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[–] 107 points 3 months ago (64 children)

Sabine Hossenfelder, after she went full anti-science, like "and you can trust me because i am a scientist, but not like those other scientists."

I think i stopped watching when she read a fake email to the camera.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    I unsubbed her when she started going anti-feminist and pro-merz

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Her anti trans stuff was also a good warning sign.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    After knowing it, I agree with the university of Munich kicking her out like trash.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    im guessing there was truth about some of the commenters saying she was the one that was "hard to work with" after seeing the first 30seconds of the video(about giving up as a physicist", at first i thought it was anti-feminist comment, but it make sense now.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    This is when I stopped watching. What does an astrophysicist know about gender? Why did she feel the need to insert it into an astrophysics video? Scientists: stay in your lane and recognize you might not be the authority you think you are on every subject. Also, irrelevant to the content at hand.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    There’s a huge phenomenon of people who are experts in random fields pretending that it gives the competence to speak about trans issues.

    Eg, Helen Joyce is a mathematician but has made her entire career into being aggrieved about trans people.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    NdGT will talk about ANY subject as though he was an expert. I'm kind of shocked he hasn't said anything stupid about trans people yet, but he sure has said a lot of stupid stuff.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    i suspect alot of these are paid to be right wing mouthpieces by someone funding them. they need new ones currently(the likes of tim poole, shapiro isnt enough), and "intellectuals" aka, pseudointellectuals with degrees have more validity to would be potential "far right supporters" in the audience,, and drawing men into the manosphere.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I think the Heritage Foundation and a few other groups are deliberately recruiting and paying people for anti trans propaganda. Consider how Riley Gaines has made an entire career out of tying with someone for fifth place at a swim competition.

    There’s a phenomenon of fake detransitioners as well. Maia Poet and Chloe Cole.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Fulnecky is a new one made a fake paper, she knows that the trans TA would get in trouble. Faux news is lining upnew bimbos, incase ingraham gets the axe from being an anchor.

    jordan peterson was very effective in getting people into the manosphere with pseudo-intellectual bs. im guessing they need more for each STEM background. and he was mostly paid by putin, his ties to russia is pretty obvious.

    transphobia, lgbtq+ phobia seems to be the thing "uniting hate amonst even POCs (that are bigoted)too, transphobia issue seems to be unresolved in POC groups, like asians, blacks, hispanics, because its almost never discussed..

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    thats whats happening to her, i guess she far right herself. her video first caught notice, after her "why i left academia, or gave up being a physicist" im guessing she wasnt telling the whole truth to that video, she probably was so difficult to work with in academia, or a job that nobody wants to hire her, or her political leanings were annoying asf, at first she said something about being a woman and being ignored in the field dominated by men. im guessing people in the comments were right: she was the troublemaker.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I liked her covering science, but her takes on politics were either shallow or just wrong.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    What hit me there was another YouTuber complaining about her. she bitched about that, and I'm like ohh they're full of shit. Then I saw another, and a professor, and stopped to listen, they plead their cases. I started digging into it. She's on the edge of quackery in a lot of her listen to this person and not that person stuff. Quite a bit of her science leaks into areas she doesn't have a lot of expertise in, and rightful experts unceremoniously dunk on her for hot takes. When I saw it was multiple people and not just influencers looking for steak... I ended up cutting her off.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    At some point I noticed that she always sounds like she's talking with clenched teeth, as if she was on speed. Kinda ruined it for me, also her format is kinda lame.

    Didn't know about those other things so... Yikes...

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    You are right and there is all kinds of legitimate criticism against here. That's not what's about to follow, please abandon expectations.

    What is the deal with her face??? We can all see (and possibly hear) that there's something going on there, right?

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  • [+] -16 points 3 months ago* (35 children)

    How do you go full anti-science?

    Just because she questions mainstream consensus science which has very little evidence going for it?

    That's what a good scientist does. They formulate hypothesis... Theories. Maybe they're right or maybe they're wrong. Who knows.

    You don't have to be infallibly correct to be a scientist.

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  • [+] 20 points 3 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Speaking of Sabine, I unsubscribed from Alex O'Connor because he kept having pseudo science guests on and wasn't being critical at all, just letting them yap. Gave me Rogan vibes but hosting Sabine was my last straw.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I’ve been so disappointed in the direction he has taken his channel. Rogan vibes is such a good way of putting it.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Or at least a whiff of Rogan, I'm pretty sensitive to any potential red flags these days even if he doesn't ever fall off as hard as that. Glad someone else agrees, I haven't looked in a year to know if he's fallen out of online atheist graces or not.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I’ve seen concerns in comment sections in videos on other channels when he comes up in clips and seen a single video addressing some concerns about his direction, but nothing major to my knowledge.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (9 children)

    If you are genuinely asking and not just defending, this blog post is a starting point to explain: https://timothynguyen.org/2025/08/21/physics-grifters-eric-weinstein-sabine-hossenfelder-and-a-crisis-of-credibility/

    Others can say it better than me, but her videos went from well-researched science education to takedowns of the scientific process itself, hybothesis, experiment, analysis, forming new hypotheses. And takedowns of scientist in general. Conspiracies like "they're all trying to waste taxpayer money," which did GREAT numbers on YouTube.

