I pointed out the correct terminology for comms here on Lemmy. This is somehow blaming a victim. Help me understand.

The irony of just getting banned, no warning, from a power tripping comm about mod abuse is just next level.

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[–] 86 points 3 months ago

Lmao abused by a mod on the abuse hotline. Maybe it sounded a little pointed since its just text but wtf a ban? Lmao

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  • [–] 51 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

    It's pretty weird over on lemmy.sdf and I try to just take qrstuv (EDIT: this was wesker, not qrstuv. Wesker also gets up to some trolling) as some odd performance art. Funhole, Linux Surrealism, and bun alert are great, but most every other community is run by qrstuv, and they can be oddly tyrannical outside of Funhole. Their entire account is practically digital performance art. EDIT: Wesker tends to be a little bit more "normal" rather than too weird to die all the time, but there's still a ton of lighthearted in-joking and trolling going on.

    I'm pretty sure that community was originally created by qrstuv to bait someone who was being shit in the Funhole community into complaining about the legitimate moderation actions taken against them, then see how long it took them to realize they were being responded to by the very person who banned them.

    My take would be that, yes, it is absurd to call correcting terminology victim blaming, and that's the "joke".

    EDIT: I'd actually check the mod log to see if any action was taken against you besides a trolling comment. Would be willing to bet there isn't actually.

    Also, the joke of going: "Item A: blah, Item 2: blah" should be pointed out.

    It's not a legitimate mod abuse community, it's effectively a -jerk style comm for shitposting around the theme.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago

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    Huh... That is really deep in the in-joke nonsense weeds, thank you very much for filling us in on what the hell happened here, I'd have had no ability to ascertain any of this without your explanation

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    There's a Mitchell and Webb sketch about the Apprentice being full of idiots, for an audience of idiots. At the end, they note there are some non-idiots who watch out of a sense of irony.

    "And remind me, how do these ironic non-idiots show up in the ratings?"
    "They show up the same, my friend."

    So I'm not feeling much better knowing this is a mod abuse done ironically.

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  • [–] 47 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

    Hot damn a ban for that? I haven't looked at your history, which could change my opinion, but damn that seems harsh.

    I personally don't think you did anything, maybe tone was slightly harsher than it needed to be, but that's all I see. Hardly worth a ban. Ban for me as a mod is like you systematically bothered my users or went on a racist tirade or something.

    PTB

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  • [–] [S] 31 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    I mean, even IF my history had awful things, this was my first time interacting with that Comm and it was in an effort to help someone obviously new to Lemmy. Seeing harshness in my message is evidence that we all read things differently.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Nah, if you had a history of awful things and came in it would make me read your comment differently.

    That said, I saw no harshness in there.

    But I will say that your activity outside of a comm is definitely a factor for me as well. I won't preemptively ban, but it will mean way less leeway being given.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    No, it wouldn't be different unless he has a history of victim blaming

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    You really believe banning or removing someone post/comment for the wrong reason is right?

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    You know how you throw a party, and that one drunk neighbor shows up, pisses on your shrubbery, and cops a feel off your mom?

    It's okay to escort him out the door when he shows up at your cousin's bat mitzvah before he can cause trouble there.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago*

    I think that's a troll community, right? The problem here is that you are the onion.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago

    That community is a giant troll. EVERYTHING is victim blaming there, which means nearly everyone gets banned. Got myself banned quite a while back for practically nothing lol

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago

    I only saw the top of the image before coming to the comments. I was thinking to myself, who tf calls them sub reddits on lemmy? (eww that word...)

    And that's exactly what you said. I woulda gotten a ban too I guess.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    I'm sorry this happened to you.

    (It's a parody sub, so part of the joke is the wacky rules and bans.)

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Dumb. I'm sure it's just the height of comedy to someone.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Even the OP's complaint of the post you were responding do was BS. He says never heard of those communities, but looks like he was downvoting a bunch of posts in those communities, which seems to part of his schtick. He wrote "subreddits" on purpose to get people riled up. The whole thing is BS from the beginning that you got pulled into.

