3a it shows up in an Amazon box delivered by an Amazon truck.

Some places don’t. 3M, for example, in spite of how big it is. I needed P100 filters. I go to 3M which links me to Amazon. I could go to Home Depot, or buy from the Amazon 3M store and pay 2/3 to half.

WEN. A tool company that actually sells their own from their site. For whatever reason, their stuff is 10% more expensive on their own site, plus shipping.

And let’s not forget returns, which are free, easy and require no packaging most of the time with Amazon. I hate to say it, but they’ve got keeping people hooked figured out.

Walmart does well. The shipping is faster with no membership. And the returns are easier than Amazon. Provided you make sure the “fulfilled by Walmart” box is checked. But it’s Walmart, run by shitheads and associated with Heritage.

Michaels does alright on the crafting materials side. As does Blick, on art supplies. Fabric Warehouse is fairly solid for fabric though their selection is a bit random.

People I’ve talked to actually like shopping in just one place. So you’re combatting the “one stop shopping” thing as well.

Step 6: Product comes shipped in an Amazon box using Amazon couriers :facepalm:

2b. Company thinks their online store is a boutique and sell the stuff for 50% more than Amazon

Somehow it happens even more often with small businesses. My city is small and irrelevant, so when I saw a book with the history of it, I wanted to buy it. On Amazon it was sold for 15% off, on marketplace directly by the publisher + free shipping. So I went to buy it on the publisher website and... MSRP + need to pay shipping

This publisher was doing a war price against itself. A small niche book where you're the only one to sell it. Why would you need to discount this heavily on Amazon?

Numbers:

On Amazon: 13€ + shipping paid by the seller (+customer has free returns in one month). They can't have more than 50 cents of profit for each copy sold

On their own website: 15€+5€ shipping (+customer needs to pay 7€ to return it within 2 weeks). Healthy profit for each copy sold.

You need to be an anti-bezos activist to choose the second option, though.

If Amazon's algorithms detect that a seller is offering the same item cheaper elsewhere (including on the seller's own e-commerce site, then Amazon will immediately strip the listing of the "Add to Cart" or "Buy Now" buttons. The algorithm will also hide or suppress the listing from search results. And for repeated or severe violations (especially related to price-gouging), Amazon may suspend or terminate selling privileges completely for sellers selling cheaper off site. And they call this "Marketplace Fair Pricing Policy". F- Amazon.

What if 2a is slightly more than amazon and no free shipping?

Or free shipping on orders $40+, but everything is $39.95.

Honestly I've mostly been finding items cheaper on Amazon either because you'd have to pay for shipping on it, or because they just entirely neglect their website since nobody uses it.

Also that only really applies to "real" brands, not the gibberish named brands. Those companies only exist to use Amazons brand registry for better SEO and probably don't even have a website. AINOPE is not a "real" company, they just slap their name on whitelabel products. Of course the first random one I picked does have one, but it is more expensive than amazon.

2.a.i.) find out they don't have an actual shop, they just send you to Amazon

While I support the intent, I've personally found that:

1. Half the time the company either doesn't exist off Amazon or uses Amazon for their order fulfillment.
2. See #1
3. Price frequently ends up being mostly the same. I'm not sure if this is due to something that Amazon forces on companies, so they may have no choice.
4. Shipping ends up being expensive and is definitely not in 2 days, more like 6-10.
5. Spot on and perhaps still worth it for this reason alone.

I just try to buy what I can locally and avoid the larger companies that are all pretty disgusting. While Bezos is definitely the richest and most evil, make no mistake that the other companies would be in his place in a heartbeat if they could.

6. Amazon still delivered the product because they use Amazon for their own fulfillment.

Literally just had this happen.

I thought i was ordering a product directly from a company and avoiding Amazon. The thing was delivered in an Amazon package

Is there a browser extension that does this automatically? There should be.

ah yes, i do love buying from GAAMALASORF LLC. the family photos on their website are so charming.

One big antitrust issue with Amazon is that they require vendors to use their fulfillment services in order to get the best terms on being listed on Amazon: prime shipping, etc.

That deal for shipping/fulfillment itself isn't too bad, even if they charge a pretty high price to sellers for the service, because the seller is actually getting something valuable in return, and it's hard for Amazon to promise fast shipping not in their control.

But the FTC lawsuit a while back alleged that Amazon does more than that. They downgrade the search results of anyone who isn't a paying advertiser, so they're squeezing sellers in more ways than one. And worse, part of the contract for fulfillment is a prohibition on competing with Amazon's listed price.

So if you're selling something that you need $30 to earn a profit, and it costs you 40% to list on Amazon, you'll need to list it at $50 on Amazon in order to make your profit, and you've hamstrung yourself from selling that same thing for $30 on your own site and turning the same profit by cutting Amazon out. That's what's anticompetitive and harms the consumer, even when that consumer intentionally avoids Amazon and goes straight to the seller's own site.

I do not get the appeal of Amazon. Every time I go there to buy something its filled with knock of junk at regular prices.

Last time I did this I ordered from the companies website actually paid a couple dollars more and it shipped from an Amazon warehouse.

Sounds a lot simpler than it actually is.

Amazon has a Most Favored Nation policy which means sellers can't sell for cheaper elsewhere than they can on Amazon. This includes most coupons/discounts.

A good example would be Anker. You can Buy this power bank for $180 on Amazon, or $230 on their website, but with a discount code that only goes down to the exact same $180 price on Amazon, and is just there to make you hopefully choose to buy from their site in the future thinking you're getting a better deal. You will not find a discount on their site that goes lower than the Amazon price for that same item and colorway.

If brands add coupons that drop prices lower than they sell for on Amazon, Amazon will delist them from Amazon entirely and they'll lose most of their customers.

Now, consider that most people will either already have Prime, or will probably get at least the same minimum order value for free shipping on Amazon, but will be able to add items from ANY brand to get to that minimum, compared to other seller sites that obviously only sell their own products, and most people will end up paying more for shipping too.

It's reasonable to do if you're willing to spend a few extra bucks in order to give a company a substantially larger share of your money because you want to support them and not Amazon, but it's just not tenable for most people when they have to pay an additional $6 per brand they buy from with every order for shipping, not to mention that a lot of brands just don't even bother to price-match Amazon discounts on their own sites, meaning they can sometimes be more pricey than just buying from Amazon.

If I'd purchased everything I bought on Amazon in the past year from other brands, I'd have paid over two to three hundred dollars in shipping alone given the variety of brands that I get things from that I would not be meeting the order minimums for, not to mention the prices often not being as low as Amazon's since they don't bother updating their site as much. I wish I didn't have to buy from Amazon, but I also can't afford spending hundreds of dollars in exchange for nothing every single year to do so.

Tried that, the company fulfills web orders with Amazon.

Now I just buy local.

I do this a lot because often the company website has more product selection than what is soleld on Amazon. So, it is a net win for shoppers. Bonus! Sometimes the company's prices are slightly lower than Amazon (even without the code).

I want something like amazon as a public utility. But much better, Amazon is such shit as a website today. And with 0% take from producer. And make online banking and free instant wire transfer as easy as using paypal, but without paying a rent to plutocrats. Two factor authentication using phone is a plague.

This isn't always an option, unfortunately. Some books for example are only available on Amazon. When I go to the author's website, they just link to Amazon.

That company is more often than not Aliexpress.

I tried that last year with a power supply, but the little German company that made it sold it only on Amazon :-(