    I enjoyed her early videos saying "String theory is too difficult to verify experimentally, offers too little in predictive power, and gets way too much funding compared to other areas like X Y Z." That's a fair opinion and a discussion where rational minds can support their argument, and even agree to disagree.

    "Science is sick, academia is dying, the whole field is corrupt, you can't trust scientists" is her vibe now. You can't have good faith arguments in that framing.

    Here is one quote:

    Scientific disagreements are intricate matters that require the attention of highly trained experts. However, for laypersons to be able to make up their own minds on such issues, they have to rely on proxies for credibility such as persuasiveness and conviction. This is the vulnerability that contrarians exploit, as they are often skilled in crafting the optics and rhetoric to support their case. Indeed, Weinstein and Hossenfelder’s strong personalities and their sowing of distrust in institutions enable them to persuade others of the correctness of their views when they deviate from those of experts.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    I haven't watched Sabine in ages. She has always been fringe... Often cringe.

    Science is sick. At least in America.... Academia is dying. The amount of people that use AI to cheat is ridiculous. Brain rot was literally word of the year...

    People are getting stupider regardless of the subject matter. I think Korn wrote a song about that and how long ago was that?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (7 children)

    I really liked her quantum physics explainers, like the two slit experiment. I didn't think she was fringe when she was teaching like this.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Have you considered she's farming for clicks and really doesn't give a fuck?

    Look how she's been attacked over the years even when she was doing videos that you all really liked I was never a fan but to each their own. Scientific method can take many facets. And that's the wonderful thing about science is that scientists disagree with each other. But ultimately we should rely upon experimentation and predictive power and falsifiability to determine what is science and what is not.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (5 children)

    It's obvious that's what's she's doing. But i think she believes the lies at this point.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)

    I like Gareth from See The Pattern. I don't agree with it everything that guy says. But that's kind of the point he explores various theories and that's fun. I can't say whether they're right or wrong and I really don't care cuz it's presented well and it's entertaining.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    How does that relate to Sabine?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    They both discuss cosmology among similar subjects on YouTube.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Cool. I tried to get into Space Time, but he doesn't seem as invested in actually explaining vs just presenting a script.

    Old Veritasium explainer videos are very good -- for example the gravity and acceleration equivalence.

    I don't watch cosmology that much any more.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    The space time guy is sooo prickly. He's hard to listen to, because there's very little supposition or hypotheticals in his voice. It's like he's talking about something that's certainly as settled as solid concrete when we all know it's much more fluffy.

    Gareth talks about all sorts of physics beyond cosmology... He presented at that uh... What was it. It was this conference. I think DemystiCon. Eric Lerner was there....

    Jim Keller actually had questions for Gareth. I was watching it ... Jim Keller just appeared and I'm like damn... Really? He's kind of a rock star in the semiconductor industry....

    Anyway the talk was about how the big bang never happened. "Beyond the big bang."

    See the pattern talks about just basically alternatives to mainstream science and how mainstream science maybe is getting things wrong.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (13 children)

    mainstream consensus science which has very little evidence going for it?

    Can you please name an example one or two of things that have reached "scientific consensus" yet have very little evidence?

    How about just one. One thing.

    I'm really curious to see what it is that you think words mean.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Coca-cola has notoriously spent buh-buh-buh-BILLIONS on nutritional research. They throw away the research that doesn't suit the science that they WANT to be true and promote the research that tends to support it. An example of a disproved hypothesis that has been accepted due to their meddling is "calories in, calories out."

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Big bang theory. Hell, probably most of cosmology. It's all a bunch of bullshit. Our main theory was the brain fart of a Catholic priest and that's now considered the "secular theory." You can't make this stuff up.... Oh wait you can. From cosmic inflation to dark matter and dark energy it's all bullshit I'm pretty sure.

    Saturated fats bad. Dietary cholesterol bad. Eggs bad. Dairy bad. Red meat bad. And on and on ad nauseam. Nutritional science is all fucking bullshit pretty much, especially when people love to reduce (too absurdity) it to like is that one thing you got to do or the one thing you can't do. People worried about salt when most animals will do things that could easily kill them just to get a little lick of salt.

