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[–] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (25 children)

Ok I've been meaning to ask this in the Space community or the NoStupidQuestions community. I've seen this news circling around the past 2 weeks and have been watching videos of people talking about it.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think the gist is that astronomers discovered with the JWST that some galaxies at the end of the observable universe appear to be younger than they are supposed to be. So it kinda blows a hole in the big bang expansion where objects farther away should be older. And that somehow ties in with the theory that our universe is inside a blackhole.

It's fascinating but I don't know what to do with that information other than just be fascinated. I think it was Neil deGrasse Tyson who said "So what does this new discovery matter to us? Nothing", because us being in a blackhole doesn't change anything in the grand universal scheme of things.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I've always liked this theory, imagining the cosmos is just a series/web/tree of black holes draining into the next. Everything gets recycled eventually.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It meshes well with my occasional feeling that reality is just circling the drain.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    It doesn't answer where it all came from. Whatever theory or religion you choose, there's no answer to this question apart from it suddenly appeared which implies something can be created out of nothing and that creates a whole lot of new questions and possibilities.

    It's also just whitehole theory which is possible but we've never seen one and we likely should have by now.

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  • the network of causality is like a big river, and if you follow individual lines, they either lead in circles or they stretch infinitely into the past and future or they spring out somewhere spontaneously

    only in the third case is there a "spontaneous creation"

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Another big part of it is that if the big bang happened evenly then galaxies and other objects should be spinning in random directions. So far that's not what's been observed. There seems to be a preferred direction everything spins in.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There seems to be a preferred direction everything spins in.

    I'm sorry but i think that's just not true?

    Inside the solar system, yes, planets more or less spin around the same axis than the whole solar system does.

    But the axis of the solar system and of the whole milky way are like 63° towards each other. Source So, not the same direction at all.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The direction the black hole "toilet" flushes as it sucks stuff in and smashes it against each other?

    Maybe there's a parallel universe called Astraliastra where the black hole flushes the other direction!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's amazing to me that an episode of the Simpsons like 30 years ago created such a widely believed completely made up fact.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    That fact wasn't as cromulent as they made it out to be.

    ETA: also, the myth about birds exploding by eating rice. An entire generation used bubbles at their weddings instead, in part because Lisa didn't fact-check a myth. (Not complaining about the result though: bubbles are lovely floating orbs of happiness, whereas thrown rice is a messy waste of food.)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    The bird myth predates the Simpsons though. I did hear it was greatly spread by all the churches\wedding venues because they all didn't want to keep cleaning up all the rice.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Maybe the far away galaxies are just the close galaxies seen from the other side?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    We also have to remember that we can only see a bounded sphere of the universe from our frame of reference.

    If we were to move our observation points to elsewhere in the universe, we'll be able to see more of the universe and challenge our current theories.

    The JSWT sees only what it can, and our theories about the universe can only extend as far as that evidence. Those galaxies might appear to be younger, but the science is never finished!

    Probably goes without saying

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