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[–] 94 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Lemmy is rather small, you might be bumping into the same 3 users everywhere.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    Just an extension to this, when I used Reddit, /r/all was too big and had a bunch of crap I didn’t care about, and I browsed my home page of subscribed communities.

    On here I only ever browse All, despite the drawbacks. I think it’s practically the only way to use Lemmy. OP might have subscribed to a dozen communities and felt claustrophobic especially if they’re coming from Reddit.

    Different instances are more or less insular though. Hexbear can be good fun but once you realize 95% of the posts and comments are from like 200 people it feels more like a discord server than a federated link aggregator. db0 federates with most big instances so even our local communities don’t feel as insular. .world is .world, for better and for worse.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Sounds about right. Outside of political threads, I've only noticed and tagged maybe three users that are truly toxic (as in they enter every conversation with an insult and devolve from there). The problem is that those users are active everywhere and make the Lemmyverse feel much less welcoming than it actually is.

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  • [–] 71 points 4 months ago* (6 children)

    I prefer it over the reddit way, tbh. Every comment section there is just filled with gifs and jokes, and you have to scroll miles to get a reasonable and sound answer to what OP was asking. It's especially frustrating when I've searched for an issue online and reddit pops up in the search results, and all responses are just bad repetitive jokes.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Also bots. There to sway public opinion.

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  • [–] 44 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Insular has such a negative connotation. I'd call it "neighborly": I like seeing the same usernames over again and getting to know their idiosyncrasies.

    Hostile, I have to disagree with outright. I only have reddit and oldschool fora to compare it against, but lemmy is much friendlier than both.

    Are we given to long comments? Sure. Are those comments worth reading? Usually! And that's what makes the difference.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Don’t disagree at all, I think a lot of what’s going on is the uptick in the “eternal September phenomenon”. A lot of us have been here for a while even if like myself we’ve switched instances, and those that have stuck around know the way things work and also like it, the new folks come here and think it’s Reddit, and when they get pushback because we’re all clearly here because we on one level or another had problems with Reddit or some other platform, they seem to think we’re the inclusive ones. When really they’re all up in the koolaid and don’t even know the flavor.

    Some will stick around and some will bail, and then the cycle repeats, it’s just been happening with greater frequency

    Edit: I’ll also freely admit that sometimes it is a bit serious here for my personality which leans flippant, but that’s fine, I still am here for a reason

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  • [–] 116 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Naa its mostly fun to me! And the people i interact with seem like good people for the most part.

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  • [–] 52 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    Agreed. And to dispell the impression of posts having to be PhD dissertations: Pee pee poo poo

    I am, however, a judgmental prick, but I (usually) keep those opinions to myself. I will silently judge youbased on your posts and comments, and leave it at that.

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  • [–] 38 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I find it much more cynical than other places, probably just the nature of how everyone ended up here, jaded by the design of centralized social media.

    I have to remind myself that everything isnt as 'sky is falling' as I see around these parts. Maybe I'm just blessed with a nice life, and I try not to take that for granted, but it does give me that feeling unfortunately.

    I try my best to insert some humour into the headlines as some sort of way to make some light of it all, but that might just be playing into the fear and anger that I see around.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago

    Maybe I’m just blessed with a nice life, and I try not to take that for granted, but it does give me that feeling unfortunately.

    You probably are. Me too, fortunately. But times are hard and bleak for a lot of people. I know cause I went through it for nearly a decade getting to here.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    It got a lot better for me after blocking a number of communities and individual users.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    you really have to block entire instances if you want to massively cut down on the hate/spite fueled content that floods this space. lots of lemmy is ID politics doomerism perspectives.

    and yeah if you are hateful and spite filled, you won't see that content that way, you will see it as 'good'.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    No one yells at me to read the friendly manual like the arch forums. The only yelling I see is political stuff. I don't see the console flame wars. Comments don't look like youtube of the 2010s and before. Its not 4chan. It doesn't have much of the smuggery of hacker news. I can block the chapo trap house people. Fediverse and activitypub actually works and we have some admins who seem to care about informing others of bad actors either as individuals to entire instances.

