A new state law limits Florida communities’ aims to offset greenhouse gas emissions that are warming the global climate and intensifying disasters such as hurricanes.

Specifically, HB 1217 prohibits local governments from pursuing net-zero emissions goals. At least 10 cities and counties have implemented such policies, including Fort Lauderdale, Miami, Orlando, and Leon County, where Tallahassee, the state capital, is located. But the new law will not necessarily upend these policies, said Bradley Marshall, senior attorney at Earthjustice, an advocacy group.

“It’s certainly meant to scare municipalities and local governments from trying to do things to further net-zero policies,” he said. “Now, its exact impact and what it exactly prohibits is probably up for some debate. Things that are adjacent to it—emissions reductions and even climate change reduction policies—on their face will not run afoul at all of a ban on adopting a net zero policy.”

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[–] 90 points 4 months ago (15 children)

how can we drive up property values

sink half of our state beneath the waves

brilliant

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    I have no idea why their property is worth anything. Well I do, ignorant boomers. That market will someday crash though, as the sea retakes everything and the majority of younger folks have no interest in moving there.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Disneyland will become the new Atlantis

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Tells you how much I give a shit about that multibillion dollar company.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Just implying that I don't care enough about Disney to learn which of their theme parks are officially named what. Imo it's confusing. Just call both Disneyland/world City it's located, like how Lego does it.

    Edit: and no one should care enough about Disney to know which park is which. Because it ultimately doesn't matter.

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  • [–] 68 points 4 months ago

    “We’re gonna need you to burn at least 500lbs of tires for every tree planted.”

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  • [–] 57 points 4 months ago

    Everyone who supported this bill is a climate criminal and should have a punishment proportional to poisoning every living person on the planet.

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    No no, see it can be big as long as it works for the corporations, or, uh, we mean the people. It can be big as long as it works for the people. Wait no, that's not right either.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It was meant for economic stuff. Same with how they pursued "economic individualism" rather than "self expression", even if some young conservatives think otherwise.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    What's crazy is that I read “economic individualism” and immediately think of solar power, composting toilets, salvaged building materials, minimal new construction - basically all the eco-hippie-shit they rail against.

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  • [–] 47 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Let's go 'net-negative' policies

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  • [–] 44 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I didn't think they'd be that dumb and leave a loophole for net-negative policies, but holy shit:

    "Net zero policy" means any policy, program, or initiative designed to achieve a balance between total amount of greenhouse gas emitted into the atmosphere with an equal amount removed from the atmosphere.

    It literally is net-zero. Removing more CO2 than you emit is absolutely allowed.

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  • [–] 39 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I love the small government party

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  • [–] 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Republicans really coming in clutch with that whole "small government and freedom" schtick, aint they.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I've been told that only applies to the overall federal, and that states rights are important (somehow city & counties don't have those)... oddly enough these are the same places that claim that slavery wasn't the reason for the civil war.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Which state rights was the civil war fought over‽ That question usually undermines the racist state rights arguments from the new Nazi party

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    They make up a lot of fun things that aren't factual. I'm also super salty about how small government makes sure my local government can't do anything we want them to do through voting... but if these people acted on actual principles they'd have no one in office right now.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    The measure requires local governments to submit an affidavit annually to the state Department of Revenue verifying compliance. Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, signed the measure on April 22, Earth Day, and the law will take effect July 1. It states that “net zero policies, carbon taxes and assessments, and emission trading programs are detrimental to this state’s energy security and economic interests and inconsistent with the energy policy and the environmental policy of this state.”

    Jesus this is bad policy. Let people find energy wherever they want.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Their state is going to be under water in ten years...

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    They don't care, because Jesus is coming back.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    This is unironically what my parents believe.

    The ultimate sunk cost, I guess. Too late to change your beliefs now, you've already damned your grandchildren to a burning planet. Well done.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    I get more worried every day shit like this comes out that the conspiracy theory that the rich want to accelerate the end of the world faster is true.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Oil dependence is use as a of controlling the world. Renewables changes that control. Therefore Renewables must be stopped.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    In the same way slave owners fought against freeing slaves as that would mean losing a whole lot of power. Oil embargoes are much less effective against a country that has 100% renewables.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago*

    Not the world, just the bulk of humanity. We're cluttering the place up and ruining their nice views and beaches and such. As long as there are enough left to serve their needs she produce attractive children for them, the rest of us are quickly becoming unnecessary problems.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    I've never heard this theory please share it.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    From what I've seen it is basically that. The elite are building bunkers to live and plan on destroying the planet somehow, that way they can everything when they emerge from their bunkers. That or they are part of some armageddon cult where they can feel the power of destroying nations or something.

    If I had the details I'd link them, its just things I've seen in passing.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    They will be net zero when they are smooth expanse of shallow water

    Soon enough.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    New target: Net Negative

    Florida the carbon sink

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago

    So... A "small" government is acting like a big brother...

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Not even sure if this is legally enforceable past being a guideline.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago*

    We didn't know it was a documentary about Republicans back then.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago

    Now, its exact impact and what it exactly prohibits is probably up for some debate.

    So it has no business being a law.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago

    next week from florida: “florida bans humans from having a nice day”

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    Love me that freedom

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    [–] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Freedom's just another word for "admit that Christ is in charge and I am his king here on earth" to these Republican-Nazi bastards.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    MAGA hates Meatball

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Are they weaponizing climate or trying to make most of the planet inhabitable to maximize profits?

    Oh they're cashing checks.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    He also looks cartoonishly evil.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Haha Florida is full of idiots

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I'd like DeSantis to study this whole situation more. Perhaps putting him in the path of a hurricane would give him a more informed perspective.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Fighting to not drown is illegal

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Even right-wingers in the UK aren't this blasé about it. Murica is a very weird place where folk don't seem to get punished electorally for being an asshole.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago*

    Reform has scrapping net zero as one of its main campaign points at local and national level.

    Not that it’s limited to the right wing. The prime mover in the Government considering scrapping its ban on new North Sea drilling is from the unions pressuring them to do so.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Murica is a very weird place where folk don’t seem to get punished electorally for being an asshole.

    “Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don’t fall out of the sky. They don’t pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses, and American universities - and they are elected by American citizens.

    This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It’s what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, […] you’re going to get selfish, ignorant leaders.” – George Carlin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBrbXOmnW70

    See how few vote for ethical people like Nader, the Greens, ...

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