What about driverless trains?
Double less crashes.
What about driverless trains?
Double less crashes.
As a European, I hope this shit stays off of our streets forever.
Yay for more traffic accidents!
Idk if you realize how many less car accidents europeans have per capita
We could have even less if we allow progress.
Maybe, but the increase in surveillance, emergency service obstruction, and the weird traffic problems start to dominate the discussion on cost benefits.
Imo, remote car services like waymo wanted to expand they would target more car oriented cities: mexico city, vancouver BC, etc.
You're confusing driverless cars with machines that reduce traffic accidents. Driverless cars are machines that detect when an accident is unavoidable and quickly disables self-driving so the accident can count as human-caused in the crash statistics.
Or bicycles!
Driverless bicycles!
Those by definition can't exist - a bicycle must be powered through muscles for a significant portion, about 25-50% at least. Even electric bicycles still are mainly muscle-powered.
And do you know what trains and trams crash into? Its not other trains and trams...
Trains sometimes crash into each other. It isn't common, but it happens
Actually in my city a tram crashed on another tram literally two days ago. Also train hitting trains is a thing. But yes, trams and trains crashing into trams and trains because the tram/train driver's action sure is near zero compared to the number of trams crashing into cars because of the car driver's action.
Edit: so today another crash happened here, must be a shitty week for whoever insures these people:
I was going to comment that the only train I have personally seen hit something, hit a car.
Also, humans driving cars, because it's pretty easy to have fewer 'crashes' when you just omit a heap of crashes.
“the analysis excluded minor incidents involving Waymos that would likely not have been reported to the police had a human been driving,”
Interesting. Same data in USA says the robo taxis were almost twice as likely per million miles (I last checked few months to half a year ago) to be in incident as human drivers.
As usual, Musk is most likely the one skewing the statistics.
His cars, whether on commercial "full self driving" mode (which it isn't, at all) or whether they're the commercial robo-taxis, have all kinds of driving and safety issues. Almost everyone other than Musk has very few issues.
wait hear me out. what if the driverless cars had special roads built for them and they were larger so they could carry more passangers!
But if you're on rails, how are you supposed to steer out of the way of obstacles? That would never work
-Some politician probably
The problem is Americans hate other Americans. And they’d rather do the hating from inside their own death cage.
Our local LRT crashes into cars so regularly, there's a tally on the subreddit sidebar.
100% true, but currently the areas these waymos are active aren't going to install trains or rail lines. The Phoenix area Waymo operates in for instance is your typical asphalt hellscape that wouldn't work well with trains because of how the area was designed for cars (rip). Not ideal but I rather drive next to a waymo than a human in these areas, the humans are insane drivers.
Yes yes fuck cars but this is an improvement imo
Phoenix is a perfect city for trolley/tram lines. You have perfectly straight gigantic roads laid out in an uninterrupted grid. It would be quite easy to run rails down the middle of the streets.
Dear GOD this city looks like a synthetic nightmare, I love not living around any centrally planned cities.

The Bay Area which actually has some public transit? They’ve been active here before any of the other sites (although they allowed public rides in Phoenix earlier).
Maybe because the car industry keeps lobbying against public transport
Taxis have been a thing for a long time, why do you want a car that runs on predictions? Not to mention the cameras that can probably stare at you from every angle not to mention that most likely operators from third world country can see that data easily.
Public transport is one of the most optimal solution to any city, it's cheap, you'll get some steps in since it doesn't drop you directly to your location, cleans up the air and reduces noise.
Said like someone who's never been to a place with a halfway decent rail system. But yeah its the trains fault, not the moneyed interest forcing you to take a single cabin rail car that can ride on surface streets, and barely recognize a person in a crosswalk.
Self driving cars would work fine if the roads weren't designed for human use (traffic lights, lanes etc). They would all just flow like a flock of birds. Unfortunately, redesigning the roads all in one go would be more difficult than convincing Americans to use a sensible unit of measurement.
Sadly you can't redesign roads for non-human use as it's humans living in cities, not waymos.
Cities should be designed for people, not cars
I'm talking about roads here. Thanks for the input.
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