If the surveillance cameras can’t even catch the persons who removed all of their cameras, then they have proven to be worthless at catching real criminals, with their only proven worth is stalking police officers ex wives.
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This is a known issue with flock systems, sometimes they just do that.
The weird thing is, if I ever see someone tearing down Flock cameras, actually no I didn't.
Agreed, a well known software bug is taking flock cameras down across the country. Hopefully they can fix it before it gets too out of hand.
The top fell off
This is a city of ~25K people, so quite small. Several articles have pointed out that the city, not Flock, bears the costs of the vandalism, so in this instance the city counsel that enabled the city to enter into the contract with Flock to the detriment of its citizens have now burdened the city with a substantial budget item. If the cameras are replaced, you can bet that they will likely be torn down again. At some point there will be a reckoning with voters, and hopefully the idiots that enabled the surveillance state will be voted out.
They don't even have to be voted out if the voters persuade them to resign.
Even if it's the city that beats the cost, at some point they will decide it's no longer worth the cost to replace them.
Probably still paying for them even if not there. Some stupid contract.
Yes, but not paying for new cameras to be installed, and the contracts will end.
My City Council made an agreement to install them early last year when they should have known better, but with all the recent backlash against them they're pretty much guaranteed not to renew the contract. I'm hoping they decide to cover the cameras for the remainder of the contract, but I'm not sure if the contract allows that.
Maybe. But still incentivizes not renewing the contract. One can hope.
That money will be gone either way, might as well not have the dystopian cams.
Lol. You know that last sentence is satire or you are an idiot.
Fuck off. Voting works when people do it.
We shouldn't be waiting for elections to come around to get rid of fascist politicians.
You’re right but that’s not at all what I was saying or pushing back against so thanks I suppose.
Last election in the US the people voted for the fascist politician. Knowing he was a fascist politician. Some stayed at home knowing the fascist politician could win.
It might be that people just enjoy the fascism and the online echo chamber is not reflective of real life.
One witness said "I'm Glad members of the community do civic duties, but we don't need to active about finding their identity, I'm sure they did it as a gift for society"
Amazing. How true is this? Anyone got a source?
Edit: ah, they only had 8 cameras. Still, that's amazing.
Yeah, Winona isn't that big. But also a couple of those cameras were in very public locations. Most were just next to a forest lined highway and those would have been easy. But two of them were like a block away from a quiet suburban neighborhood. Still not sure how they managed to get those without getting caught. I can't imagine someone living nearby wouldn't have noticed someone outside running a reciprocating saw in the middle of the night.
I can't imagine someone living nearby wouldn't have noticed someone outside running a reciprocating saw in the middle of the night.
That's literally the whole point. If you saw something - no you didn't.
If a group of birds are called a flock.
Is a group of flocks called a bird?
It's called "Flock." Obviously, they all flew away! But you can't blame the PD for not knowing that; pigs don't know much about flying.
Flocks are known to take off and fly away on their own.
so ? where do they end up then. do the Flocks just go into space.
How did they destroy the cameras without being seen by all the damn cameras?
If you wear all black, do not show any skin or indicating marks, and vary your gait with a consistent stumble, then the cameras are useless. Remember to park out of sight of any cameras.
It's obviously a villain who can be in hundreds of places at once because he was also fishing with half the town.
Let me know if you find who did it, so I can go down on them until my jaw rots off.
Whomever the suspect was they were fucking my mother that night and there is no way they could have done it because it was going on all night long.
All of Winona, Minnesota was with me, in Switzerland, on a river on an inflatable raft, enjoying the heat wave. Couldn't have been them.
"I was right there with a bodycam when they all tore themselves down but it was turned off for, uh, routine maintenance."
I ain’t did it, I ain’t know who did it, and I ain’t never gonna convict anybody charged for doing this or any similar so-called crime if I’m on the jury
Apparently the government stores hundreds of dollars in the cameras as a reward for helping take them down!
They're easy to cut down for now. The next step is going to be making them radio antenna's that mount on light poles so they're way harder to see or reach. The camera function will get removed, since it isn't needed anyway.
Since one goal is to make this such an expensive headache, not for Flock exactly, but for the cities paying for Flock, I don't think a light post should give anyone pause beyond proper PPE.
Theyre already on light poles I'm petty sure. My flock detector went off in a part of a road that's only trees and utility poles
No, they've already released the next step - it's a drone that watches from 2 kilofeet up.
kft feels like a cursed unit of measurement
Guess I have to start training on shooting at a 45 degree angle up, instead of head on.
Thanks for the tip!
Imagine the cost of doing that.
And they still won't be able to track every person they want like they can do now.
I call that a win.
I thought Winona had a big brown beaver...perhaps I was mistaken
Idk why people bother cutting them. The poles they use are two part you can zip out the screws with a torx safety bit and just pull it off the pole. Cutting definitely takes more time
I would very much like to know how tf people manage to steal a camera. To me it sounds like finding a way to get soap dirty.


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