    Lemmy seems good to me!

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    What do you mean by Chapo trap house people? I don't think I've encountered that

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    r/ChapTrapHouse was the left wing equivalent of r/The_Donald, constantly brigading and trolling other subs. And just like r/T_D, their sub got banned and they kept trying to remake the community only to be banned again and again.

    IIRC, the r/ChapoTrapHouse folks eventually started up Hexbear on here, while r/The_Donald moved to ExplodingHeads. Both instances are often defederated by other instances, so you probably don't see them a lot

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (31 children)

    At first, I was very cautious here. After Reddit, I was expecting that people would go through post histories and attack me for misunderstandings and call me an AI bot, like some users do in sites like Reddit.. But no. I haven't had any issues, even when I have put out more controversial opinions or asked dumb questions. I have gotten downvoted occasionally when I have been wrong or misunderstood, which is fair. I have gotten replies from people with different opinions, but they have been polite and sticked in the topic, which is fucking amazing. I haven't had a single even slightly unpleasant interaction so far.

    Folk here have been very helpful, polite, funny or neutral. I'm actually becoming more brave at posting and commenting, and I no longer feel fearful/unpleasant when I see that I have an unread notification. Of course there are communities I have blocked or instances that I avoid but that's just to curate my feeds.

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  • [+] [S] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (31 children)
  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (28 children)

    "Every time I make a fresh account"

    Why do you need to keep making new accounts?

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Not op, but I keep deleting and creating new accounts too. It just internet hygiene at this point.

    I'm from Bora Bora btw. See?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    "Hygiene" as in "no-one would take me seriously with this comment history so time to make a new one"?

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Hygiene as in I don't want to get doxxed, or have someone compiling a profile on me. What do I care if a rando takes me seriously or not? 🤷‍♂️

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  • [+] -7 points 4 months ago* (8 children)

    I don't want to get doxxed

    Do you post your name and/or address or anything that could be used to ID you? How is changing an account going to influence that.

    "Someone compiling a profile on me"

    Sure, yeah, buddy. "They're following YOU, but luckily making a new account completely gets rid of whatever tinfoil entity you're imagining."

    The only people I could see that being a problem for is anyone part of anything organised and not wanting to get caught.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Considering the US government is currently dragging people to court over their innocuous social media posts, maybe this take is a little short-sighted.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Yes the US intelligence apparatus must be just so lost when you create a new account on Lemmy. Ofc they are. You're safe from them by doing that.

    #/S

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Honestly, bro, why do you even care? Being a smug prick over insignificant shit like this is exactly the kind of asshole behavior OP is posting about.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    Depending on how you made that account, yes, that can completely foil a state-level adversary. Snowden got away.

    Saying the government doesn't care about our shitposting has substance to it. Saying they have infinite surveillance power and also that's fine, on the other hand, feels like it's been reasoned backwards from a conclusion.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago

    Thinking the government is interested in an individuals shit posting is beyond delusional.

    Data only works as prediction when you have tons of it.

    And for that it doesn't matter what your username is.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (15 children)

    You should always change accounts once in a while, just for online safety alone. Creating a long history of comments gives a lot of data about you, and the longer, the more. And that is not a good thing in these AI-data-mining days.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    Yeah AI will scrape your writings despite the username. So what are you exactly afraid of, personally?

    And no, this isn't the "if you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear"- argument. I'm pro-privacy. I understand loads of people like it and I think it's a human right. But personally I don't care about it, for me. I care about it for humanity. And I understand that if you're for instance a hard line government critic in an autocratic state, you might want to make it harder for them to find you.

    But like, I generally don't believe that just making a new account and having a different username would make any difference to the government's ability to track you. If you have a poorly IT literate stalker, then sure, it would be immensely useful.