    Importance of breakfast? Whatever. Any meal you eat is breaking your fast. There's no benefit to eating immediately after waking up.

    How about the eight glasses of water a day that's a bunch of bullshit.

    And considering how much science is epidemiological and it's just associations and no proof of causation but most people will lean on the causation anyway even if it's reverse causation, right.

    How about the serotonin deficiency cause of depression?

    Does moderate alcohol consumption have any benefits whatsoever?

    Are psychiatric diagnosis useful?

    Just how important is the microbiome?

    Using animal models in place of human models.

    How about the replication crisis? How about that about half of all scientific articles are bullshit and many of them get it retracted?

    How about the many interpretations of quantum mechanics? Which ones right which are wrong?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (10 children)

    Right, so you just don't know how the scientific method works.

    I'm honestly not trying to come off as a jerk, but I think you need to do some very basic learning about how science works, and how we know anything that we know (epistemology).

    Because you're about one step away from being against vaccines and like 1.5 steps away from denying "germ theory" entirely.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Lol.... Jerk? Nah. You're just fucking clueless. I wouldn't dare assume malevolence where it's obviously just ignorance. Have a blissful day.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (7 children)

    Coming from the person who said this:

    Big bang theory. Hell, probably most of cosmology. It’s all a bunch of bullshit. Our main theory was the brain fart of a Catholic priest and that’s now considered the “secular theory.” You can’t make this stuff up… Oh wait you can. From cosmic inflation to dark matter and dark energy it’s all bullshit I’m pretty sure.

    Take a fucking astronomy course dude, I dunno what else to tell you. Like... what do you think the scientific method actually is? Are you even aware of the concept or do you think people just make shit up and hope its real (we got lucky with airplanes and shit I guess)?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (6 children)

    Aerodynamics is a hard, applied science. It's highly testable and absolutely falsifiable.

    Cosmology is a lot of bullshit. Which should not be conflated with astronomy. The big bang is a creation myth. Admittedly one I was taught in school and I guess maybe I kind of took it seriously for a little while but no not really. When you actually look into the history of it and you see all the bullshit and all the special tuning and fine-tuning that they do to try to make it work... And it still doesn't work. Tensions abound. Catastrophes are another problem. I'm sure you've heard of the crisis in cosmology? Seems like come out with one of those at least once a month.

    Once you actually delve into the subject matter you realize it's a lot of interpretations a lot of frameworks that reinforce themselves. But their foundations are flimsy as air.

    For instance some people believe in dark matter or dark energy. I don't believe in cosmic inflation and I think we have a dark gravity problem where we don't understand gravity but if you use a bad model for gravity then you get other aberrations, like the aforementioned dark whatever.

    Take the CMB. Cosmic microwave background. Is that really seeing the edges of the observable universe? Some sort of big bang remnant? Or is it much more likely it's a collective noise from here to there collectively and it has a lot more to do with the locality rather than some far off edge of the observable universe or big bang remnant. So that's one bullshit base of the tower that's the foundation. If you take that out the rest of it collapses.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Yikes.

    Go to your local Community College and take an astronomy course. Please.

    They have these things called 'telescopes' now, it's amazing.

    There is this thing called red shift that proves that celestial bodies are moving away....

    Yeah you know what no sorry no. Not getting drawn into this shit with someone who clearly has no fucking concept of how science works (and is obnoxious about it).

    You need to speak with someone who does this for a living. I'm not being dismissive, I truly hope that you do.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    It's like looking at a chimp with a revolver. How did they even get it? Who knows, but they're definitely gonna hurt someone.

    A hypothesis is not a religion, dude. People (other than I suppose lay people with weirdly religious ideas) don't "believe in" dark matter or dark energy. These are fully falsifiable hypotheses just like Bernoulli's principle (since you reference aerodynamics). Cosmology is fully falsifiable and hypotheses are overturned all the time. CMB was predicted to exist before it was found and matched predictions, based on observations that lead to the Hubble constant, etc. The history of cosmological theory is easily available for you, if you cared to learn about it.

    Meanwhile, you ARE approaching these ideas religiously. You reject them because you "don't believe in them." That's bonkers. You don't need to accept or reject them on an emotional level. That's not how any of this works.

    I hope you're just a smart kid goofing around and riffing, and not someone who actually believes their own bullshit.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Hell, dark matter isn't even a hypothesis, it's purely an observation! In that sense, you're right that it's not falsifiable, only interpretable. It is a reality like the temperature. We don't hypothesize that it is 21C, we observe it. We DIRECTLY OBSERVE gravity that does not come from any known source; that's "dark matter." Likewise, we directly observe red shift and other effects of inflation. We call the unknown cause of those observations "dark energy." Neither are a specific thing that people believe in, they are labels for the effects that we directly observe.

