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[+] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 81 points 1 year ago (13 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago We briefly homeschooled during the pandemic, and like you we're non-conservative Christians. When our Christian friends asked about our curriculum, they always wrinkled their noses at the fact that it said "secular curriculum" on the cover. We told them, "you don't understand how weird the home school curriculum business is. Trust me, it's way easier to take this curriculum and add the values we want to impart than to take all the Christian nationalism out of the religious curriculum." permalink fedilink source parent [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it. The irony is that such fundamentalists rely on so much engineering, built on layers of scientific research, for what they do (like eating. And housing. And recruitment. And printing and distributing that textbook), and... yeah. It'd be like a flat-earther in orbit. It's beyond ironic: it's just not a possible situation without the help of outsiders refuting that belief. I have a lot more respect for the Amish, isolated monks, folks that take their beliefs seriously and consistently in their lifestyle. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago My brother and sister-in-law homeschooled their kids for a while, which was a bit out of character for them. It turned out they were actually sending them to a private school that was technically "home schooling" because the parents taught the kids at home one day out of the week using school-provided materials and the kids were at the school the other four days. That one day a week allowed the technical "home schooling" designation and also allowed the school to use non-state-certified teachers (with the added bonus of being able to pay them hourly and only for four days of work a week). And all of this was only marginally cheaper than normal private schools. My bro and SIL eventually realized how shitty this was all around and moved into a good school district - which was way cheaper than private schools. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago Wait so the above is actually real? And there are worse things in existence? Wtf... permalink fedilink source parent [–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) as a person from across the ocean, i don't get this. why would there be need for some different curriculum for homeschooling, and why would the choice depend on the parent? how is it possible you just get to chose? don't you have to comply with some general standard? here, home-schooling is extremely rare, but if someone undergoes it, they have to use the same textbooks as everyone else and from time to time pass some exams in school to be sure the kid is not behind its peers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago The requirements for home schooling in the US vary wildly from one state to the other and can be almost devoid of any practical oversight in some circumstances. In most cases, parents have autonomy to choose their curriculum yeah, this is the surprising part for me, but i guess in the land of individualism it makes sense. thank you for the answer permalink fedilink source parent [–] trk@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (5 children) It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it. But also; I am a Christian How do you reconcile these two viewpoints? "It's all bollocks, but I still believe it." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 21 points 1 year ago (4 children) There's nothing fundamentally christian about the text in the picture above, it's just nonsense propaganda. The whole science vs religion thing is frankly bollocks too - science shouldn't be arguing about religion it's fundamentally incompatible. OP can believe in a god, believe in an afterlife - science has nothing to say on the subject, it's not testable, it's not falsifiable it's got absolutely nothing to do with science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PokerChips@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago I think gp is referring to the fact that there is soooo much in the Bible that defies science that is taken as truth. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ah yeah man, I feel ya. One thing I don't really get is why there's a subset of Christianity that wants to be so combative - like all that needs to be said is "well, yes, that's pretty clever - of course god would do it that way" or "in this we better understand our maker" instead of trying to belittle what is a clearly useful and widely applied modelling tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago We briefly homeschooled during the pandemic, and like you we're non-conservative Christians. When our Christian friends asked about our curriculum, they always wrinkled their noses at the fact that it said "secular curriculum" on the cover. We told them, "you don't understand how weird the home school curriculum business is. Trust me, it's way easier to take this curriculum and add the values we want to impart than to take all the Christian nationalism out of the religious curriculum." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it. The irony is that such fundamentalists rely on so much engineering, built on layers of scientific research, for what they do (like eating. And housing. And recruitment. And printing and distributing that textbook), and... yeah. It'd be like a flat-earther in orbit. It's beyond ironic: it's just not a possible situation without the help of outsiders refuting that belief. I have a lot more respect for the Amish, isolated monks, folks that take their beliefs seriously and consistently in their lifestyle. