Why do we need to? What's the risk, some unsupervised kid with neglectful parents might see porn? Oh man, just imagine the world-ending consequences if that happened!

by denying childcare benefits, and giving a visit from child welfare.

the school should start the procedure when they see the kid scrolling social media regularly, or if the kid regularly says they want their phone (when somehow taken away) as that means they are already kinda addicted to it. child welfare investigates whether the suspicions are true, initiates denying benefits, and communicates directly with the parents being willing to support them improving the situation, including offering free assistance from child's psychologist. then, the point becomes not denying benefits, but recognizing that they have little time to figure it out themselves, and giving all the help they need.

So any unchecked web/app developer can see if a child is visiting their site? No thanks. This will make children less safe.

I will VPN to mars before I upload my ID, or that of my child for that matter. Not a chance in hell.

But it needs to be verified there first in some way, and then services will need to somehow verify that your device properly verified it.

And how would that app verify you've given your actual age? Now you need to deanonymize yourself to that app and while random sites might not know who you are the app does and the app also knows every site you visit (that requests your age).

So no, that's no longer anonymous. In practice that's just your government (as that's the most likely source of authority to verify your age) tracking what you're doing on the web. Is that really preferable to parents parenting their children?

No, "not all stuff is for kids" means "kids should never watch this", and what I'm saying is "kids can see this with the appropiate tutoring and supervision", these are two really distinct things.

Except this digital bouncer can memorize every ID it sees. It can reproduce them perfectly for someone else to see. In fact, there's no realistic way for this bouncer to ever forget an ID it has seen.

Your arguing for the elimination of privacy as a solution to privacy.

You are naive if you think this is anything other than a demand from advertisers to ensure it is human being advertised to and not a bot.

oh you can go and wish good lucks to yourself too, because you will need it if this becomes widely adopted

I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs.

If you are satisfied, why the pro-crumb advocacy here?

No, no, no, you are trying to persuade people here to settle for crumbs. That means your agenda has either not been achieved, or is on a shaky ground. Which explains the work you are doing.