Aother vote for AirVPN. Been with them for years and they have always been solid. Also port forwarding!

This honestly seem pretty good, they even offer mail aliasing. I think I'm gonna migrate to them once my one year subscription to Mullvad end.

Isn't he the founder?

also i think they're technically nazbols.

what's a nazbol?

This is likely true, but in the hacker news thread about this, the non Nazi cofounder was pretty defensive about what a great guy he was, and that there was just no way that him being a Nazi could ever effect Mullvad itself:

Here's one example, but these linked thread has more excuses hes made:

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I'm sorry to hear that. For what it's worth I think there's nuance in his decision that most people don't see. Of course that doesn't mean I think it was the right decision to make.

Here's something worth considering: why would someone whose ideal is open borders, who has been an animal rights activist, and someone who has led Mullvad for 17 years (with the track record it has), choose to donate to this party? If you like what Daniel and I have done together over the past 17 years, and now vehemently oppose his choice to make this donation, doesn't that make you just a little bit curious?

It made me curious. It didn't change my ultimate stance, but it did temper my emotions about it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=kfreds

That level of denial feels custom made for them to give him a pass and keep him onboard.

This is the only reason for why I haven't demanded a refund of my remaining balance yet. I'm holding out for a dismissal or something.

have they released an official statement about it?

Link to the article?

I agree that any provider is going to have something awful about them, but you can't just conclude that supporting this type of thing is fine because everyone is awful.

Wasn’t Proton’s CEO in some hot water a year or so ago, or was that a bunch of hooey? I know it’s impossible to find an ethical CEO, but just curious.

…sure I could look it up, but my phone battery sucks and it helps boost activity.

Same boat, really don't want to keep supporting them, because of the reasons others have mentioned. But I have something like four or five emails, not to mentioned hundreds of relays, it would be really hard to lose if I ditched them as my provider.

Same here, the cost is just way more worth it if you already pay for other Proton services.

Does seem like IVPN is closer to Mullvad in how it works though for people who just want to pay for a VPN separately. No email needed for an account, similar price, open-source clients. Also debubks misinformation used by VPN peddlers to convince people to buy VPNs who don't need one.

https://piefed.blahaj.zone/c/privacy@lemmy.ml/p/838706/mullvad-founder-donated-5-million-sek-to-populist-orebro-party

Imagine someone unironically using Facebook's VPN service.

I don't want to be mean to you, as it might be just ignorance.

But my dude, why did you decide to use Inaccessible photo instead of using text or at the very least Text +photo?

If I suffer from any condition that affect my vision or my reading /understanding... how am I supposed to read this?

You included AirVPN in that list even though they aren't mentioned in either of your screenshots.. maybe a typo? I've never heard of them being associated with Kape so am curious why you lumped them into all that.

What's wrong with Nord?

What's wrong with PIA? I thought they have shown that they do not store any data more than once.

Interesting, I have never heard of them. Honestly my first glance is I don't like their website. It looks way too investor/shill heavy which worries me about the longevity/future of the platform.

I like the concept of a decentralized system if they can promise reliability and privacy across all nodes I am concerned about how privacy will be retained when a node is established in an external country that has more restrictive government controls.

I heavy dislike the fact it auto renews. That right there is a huge red flag for me because that means whatever payment information I provided, is being stored in a way that it can be linked directly to my account. With Mullvad once the 30 day window is up, they toss the payment token so it's no longer associated/linked with the account, instead relying on you to have to provide a piece of info that they can connect to the account if you have account issues. While they can say that they don't link accounts to activity, I heavily dislike the potential that it could be done in the future, especially since they are very upfront about it being blockchain so that tells me the information is permanent/never removed.

What's the story with them charging much less if you pay with their crypto currency?

Yeah, that's what I use. Switched from Mullvad after they dropped port forwarding.

Same here, haven't had any issues with the free version so far.

Weird to say Proton is the lesser of the two evils, but not by much.

Mullvad donated to a actual right-wing fascist party.

Proton's owner complimented the US government and gave away customer data.

Been using it myself for some years but the up speeds are really ass max I got was 5MB/s up. In speed tests ~300mbit up while my server was in an actual Datacenter with multi gibt connection I switched to proton and got throttled at 1gbit which is a lot better

Oh and someone was hosting a Tor endpoint on one of there vpns which gets the IP Blacklisted and you potentially banned from some trackers. support just closed my complaint without comment.

+1 for AirVPN. I'm a little worried of what happens if it becomes more mainstream (see what happened to mullvad and their port forwarding features), but they're rock solid and still support port forwarding for p2p. They also do good black friday sales every year, you can get a steal on the 3yr package around that time.

I've been using Surfshark for over 8 years and don't have any trouble like you mentioned. Then again, I have an ISP (Freedom Internet) I trust more than my VPN (even though i've not read anything bad about them) and use Surfshark only for region checks and torrenting on my NAS. I love the apps (for great on all platforms), speed and lots of exit points to choose from.

That sounds nice. Takes a bit of a commitment looking at their pricing, but i'm willing to, if they deliver a good product.

They are talking some good shit about this too:

https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/windscribe-trolls-mullvads-political-donation-crisis-with-a-scandal-of-its-own

Looks good.

Not assholes. Wireguard support. Port forwarding et cetera.

I was looking at IVPN. I still have some research to do but I haven't found anything sketchy on them so far.