    But against government apparati actually focused on you? Like the NSA? Juutosisnaatoimiikimuutevarmaa

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    For me personally, it is frankly more about paranoia towards other people. I am transgendered, so I have learned to always be vary, there are no pictures of me online. I do not have any social media accounts, outside relatively anonymous stuff like lemmy. And even here I would never give out an actual email, or any other personal details that can be easily tracked. I know that while you are on the internet, you cannot really escape the surveillance (except maybe on tor, but yes that is not so simple either), but that does not mean you should make things easier, for any random person, company or anything. I do not think it is good if anyone can read years worth of your personal comments.

    Eik näe AI aekana mikkee, eiees muruteella puhummine autakkaa ennee juu

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (12 children)

    That's not changing an account, that's avoiding having one.

    but that does not mean you should make things easier, for any random person, company or anything

    So why not make a new user each and every time? Would make it harder for them. (The slippery slope works both ways.)

    Except people can still read that with AI;

    I don't see Al at all, I don't think I'll help you with my words.

    Eisenniivituvaikiaaol

    Meaning my method (in this case, not the thread) works, yours doesn't seem to.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (11 children)

    So why not make a new user each and every time?

    That is... that is what I am saying you should do? VPN, email-masking, new accounts at least once a year and deleting all history from older one, and never using the same usernames, is the bare minimum. That will not protect you from surveillance, or being found, but it will make it harder, for internet randoms especially. And if you have to have accounts with names and pictures, for work or something, always keep them completely separate from accounts you actually use for freetime, and stuff.

    I don’t see Al at all, I don’t think I’ll help you with my words.

    Very wrong translation though, so surprisingly that still works too.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (10 children)

    That is... that is what I am saying you should do?

    But now you've replied twice. That's a pattern! They can track you now. Oh why, oh why didn't you change your username..?!

    Very wrong translation though

    Nope. It's just somewhat wrong, not "very" wrong. You still very much get the essence. And as I showed you, you can do it without the AI even getting the gist.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (9 children)

    But now you’ve replied twice. That’s a pattern! They can track you now. Oh why, oh why didn’t you change your username…?!

    Now that is just in bad faith, and goes into the "why bother, I have nothing to hide" territory.

    It’s just somewhat wrong

    No, the meaning of both sentences is completely wrong, and the only words translated correctly are "AI" and "help".

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    the "why bother, I have nothing to hide" territory.

    I literally explained why it isn't. "Why bother I have nothing to hide" is a slippery slope argument and a slippery slope works both ways.

    So if not changing your username every time, then when? What is the defining factor deciding that, and why?

    I'm not saying privacy isn't important. I'm saying that privacy is important, and should be available to people, but that personally I have absolutely nothing to fear. I understand living in a shitty country like the US or Russia or China, and having to lie about one's thoughts and allegiances. But I don't have to.

    This isn't the same as saying that privacy shouldn't exist. Just because I'm ideologically a nudist doesn't mean I walk around naked in any given shopping centre, as an analogy. I realise the usefulness of clothes, especially in the winter at this latitude.

    No, the meaning of both sentences is completely wrong

    No it isn't. The first one is wrong. But see how you say "completely" there as an adjective? Incorrect. It's not completely wrong by a mile.

    If this was a language test at a school, you'd give them point for that, because it does render context. As in you can spot that one is using a dialect on purpose. You thought AI doesn't do dialects. Ofc it does. You just need to confuse it's context, like I did, and it's easiest done with the SW dialect that shortens and twists words, the easter and Northern dialects which just add vowels basically are not cryptic enough for AI. And you're just pissed because I did it better

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Voe mahoton ku tuo taespa männännii polosella ihannii tuntehin astikkai, antooks vua ku emmiä ny sinnuu loekata meanannu, kuha huastella tahhoi. Kuuloha, emmiä uskonnakkaa kui surukiasti tuop tekoviksu oekee näetä tämmöttii muruhejuttuloeta kienteleepi, paitti ny ku ommin silimin oekee toisti ku lähinnii testaalommaa eh eihä tuop ymmärräkkää hevovittuakkoo :)

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    I love it when someone so clearly projects.

