit.nl 17 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Well, now he must be quaking in his boots!

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago (7 children)

He heard the call and did his duty

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[–] KssioAug@piefed.zip 2 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

But was he prepared to be under their overwatch?

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[–] msage@programming.dev 1 point 3 months ago (5 children)

He should get a medal for his honor.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

That medal comes from a dishonored company, so it wouldn't count

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[–] FryHyde@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What a world...of warcraft.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Makes you want to escape to the outer worlds.

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[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

Red Dead Redemption 2

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 months ago

They don't really own R* (yet?)

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This is like those "I found a hidden safe in a wall in my home" posts on Reddit but specifically for gamers and I love it.

I had a blast with Q4 and been waiting over 20 years for the next Quake. Guess this will have to do.

[–] jinwk00@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

For now we have another Quake 1 expansion pack

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 3 months ago

And it plays out well instead of getting Geraldoed.

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[–] Arras@nord.pub 16 points 3 months ago (28 children)

Can we please have XCOM3?

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[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 11 points 3 months ago (11 children)

I just want XCOM 3 and dishonored 3… is that really too much to ask for?

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[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Yes

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago

You just need to convince Satya Nadella that it'll be profitable. Like, billions of dollars in ROI profitable.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Xenonauts 2 is the balm you desire. Nothing worthwhile will ever come from Firaxis again.

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[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Technically, Deathloop is Dishonored 3. Death of the Outsider kind of killed the base gameplay premise that Dishonored 1 and 2 were built on, though, so I wouldn't expect a true Dishonored 3... ever, really.

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

What's the dishonored game that came out after 2? I have the first one and saw two others on my wishlist just the other day.

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[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Death of the Outsider is the game after 2. It's technically a stand-alone expansion rather than a game, though; it's more like Dishonored 1's Knife of Dunwall and Brigmore Witches expansions than it is a proper Dishonored 3, it just runs on its own executable rather than from a menu within Dishonored 2.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Deathloop is a masterpiece. It does not get the credit it deserves.

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah I didn't even like Dishonoured, but Deathloop was legit.

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[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

Even if the gameplay loop is changed, I’d like a game set it Tyvia, Morley, and the Pandyssian continent each. I rather liked the setting

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[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Well, Deathloop is set in Tyvia...

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[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago

Ah, didn’t realize!

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[–] phx@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Sorry, gotta wait for a Quake 6 developer to find it in an SSD in an old laptop they bought online

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[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

‘Xenonauts’ is probably your best bet, since it's said to be faithful to the original games and received very good reviews.

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 4 points 3 months ago* (13 children)

All the original devs are gone, it would be a shell of its former self. If the original developers are still together somewhere, we would be better off getting a new IP.

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[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Original devs like Julian Gollop, who made his own spiritual successor ‘Phoenix Point’ in 2019? Which unfortunately turned out to be so-so.

Or you could look at third-party developers instead, since ‘Xenonauts’ was received much better.

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He wasnt involved in the reboot series IIRC. Jake Solomon was the creative director.

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[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child)

That may be true, except I'm not talking about Firaxis' reboot.

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 0 points 3 months ago

I was, as that is what people usually mean with XCOM 3. A sequel to XCOM 2.

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[–] albbi@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why? Xcom has its first game released in 1994. The IP has been around for a long time.

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[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago*

Technically we already had XCOM 3. Apocalypse wasn't half bad, despite the weird realtime/turn-based combat system.

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 2 points 3 months ago

Because the industry has changed a lot over the last decade and XCOM would be more likely to be dragged through the dirt than to be faithfully resurrected.

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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 1 point 3 months ago (5 children)

What do you mean "gone" did I miss some kind of dev genocide after 2005?

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Yes, lots of layoffs and devs just moving on.

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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social -1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Ah, so they still exist, but because they aren't still making stuff for you they no longer have any right to the things they created. Got it.

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They have made stuff for me, just getting them back together to make another XCOM is very very unlikely. Do you understand how IP ownership works?

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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social -2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Yes. Do you?

You DO understand that just because the original developers don't still work in the same room that things do not become public domain, right?

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 5 points 3 months ago*

I think you are confused. I am simply saying, the developers, the individuals, who designed and created the reboot series are no longer working at the studio who owns the IP "XCOM". Unless they are all rehired by 2K, them individuals cannot develop another XCOM. Do you understand now?

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[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Maybe it can be ported to the latest idtech

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Quake 4

I forgot this game even existed. It wasn't very good tbh

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[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

No way, that game was awesome! It was actually my first quake game and the story and bosses were really cool. The scene where you're captured was so cool and brutal.

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[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The Strogg were such a good enemy. Loved the idea that they used body parts of enemies to make their soldiers. I'd love to see that concept with modern graphica.

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[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah exactly! It was shocking and cool to see an alien species harvesting humans and other animals. The Strogg seemed like a real alien military society. Half Life 2 is maybe a bit similar but I have to assume you've played it :)

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[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

Honestly, I wonder who would win. The strogg or the Combine. I feel the strogg with how they could make use of the bodies of Combine soldiers.

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[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago

I dunno man, the combine have access to portals and other dimensions and shit. Either way I'd pay to see that fight!

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I replay it every now and then as a part of my normal rotation. I still can never remember what the final boss is like. The mid game tower boss is much more memorable. The core problem with Q4 is it had an idenity crisis. It was trying to be a classic Quake game, a CoD-like and a Halo-like all at the same time.

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[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 months ago

I played it recently, and enjoyed it. It wasn't quite what I wanted out of a quake game, but as a standalone sci-fi horror game, it's a thoroughly fun romp

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[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

Fuckin baller man