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[–] 22 points 1 day ago (14 children)

cheap RAM already next year.

Unlikely because ram has been retooled for hbm server gpus. It will be another year before it's back to ddr5.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    So cheap GPUs then? I could live with that.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    The Datacenter GPUs can’t be used for graphics, unfortunately.

    Now, if you want a compute firesale…

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    If someone or some group could figure out a way to get them working for normal people they could make a lot of money even if it's not easy like resoldering components or something

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago* (4 children)

    It’s not a software limitation. Datacenter GPUs physically do not have ROPs; they cannot render games.

    Nvidia removed them on the H100. The A100 technically has some, but not enough to perform well.

    AMD removed them even earlier, on the MI100 at the very least.


    …But if you are interested in workstation compute stuff?

    Datacenter GPUs are great at that. I look forward to picking up a firesale B100 someday.

    Also, there is already a group hacking them on the Level 1 Tech forums. But they are trying to unlock the motherboards to use them for compute, not graphics.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (3 children)

    Workstation compute - like CAD? Video rendering?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago* (2 children)

    Not CAD. Pretty much anything that’s “real time graphics” needs ROPs.

    But Blender rendering, yes. Works great on datacenter GPUs.

    It goes well beyond that. There’s tons of stuff GPU compute is useful for; personally, I want a B200 for video/image processing and for more “old school” machine learning experimentation.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    Is CAD real time? I know there's a rendered preview but I mainly think of the solver running on the GPU when I think of CAD hardware acceleration

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    Hard to say how much of the demand induced price increases are based on anticipated chips for future purchase under multi-year contracts that may simply evaporate. Often prices are based on future predictions, not here-and-now supply ane demand.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago*

    This argument completely ignores that consumer electronics are being used for this stuff as well and while cheap server grade components might not be directly usable, it'll cascade down the entire industry freeing up a lot of the consumer components that were bought up.

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