    You don't like being corrected, do you?

    Is it a shit translation? Yes. Is it "completely wrong"? No. Will you be able to accept something you said as incorrect, untrue? Also no. ;>

    How many times did you go over your comment to try to make it as cryptic as you possibly can, when I just do it with ease? Must be annoying. Finns are always so fucking sensitive about someone being better than them at something. It's actually built into Nordic culture, we just made it way worse.

    It's called the Law of Jante and it's quite sad how little you realise it's influencing you.

    Perhaps expose yourself to more international culture? Learn a language or two. I did. After having learned all the dialects in Finland as a kid through different variations of Don Rosa stories and whatnot. (Ever read "Uutissii Turust"?)

    Now you can of course make your text purposefully contextually missing to the LLM. It's not hard, you're kinda getting there. All you need is a lil practice, honey. And practice begins by understanding you're not perfect. Ie, you can make mistakes. Like saying that "the translation was completely wrong". It really wasn't. It was a bad translation, and the first sentence was wrong, but with AI, you definitely get the gist that someone's just using the language to communicate while trying to prevent others from understanding.

    Too bad you have to write such long comments yet to ne able to confuse a simple LLM, but again, with practice, you'll get there. ;>

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Voe voe, essiä pien kuul minnuu suap loekattuu yhytääp tuommottiilla ininöellä, taes tuop aeka palajo sinnuu satutellakkii ku noepittee ilikeellä. Mut sie alloetkii huastelloo miullep nii rumastikkai ny, eh eip tästäkköö ennee oekee mittee taiakkaa tullakkoo. Kuulehha mie pistännii miu hupiva tähö viel, ja si siä voet miut esteepi vaekka kup noen pistöö siulla vihaks oekkee. Piäs siäkii hauskoo päevettä! :)

    Miulla onniinna par tuntihiha ollunna jop iha mahottomma hauskoop, ku näetä kup etteeki Kuukkelille syöttellööpi, ni melekeet kaik männööp iha pisi vittuva. Miä laitannii tähäp ny kuulkoos mittee miä kirijottelinniip ja si mitteepä tuop Kuukkel tämmöttiistä huastelop.

    I've already had great fun for a couple hours, since feeding these especially to Google, almost everything gets all fucked up. I'll put what I was writing here, and then what Google says about that.

    I'm happy to say that for a few hours it was even more fun, when you see that you can't feed Kuukkeli, and all the noise is so fucking loud. I'm going to put this here and listen to you, not me, but you, not Kuukkeli, from this mess.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Miäp vähö kokkeeli ja taitoop ollakkii etteipuo tuommottet tekoviksut massiinat oekee ossoo muruteitap kientelläkkää. Suattap tuo johtuukki kueipuo hiriviästikä tämmöttii kirijoteltunna tälleelä tännö verekkoop :) Jos kukkoop koettap suome murutehia kientellä nii miä voekii huastoop ny etteenä oekee mitteep sua aekasikskoo, eh työ paremmii suattep jos kyssyytte iha vua jolotaa kaun savolaeseltap.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    But they can actually do dialects. Especially easy ones like yours

    If I didn't speak Finnish, I'd still very much get the context of what you said from the translation. You're not exactly being cryptic here.

    I would perhaps have to Google a word or two, but in comparison to 10 years ago, machine translation is pretty fkin good.

    "It was completely wrong" no it was mostly wrong. I understand that you can't see the difference or understand languages, but trust me "completely" means a different thing than "mostly".

    Tahrottvaaliiotelpainottaksesmukamasssunpointtia

    Even that isn't completely wrong when translated.