    Casting that through some kind of quasi-religious lens and then attacking it as a crackpot beliefs is BIZARRE behavior.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Which hubble constant? Based on which methodology? You wanna explain the Hubble tension, dude?

    I reject them based on the fact that they're pseudoscience. The Big bang theory or as it's called the lamda cold dark matter model makes a ton of predictions and pretty much all of them are wrong. I think they maybe got one right...

    So they have predominantly been falsified, indeed. Yep people still "believe" in this even though they don't even understand the theory at all. That's called faith, kiddo.

    I'm not religious. I'm a scientist. I'm an engineer. I build stuff that actually works.

    You have next to nil idea what I think. Just a lot of assumptions. Making an ass out of yourself. Hey at least your username checks out, jerkface.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    No a good scientist tests hypotheses so they know if they're right or wrong. "Mainstream consensus science" is science that has been tested over and over and found, by scientific consensus, to be as correct as we currently understand. It, by definition, has tons of evidence.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago

    So you've never heard of a replication crisis. Cool

    And I guess you don't realize that a lot of "science" is statistical association only, with no clear causal factors whatsoever. So you can't test many hypothesis... Without setting up extensive RCTs... Which... Cost a lot of money and are filled with pitfalls.

    And then when new science does come out that shows the consensus has been wrong for decades most people miss the news and they continue to think the wrong thing for a few more decades until they die. And you skipped out on cheese and eggs and (unprocessed) red meat and whole fat dairy for fucking nothing.

    But that whole time you were chugging down them sodas and you're eating all kinds of food that were fat free but full of added sugars. It turns out big sugar paid off Harvard to ignore the evidence against sugar, and to just blame it all on fat.

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  • [–] 67 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Mike Rowe gave a platform to JD fucking Vance to spew his nazi bullshit.

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  • [–] [S] 63 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Thats cause Mike Rowe is a right wing twat, who likes to cosplay as blue collar

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    The other LMG talent is so good. Although I was really disappointed when they let Jonathan and Emily (fka Anthony) go.

    But I really enjoy Riley, and James and Elijah aren’t so bad either.

    Linus’ “I had to buy a private jet or I’ll lose money” video was so cringeworthy though

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Do you know why was emily let go? Did she do anything wrong? Or just because they didn't want a tran on camera?

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    When she first came out, she took her self off camera because she was afraid of abuse and backlash. As far as I know, Linus was nothing but supportive. She just never got back on camera at LMG and eventually moved on

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    It's sad but I'm hardly surprised she went offline, her coming out video got brigaded by the most disgusting 4chan scum

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    She's active on bluesky and I'm fairly certain starting her own YouTube channel (or already has? I forgot to follow up). I reached out once or twice to say hey, pass on support, and she always messages back.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    I still don’t get the hate for Linus. He worked hard, made money and now employs a lot of people. The majority of people who left have only nice things to say about him.

    Only a few have bad views and everyone has people who dislike them. A lot of the controversies seem like stupid oversights or mistakes rather than malicious.

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  • [–] 38 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    I definitely feel like he lost touch a long time ago.

    There was a video that was hosted at one of his employee's houses (I've tried to find the video before but couldn't) and there were multiple points where Linus was being incredibly rude to the guy's new home. He was making fun of things for looking cheap, and at one point stood on (or placed something heavy, I don't remember) a table as the owner asked several times not to in fear of it damaging the table. The video didn't really get much attention as far as I'm aware, but it left a bad taste in my mouth and I kinda stopped watching as many of their videos.

    A few years later the fiasco with the prototype they sold without permission happened and his reaction and the fallout that ensued took LTT off my subscription list.

    The video where he talks about how it just didn't make sense not to buy a private jet was so far beyond out of touch I don't know how anyone thought it was a good idea (the video, not the jet).

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    There was also a series of videos at his own new house where he's getting the LMG employees to work on things for him at his house.

    The power dynamic felt super off like he's rubbing his wealth in their (and our) faces. I'm not mad that he built a business, is doing well and got a nice house with his family. I would have been happy for his success, but the whole vibe of making that into content made it feel uncomfortable to watch. It felt more like he wanted to show off than it being about the tech.

    That, and the way he reacted to various scandals including the one you mentioned was extremely poor and his disingenuous reviews, I had to drop them, the list just kept growing.

    It's a shame because I liked a lot of the content and I really like Riley, James and the other staff as presenters but my heart sinks any time Linus' face appears again in my feed.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    There was also a series of videos at his own new house where he's getting the LMG employees to work on things for him at his house.

    Thank you for reminding me of another thing that put me off.

    One of the employees that left is quoted as saying, "there's a moment when you're working on your boss's third home when you start to wonder if you'll ever be able to afford your own".

    That stuck with me.

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