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[–] 239 points 3 months ago (7 children)

If the surveillance cameras can’t even catch the persons who removed all of their cameras, then they have proven to be worthless at catching real criminals, with their only proven worth is stalking police officers ex wives.

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  • [+] -85 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    All Flock cameras do is identify cars. If you aren't a car, they can't see you. They aren't just mindlessly recording everything like an ordinary camera, so police can't look through the recordings to identify you.

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  • [–] 210 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    This is a known issue with flock systems, sometimes they just do that.

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  • [–] 137 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    This is a city of ~25K people, so quite small. Several articles have pointed out that the city, not Flock, bears the costs of the vandalism, so in this instance the city counsel that enabled the city to enter into the contract with Flock to the detriment of its citizens have now burdened the city with a substantial budget item. If the cameras are replaced, you can bet that they will likely be torn down again. At some point there will be a reckoning with voters, and hopefully the idiots that enabled the surveillance state will be voted out.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Even if it's the city that beats the cost, at some point they will decide it's no longer worth the cost to replace them.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Probably still paying for them even if not there. Some stupid contract.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Yes, but not paying for new cameras to be installed, and the contracts will end.

    My City Council made an agreement to install them early last year when they should have known better, but with all the recent backlash against them they're pretty much guaranteed not to renew the contract. I'm hoping they decide to cover the cameras for the remainder of the contract, but I'm not sure if the contract allows that.

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  • [+] -28 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Lol. You know that last sentence is satire or you are an idiot.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Fuck off. Voting works when people do it.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    We shouldn't be waiting for elections to come around to get rid of fascist politicians.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Last election in the US the people voted for the fascist politician. Knowing he was a fascist politician. Some stayed at home knowing the fascist politician could win.

    It might be that people just enjoy the fascism and the online echo chamber is not reflective of real life.

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  • [–] 60 points 3 months ago

    One witness said "I'm Glad members of the community do civic duties, but we don't need to active about finding their identity, I'm sure they did it as a gift for society"

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  • [–] 52 points 3 months ago

    Must have been the wind

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  • [–] 49 points 3 months ago* (5 children)
  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah, Winona isn't that big. But also a couple of those cameras were in very public locations. Most were just next to a forest lined highway and those would have been easy. But two of them were like a block away from a quiet suburban neighborhood. Still not sure how they managed to get those without getting caught. I can't imagine someone living nearby wouldn't have noticed someone outside running a reciprocating saw in the middle of the night.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I can't imagine someone living nearby wouldn't have noticed someone outside running a reciprocating saw in the middle of the night.

    That's literally the whole point. If you saw something - no you didn't.

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  • [+] 43 points 3 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 39 points 3 months ago

    It's called "Flock." Obviously, they all flew away! But you can't blame the PD for not knowing that; pigs don't know much about flying.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Flocks are known to take off and fly away on their own.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    How did they destroy the cameras without being seen by all the damn cameras?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    If you wear all black, do not show any skin or indicating marks, and vary your gait with a consistent stumble, then the cameras are useless. Remember to park out of sight of any cameras.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    It's obviously a villain who can be in hundreds of places at once because he was also fishing with half the town.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    I have to believe he's a time traveler who hasn't been born yet. He can't be I'D because he hasn't been given ID yet, and he can be in multiple places at once. Of course, if he were to appear beside me, I would have to buy him a drink in appreciation, too.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago

    Let me know if you find who did it, so I can go down on them until my jaw rots off.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 months ago

    Whomever the suspect was they were fucking my mother that night and there is no way they could have done it because it was going on all night long.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago

    All of Winona, Minnesota was with me, in Switzerland, on a river on an inflatable raft, enjoying the heat wave. Couldn't have been them.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    The cameras fell down on their own

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago

    "I was right there with a bodycam when they all tore themselves down but it was turned off for, uh, routine maintenance."

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    [–] 13 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I ain’t did it, I ain’t know who did it, and I ain’t never gonna convict anybody charged for doing this or any similar so-called crime if I’m on the jury

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    Hey man, it was higher power as far as I'm concerned.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    They were on the other side of the country with me

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Apparently the government stores hundreds of dollars in the cameras as a reward for helping take them down!

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Twas the spirit of paul bunyon

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    didn't you know flock cameras just do that

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    The Big Brown Beaver did it.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    HHEEEEEEYYYY!!! WHO TOOK OUR FLOCKKKSSSSS??!!!

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    They're easy to cut down for now. The next step is going to be making them radio antenna's that mount on light poles so they're way harder to see or reach. The camera function will get removed, since it isn't needed anyway.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    Since one goal is to make this such an expensive headache, not for Flock exactly, but for the cities paying for Flock, I don't think a light post should give anyone pause beyond proper PPE.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    No, they've already released the next step - it's a drone that watches from 2 kilofeet up.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I thought Winona had a big brown beaver...perhaps I was mistaken

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Idk why people bother cutting them. The poles they use are two part you can zip out the screws with a torx safety bit and just pull it off the pole. Cutting definitely takes more time

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I would very much like to know how tf people manage to steal a camera. To me it sounds like finding a way to get soap dirty.

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