    That is nonsense. But it's not complete nonsense, as it renders context as to what the AI has seen. But I understand that you don't seem to have a natural grasp of languages and communication the same way I do, so you're having a hard time understanding that adjectives matter.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    you don’t seem to have a natural grasp of languages and communication the same way I do

    Hey, you are seriously claiming that "I don’t see Al at all, I don’t think I’ll help you with my words." is a somewhat working translation for "in these times of AI, not even speaking in dialect helps", so please do excuse me, for not believing you to be very good at even reading comprehension, at this point :)

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Which said anything about it being a "working translation"? It renders context. You can infer from that much context, that someone is clearly using a dialect to obscure their message so as that the LLM would be confused.

    Ah, I forget, Finns are just so bad at reading between the lines. (see Law of Jante from the other reply).

    No, speaking in a dialect doesn't actually make it impossible for an LLM to understand you. Just like you've seen when you rewrote your Finnish comment again and again and fixed this and that. Like I said, the Northern dialects aren't as good in that as SW ones, because in the SW dialects, words are intentionally shortened, giving the LLM less data overall. And since a lot of words are shortened a lot of them are the exact same, so it's easier to confuse the context. For instance "sel" could be "sinulla", "sillä", or beginning of "sellainen". But if you write "sellaane" the LLM really isn't going to be too confused. That's why you need longer sentences to try and confuse it.

    However, if you go back 10 years and more, speaking in dialects made it so translators didn't have a snowball's chance in hell. Even the actual Finnish book language translations were all complete garbage.

    Now you can pick up context quite well even in completely obscure languages. If you don't speak the language, you don't know how inaccurate it is, but unless it's something very suitable but misleading, you're probably gonna understand that "ok this didn't work".

    But yeah it was about 10 years ago when I had a top of the line Huawei with actual text translation from images and speech. I used to entertain my friends by showing how bad it is by just "talking" in asian languages that I sort of knew the general intonation of and maybe some sounds. Not really any words though. Chinese was clearly the worst. I could just gibber sounds and it would try to force it to be a sentence. And more often than not, the answer just sounded like some random Chinese poetry.

    It didn't even have Finnish. Finnish from actual live language has only been in a few years. (And it too sucks and governments should definitely not be using it to transcribe anything officially it's gonna be so filled with hallucinations but already also very used).

    so please do excuse me, for not believing you to be very good at even reading comprehension, at this point :)

    No wörries, I do excuse you, for you know not of what you speak of. :>

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Northern dialects

    Voe ku miä uompii kuulo iästä puoloo iha. Täs onnii aenakkii kolometta murrettakkii varmoo sekasinnii, kup uon monessa paekkoo asununna, jos miä pelekästee ommoo pitäjästä huastelisinnii nip miut pystyhys iha kartaltakkii osottammaa, ja emmiä ny semmottee ryhy.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Huh, I don't really have much advise to that, but it's an understanble reaction. I gotta say that there have been times my first reaction to a reply has been negative, but upon rereading it I have noticed that it was just my reaction. I like that here I learn new stuff every day and that people are willing to politely correct me (/share their opinion or experience on the matter.) I hope you find your place, if not here then maybe on some other site!

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    [–] 17 points 4 months ago

    Might be the community or instance your interacting with. I've not really noticed anything like that.

    Then again, I just ban anything I'm not interested in seeing.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    I've felt that way since I switched to Lemmy after the Reddit API fiasco. It's kind of annoying and I'm not the biggest fan of it. But I don't feel like every interaction is this way, just way more than Reddit.

    That being said, Lemmy is much better when it comes to engagement. I can post something and actually get comments, likes, and replies. On Reddit, it felt like a drop in the bucket. Half the time, you were too late to the post and it already had so many comments that yours would barely be seen by anyone.

    Obviously, that didn't apply to the smaller subreddits but I like that on Lemmy I don't need to go to small niche communities just to feel like I'm part of the conversation.

