I used Mullvad for a long time, but hearing about one of the two CEOs actively supporting and financing swedish Nazis, I'm looking to put my money elsewhere. That's the second one after Private Internet Access (who supported Gab).

I had AirVPN and Surfshark being recomnended, how do people here feel? What do you use?

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[–] 81 points 4 months ago* (35 children)

there was an article today about the entire mullvad company being blindsided by this and a lot of people being upset. with any luck the guy will leave or get thrown out.

also i think they're technically nazbols.

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    Cofounder, and 50% owner. For him to get kicked out would take a lot.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    he could be a rational human about it and see that it's bad for the brand. considering he was willing to work with a guy that actively dislikes what he did he may have a few braincells left.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    also i think they're technically nazbols.

    what's a nazbol?

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    National Bolsheviks, in essence merging nazism with communism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevism

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Nazbols want to unify socialist economic planning with imperialism. They were purged by Stalin and the Bolsheviks for wanting to engage in imperialism, and also saw popularity in Germany. Essentially a far-right ideology that stands against socialist internationalism.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    This is likely true, but in the hacker news thread about this, the non Nazi cofounder was pretty defensive about what a great guy he was, and that there was just no way that him being a Nazi could ever effect Mullvad itself:

    Here's one example, but these linked thread has more excuses hes made:

    kfreds 1 day ago | root | parent | next [–]

    I'm sorry to hear that. For what it's worth I think there's nuance in his decision that most people don't see. Of course that doesn't mean I think it was the right decision to make.

    Here's something worth considering: why would someone whose ideal is open borders, who has been an animal rights activist, and someone who has led Mullvad for 17 years (with the track record it has), choose to donate to this party? If you like what Daniel and I have done together over the past 17 years, and now vehemently oppose his choice to make this donation, doesn't that make you just a little bit curious?

    It made me curious. It didn't change my ultimate stance, but it did temper my emotions about it.

    https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=kfreds

    That level of denial feels custom made for them to give him a pass and keep him onboard.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    This is the only reason for why I haven't demanded a refund of my remaining balance yet. I'm holding out for a dismissal or something.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Demanding a refund could add to the pressure though, you could always renew after he (hopefully) goes. I can't get a refund since mine has just run out but I'm not making any long-term decisions until the dust has settled.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    I totally agree! It's just that I have two routers setup with them, running 24/7, and I have configured mom's devices with my account and I don't have the time to reconfigure all this with something else at the moment. 😩

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    have they released an official statement about it?

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