Henrico County is a major hub for data centers in Virginia. Its officials said it expects a 25% rise in electricity costs next year, and advised workers to close the blinds and turn off their computers to make up for it.

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[–] 229 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

We all see this coming, but the billionaires and our state/county/city leaders assure us everything will be fair and fine.

Same deal with water. It will be 100 degrees and data centers will be draining local water supplies, while residents will be told not to water their flowers or take too many showers.

Fuck all this.

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  • It will be 100 degrees and data centers will be draining local water supplies, while residents will be told not to water their flowers or take too many showers.

    Wasn't this already the case like 2 years ago in Texas? Except I remember the governor telling people to drink less water and shower together when possible to save water for the data centers.

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    [–] 95 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    California: 80% of water use is agricultural and industrial but who do they lean on in drought years? Jimmy fucking John and minute showers. Corporations will not budge without force so state goes after the soft target.

    Same play here.

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  • [–] 53 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    California also has the stupidest water rights with “use it or lose” it clauses that counters any incentives to become more efficient. A couple families control a ridiculous amount of water rights.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    The problem is that data centers don't need water, they need cooling, and water is suitable for that because it's the cheapest. They could do the cooling in many other ways, but it costs money

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    The other ways cost money, make noise, and consume more power.

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  • [–] 70 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    So it's official now. AI comes before schools, and before children. Welp. So much for thinking about the children.

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  • [–] 39 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    The children only matter in election cycles

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  • [–] 65 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    We need Anonymous to do something about data centers.

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  • [–] 98 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    In Virginia during the fifa World Cup there are a lot of pro data center ads funded by a group that was created for this purpose called Virginia Connects.

    It’s the usual shitbags lying to the public to make it sound like data centers are good

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago*

    In Virginia ads are still running about not leaving rural Virginians behind by banning data centers. Claiming that they will bring jobs to the rural community but those nasty politicians are banning the progress of data centers.

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago

    Please sir...can I have some more....electricity

    said the poor school to the billionaires

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I guess they could light a data center on fire to keep warm and not run their heaters? Win/win?
    (Also I hope it’s very obvious to everyone this is a joke, I’m not trying no to incite or encourage violence in any way at all).

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Killdozer needs to come back...

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Are they keeping profits from data centres away from schools?

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Educating the kids would be a waste of taxpayer dollars. The only training they need is how to mow the grass around the data centres.

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    I never understood why we’re supposed to need to be ‘taught’ how to use AI if it’s so good at natural language processing. If the reference desk librarian can understand it and give you what you actually want (not necessarily the exact thing you’re asking for), so should anything being touted as AI.

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  • [+] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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    I least they got all that money and jobs (right? I'm pretty sure Facebook skirted that actually)

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago*

    Don’t need school if you have chat gpt /s

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago

    County with 37 datacenters can go fuck itself with a cactus.

    here come the brownouts motherfuckers...

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    Well.. duh. Data center makes dollar, schools costs dollar

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    An interesting one there, how can schools consumption be compared to that of Data centers

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    No. Next fucking question. I'd rather data centers have brown-outs than schools.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Here's an archive link for the few who actually want to read the article.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    How does closing the blinds conserve electricity? O_o

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    Oh that's right, y'all got AC back there. I forgor.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    I know Europe is scant on AC in general, but you guys really don't even use it in schools? That seems wild to me.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    No AC in schools. School is out in the summer in general.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Most buildings don't have them. Why would schools be any different? Our secondary school was culturally protected so even if they wanted to install one they probably could not. And the only time heat was an issue was during covid when we got assigned the attic classroom. All the other rooms were alright.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I wonder if there's any chance of all the tech speculation helping to fund electrical grid upgrades (including grid scale storage for renewables) that actually benefit regular human society after the bubble pops.

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    Seems unlikely unless the bubble survives another 5+ years. My guess is power companies are taking AI contracts and cash now, promising to add capacity later, and then when the bubble pops they will shrug, say no more capacity is needed, and give the CEOs a huge bonus.

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    [–] 60 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Putting the accountability on SCHOOLS of all things is absurd. Even ignoring data centers, I can assure you there are other facilities that use more power than schools and provide less to the people

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago

    The local government doesn't pay for the data centers electricity though, at least not directly. This is their rate going up so they ask their public facilities to save energy. It's a reasonable response from them, but they should have prevented it by not allowing so many data centers.

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  • [–] 47 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    These data centers should be charged enough that there's no increase for anyone else in the area. They contribute nothing to the community. The only benefit that can be extracted from them locally is to charge and tax the absolute fuck out of the companies building them in every possible way.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Contribute nothing to the community? Are you crazy? They use lots of water. They make a lot of noise. They are typically eyesores. That's a contribution.

    Of sorts.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Nah, they should be forced to stop operation until they build renewable power plans that produce 2x the energy that they consume in one day.

    They should benefit the community, not just be a net 0.

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    [–] 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    It's well worth it if you ask me. The school children can sit in the dark and hot/cold (delete as appropriate) so Bob in Idaho can generate a 30 second video of Yoda dancing to Wannabe in the style of Studio Ghibli, which he will look at once and then never again.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I know you are doing memes here, but I’d like to point out that the AI’s output (in a big tech “human replacement” situation) isn’t the end product, it is merely marketing, propaganda of the “ultimate solution”, worthy of throwing all the computing power in the world at it, at the expense of you ever owning any.

    It’s mimicry so impressive, you are no longer even worthy to touch the same brush, to hum the same tune, to stroke the same ink upon the page.

    They will take it from you for you simply do not understand. After all, how could you?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I recognize that this is perhaps the motivation of the tech's peddlers right now. It's not a foregone conclusion that this is what's going to happen.

    Just from an economic angle, they need somebody to pay for all of this. It isn't self sustaining. If we have no more jobs, no more artists, and all live broke, hand to mouth, who is going to pay for all this processing hardware they bought on credit, let alone the services they try to push on us that don't work? Until they can plug us in like in the Matrix there's still hope.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago
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    [–] 24 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    How about just disconnecting the data centers from the grid? Or make them pay the extra cost?

    No, won't happen, because that would be the smart and sensible way. And that's not the way the politicians are bribed for.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago
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    [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    I think the term is Natural Monopoly.

    When there’s no reason to run a second set of extremely expensive infrastructure to people’s homes, it needs government oversight. That government oversight should have established a median electricity usage level for businesses and residences, and applied pricing accordingly - with tiers based on usage levels. Every 1000kwh, the price goes up. Small houses get electricity effectively for cost of delivery, while data centres pay for what they use and more.

    But then the data centres might be in another county and we couldn’t lose the 2 full time jobs!

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