    The comments on this post actually made me think "Do I prefer the way Reddit was" and the answer is no. Thinking back, Reddit posts would consist of the same joke, one liner or low effort replies at the top. There was very little originality and tons of shitposting.

    At the end of the day, everything has its pros and cons. Just choose the one that works best for you.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    What is priceless about Reddit is its reach. In real discussions on niche topics, you get a volume and diversity of viewpoints that are simply not available here.
    However, they have the algorithm, so you have to doomscroll through hours of low effort noise to occasionally bump into a good post.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    For me, that was much more of an issue on reddit.

    I think this is a cool place. There are a lot of empathetic caring people that are plugged into what's going on in the world.

    The downside of that is the world is a mess, to put it lightly, right now, so we're all kind of commiserating, and it is pretty serious business at the moment.

    I personally haven't seen a ton of one-upping. I'm usually just happy to get a few up votes or a reply

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yes. Lemmy is extremely negative. You just get bombarded with how shit the world is constantly. It's honestly a slog being here sometimes and it pushed many people away.

    I gave Lemmy another go after being gone for 2 years but I'm honestly not really having a good time lol

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago*

    the issue is the people who have internalized that don't see it that way. they see endless doomerism posts as 'the truth' being exposed and if feels good to have themselves validated.

    anytime you try to offer a counter-narrative, you get told you are the one who is evil and spouting propaganda. like if you point how how life in 2026 is so convenient compared to life 20-30 years ago, or the huge strides we have made in health and nutrition, you're evil.

    and don't you ever dare suggest that people have agency or the ability to make choices... no we are all leaves in the wind of some oligarchic conspiracy of billionaires or something...

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago*

    I had to block a lot of politics. It's not that I even disagree with what they're saying most of the time, but it's fifty extremely negative communities saying the same things over and over. It's too much.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I’m only a month in to my Lemmy journey (a few days or so of being actually active now I understand how it works) and I have so far found totally the opposite.

    It’s sure a lot nicer than reddit, we can express ourselves better here without worrying about the banhammer or shit like that. Hell on Reddit I used to get permanently muted from communities just cause I said a ‘bad word’ - once was by a really good sub because I directly quoted an Australian animated skit with the word cunt in it. I’m Aussie so I’m not offended by it in the least, it’s an Aussie staple that can mean all kinds of things.

    People here seem nicer, smaller community, more open for a chat, don’t have to autistically worry about someone getting offended as often. More likely to upvote comments too.

    In short, fuck Reddit haha.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Oooh which skit? (Fellow Aussie here 😂). Also we need a word for this particular brand of worry, autistiworry? Autistanalysis - the deep analysis of anything you say, particularly online, in order to not make mistakes, usually resulting in not participating at all.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I can not confirm this. But depending on channel and topic, experiences can be wildly different and sometimes surprising in any direction.

    👍️ 3
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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago

    Mostly not hostile, but, it’s the internet. If these were face to face conversations things would play out differently.

    Granted, I’ve blocked every sub that’s consistently rabid.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago* (13 children)

    I mean, Lemmy is obviously a smaller, more tight-knit community than Reddit, but I wouldn't say that it's "insular" or rejecting of many viewpoints.

    I was perma-banned on Reddit for criticizing Trump and the AI industry, as well as making a jab at the horrible and inhumane Yulin Dog Meat Festival in Guangxi, China (which by the way is a 100% real thing, should be stopped, and just happens to be running right now...). So I feel that Reddit is largely in the pocket of certain groups and are willing to stretch their moderation rules to stifle certain kinds of speech that challenges their shareholders.