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago My brother and sister-in-law homeschooled their kids for a while, which was a bit out of character for them. It turned out they were actually sending them to a private school that was technically "home schooling" because the parents taught the kids at home one day out of the week using school-provided materials and the kids were at the school the other four days. That one day a week allowed the technical "home schooling" designation and also allowed the school to use non-state-certified teachers (with the added bonus of being able to pay them hourly and only for four days of work a week). And all of this was only marginally cheaper than normal private schools. My bro and SIL eventually realized how shitty this was all around and moved into a good school district - which was way cheaper than private schools. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago Wait so the above is actually real? And there are worse things in existence? Wtf... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) as a person from across the ocean, i don't get this. why would there be need for some different curriculum for homeschooling, and why would the choice depend on the parent? how is it possible you just get to chose? don't you have to comply with some general standard? here, home-schooling is extremely rare, but if someone undergoes it, they have to use the same textbooks as everyone else and from time to time pass some exams in school to be sure the kid is not behind its peers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago The requirements for home schooling in the US vary wildly from one state to the other and can be almost devoid of any practical oversight in some circumstances. In most cases, parents have autonomy to choose their curriculum yeah, this is the surprising part for me, but i guess in the land of individualism it makes sense. thank you for the answer permalink fedilink source parent
[+] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago The requirements for home schooling in the US vary wildly from one state to the other and can be almost devoid of any practical oversight in some circumstances. In most cases, parents have autonomy to choose their curriculum yeah, this is the surprising part for me, but i guess in the land of individualism it makes sense. thank you for the answer permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago The requirements for home schooling in the US vary wildly from one state to the other and can be almost devoid of any practical oversight in some circumstances. In most cases, parents have autonomy to choose their curriculum yeah, this is the surprising part for me, but i guess in the land of individualism it makes sense. thank you for the answer permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trk@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (5 children) It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it. But also; I am a Christian How do you reconcile these two viewpoints? "It's all bollocks, but I still believe it." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 21 points 1 year ago (4 children) There's nothing fundamentally christian about the text in the picture above, it's just nonsense propaganda. The whole science vs religion thing is frankly bollocks too - science shouldn't be arguing about religion it's fundamentally incompatible. OP can believe in a god, believe in an afterlife - science has nothing to say on the subject, it's not testable, it's not falsifiable it's got absolutely nothing to do with science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PokerChips@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago I think gp is referring to the fact that there is soooo much in the Bible that defies science that is taken as truth. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ah yeah man, I feel ya. One thing I don't really get is why there's a subset of Christianity that wants to be so combative - like all that needs to be said is "well, yes, that's pretty clever - of course god would do it that way" or "in this we better understand our maker" instead of trying to belittle what is a clearly useful and widely applied modelling tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 21 points 1 year ago (4 children) There's nothing fundamentally christian about the text in the picture above, it's just nonsense propaganda. The whole science vs religion thing is frankly bollocks too - science shouldn't be arguing about religion it's fundamentally incompatible. OP can believe in a god, believe in an afterlife - science has nothing to say on the subject, it's not testable, it's not falsifiable it's got absolutely nothing to do with science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PokerChips@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago I think gp is referring to the fact that there is soooo much in the Bible that defies science that is taken as truth. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ah yeah man, I feel ya. One thing I don't really get is why there's a subset of Christianity that wants to be so combative - like all that needs to be said is "well, yes, that's pretty clever - of course god would do it that way" or "in this we better understand our maker" instead of trying to belittle what is a clearly useful and widely applied modelling tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago I think gp is referring to the fact that there is soooo much in the Bible that defies science that is taken as truth. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ah yeah man, I feel ya. One thing I don't really get is why there's a subset of Christianity that wants to be so combative - like all that needs to be said is "well, yes, that's pretty clever - of course god would do it that way" or "in this we better understand our maker" instead of trying to belittle what is a clearly useful and widely applied modelling tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ah yeah man, I feel ya. One thing I don't really get is why there's a subset of Christianity that wants to be so combative - like all that needs to be said is "well, yes, that's pretty clever - of course god would do it that way" or "in this we better understand our maker" instead of trying to belittle what is a clearly useful and widely applied modelling tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)