    Sure, it's kinda dumb and goofy. But at least now you know it wasn't serious, and your ban is only temp. When your ban is up in a couple of days, you can go and participate and even post your ban from there in there. Then you'll get a bunch of "So sorry that happened to you" And "poop in jail" comments.

    I personally think that Lemmy is too serious most of the time. Not that I'm a huge fan of that comm's humor, but it can be fun to roll with it sometimes.

    Unfortunately part of the joke is laughing at the newbies who go in there say something, then get banned. So whether you like the performance art or not, you've become a part of it! lol

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    If this is "joking", I'd rather just block the whole "sub" and move on. Seems pretty low effort, like covering a hole with a rug and laughing when someone falls in.

    I don't disagree about Lemmy being serious, but this is certainly not the antidote.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    The mods comment makes absolutely so sense. I want to think it was meant as a response to something else but it kinda just doesn't make sense in general.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago (13 children)

    My suspicion is that the sub is so tightly wound against "victim blaming" (aka, "not instantly agreeing with OP") that any correction is seen as opposition. My other suspicion, from looking at the comm and how often they mock this one, is that they tried and failed to play the victim here, and decided to make their own mod abuse comm with blackjack and hookers. PTB

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    Is there no "YDI" over there?

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I’m serious about the new “no victim blaming” rule. This is a safe space. This isn’t Ye Hippie Dippin’ Bastards where the village idiots are allowed to weigh in with their acronyms. Victim blaming is a banable offense now.

    That is a direct quote from a pinned mod message.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Ah, I see. It's a comm for defiant oppositional disorder-havers.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    everyone's trying to figure out where the victim blaming is, I'm more baffled by "you don't know that"

    we don't know that communities are called communities? we don't know that subreddits are on reddit? I guess we need this mod to drop a list of the things we're allowed to know

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    I'm sorry this happened to you.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    Haha, some people just have a stick up their ass.

    Lots of sophist bullshit like this gets tossed around these days, so people can rationaloze being an ass.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Mod abuse hotline is a circlejerk creation. It's not a place to call out mod abuse, it's a call for the mods to abuse you.

    A play on words and interpretations...

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    That's an odd community. They don't like this one very much and they like to comment something about pooping in jail. It's either teenagers or performance art.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Godmods - when the cure is worse than the disease.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago*

    We really need a clueless user acronym lol. Or maybe noob user? I dunno, something to cover when the situation is just a matter of stepping in a cow patty while walking in your living room. Wtf is it doing there? Oh, my brother is taking the piss again.

    Some communities aren't exactly normal, but you'd have to already be familiar with the fediverse and how some instances/communities are to know that you can't expect genuine discourse (be it from trolling, satire, or just batshit crazy mods/admins).

    That's what you ran into here. Wesker is.... well, Wesker, and that means a lot of weird shit mingled in with some otherwise entertaining shit. You got hit with the weird shit this time. You didn't do anything wrong, you just ended up in a crack house while looking for epsom salts to soak your bunions.

    Edit: also, you were correct and thank you for giving that information to someone with good manners the way you did :). Some folks get nasty about it

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    Yeah I don't know what their deal is but they're some kind of troll. I don't think PTB is quite right, but it's close enough.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Must have been mids first day on the job

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    Mods, please do something about all dis bictim blaming in this thread

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Anybody can be a mod or the president. Hang in there.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Just got banned for calling out a zionazi who deny the genocide in gaza and along anybody else who support the mod rightful actions

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    Somebody should troll and make a post about how they as a mod abuses their power

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  • [+] -9 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    Respectfully, both parties here have a stick up their ass. Nobody cares about correct Lemmy terminology, it's a clone of reddit, of course people use the same terms on here as well.

    Relevant classic pic from 4chan

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