    On top of all that, I think that the Fediverse in general is a little bit friendlier and much more real than Reddit these days, which I like. Whenever I find myself browsing Reddit (without an account) recently, it's only a matter of minutes before I come across some post or comment that is obvious bullshit, be it something clearly AI generated or just a good old fashioned lie. Reddit has really become full of nonsense and slop these days, and I think even people who continue to use Reddit are able to see that it isn't what it used to be.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    How is the dog meat festival any worse than factory farming? I've never understood this take.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    It's ironic that your reply is downvoted when the original comment claims lemmy doesn't shut out opposing viewpoints. I like lemmy way better that reddit, but there is definitely things I wouldn't post on here based on the way some others have seen get crusified.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (7 children)
    1. Factory farming is bad.
    2. Dogs are intelligent and emotional creatures that shouldn't be considered food
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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Does two not apply to pigs and cows?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    no, it sure does.

    the real answer is that usamericans have an emotional relationship with dogs which makes it worse.

    I agree with you that it's nonsensical and borderline racist at best

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    What's nonsensical and borderline racist? What are you agreeing with?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    it's nonsensical and borderline racist to claim that eating dogs is inhumane but eating cows and pigs is fine.

    i understand you have an emotional attachment to dogs that you don't have to the others because people don't keep cows and pigs in their homes. if they did, you would realize that they are intelligent emotional creatures too. that's the nonsensical part.

    the fact that you have no issue with eating cows and pigs but eating dogs is "horrible and inhumane" shows a lack of respect for a culture you don't understand. you're a very small step away from calling it "backwards and barbaric" which would be where I would call it blatantly racist.

    i understand the emotions involved, I like dogs too. i also like cows and chickens and pigs and I think eating any of them is wrong. that being said I'm only really at a "less meat" diet rn I wouldn't even call myself a flexitarian 🤷

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    What's nonsense is moral cultural relativism. I don't have to accept the things that other people do just because they claim it's a part of their culture.

    Also, I don't think that eating dog meat is a large part of Chinese culture, nor do I think it's a thing that all Chinese people do or approve of.

    If this was happening in my country and city I would be just as against it, because I do view dogs as pets and companions moreso than cows and pigs (animals which also deserve to be treated humanely).

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    A Hindu person would probably say that they think it's wrong that Americans kill cows for food, and they are entitled to believe that it's a practice that should be stopped.

    I like dogs and cats, and I don't think that they should be caged, butchered and sold as meat. I would be against it if it was happening in my city too.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago*

    admit you use Windows here and see how well that goes over. or that you don't drive an EV.

    there are many topics/viewpoints that are totally verboten by the userbase here.

    it's very firendly if you subscribe to the hivemind viewpoints that are common here, sure. but if you don't, it's open season on you to get insulted and harassed and labeled.

    despite how utterly absurd judging someone over their choice of computer operating system is.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Its simply the old internet: A highly autistic place filled with highly intelligent (or at least, that is what they think of themselves) people with tons of StarTrek, inside jokes and oh so much petty grudges.

    As someone who was around at the time of the Usenet and the end if the BBS era I love it, but it is a bit of an acquired taste...

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago

    Some people are hostile. Don’t give them air. Just ignore them. On any platform.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago

    No! Fuck off and leave us alone!

    (Joking, it was a joke)

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Everyone on every social media seems hostile these days. Maybe it's a reflection of society's anxiety?

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Lemmy is a different kind of hostile. It's users (some of them) are hostile like redditors, not like twitter users. Though both are unbearable, I find the redditor version way more annoying. Cuz they're sneaky about it. They do it sarcastically. Tiniest error on your part and they'll take the opportunity to call you an idiot and degrade you. You can picture them having a smug little smile on their faces while writing comments.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    It's the complete opposite for me. I write stupid comments all the time, never bother putting '/s' or anything and most of the time people just get it and joke along. Serious discussions are usually quite civil and interesting. Sometimes people get angry over silly things but I just ignore them.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    Considering i mostly look at the meme communities on blahaj, no lol. But it also makes sense to me if youre looking at serious posts about the awful reality of our worlds current state, that the comments are going to be more serious.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    Not really, it feels fine to me. A lot of thoughtful comments to be found too.

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