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[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 23 points 2 months ago (24 children) No. Fuck off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 24 child comments replies: [+] Saapas@piefed.zip -20 points 2 months ago (23 children) They're already doing the verification and it's not going away. I definitely prefer a better way to do it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 41 points 2 months ago (22 children) That "it's not going away" attitude is the fucking problem... We should fucking fight it, either by good or by bad, because that defeatism is what they want, they want us to think that TINA, then, little by little, force ourselves to do things that at first would seem unacceptable to us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago Yeah, it's evil. We have to fight back permalink fedilink source parent [+] Saapas@piefed.zip -17 points 2 months ago (20 children) But in this case there's already a lot worse system in place. Why not get a better system while also fighting the verification thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 17 points 2 months ago (3 children) No, get rid of the bad system and be done with it. No compromise. This isn't something that needs to exist at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -4 points 2 months ago (2 children) I sincerely wish you luck in your endeavor, but I'm not very optimistic about it so in the meanwhile, better system would be better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) oh you can go and wish good lucks to yourself too, because you will need it if this becomes widely adopted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -3 points 2 months ago Age checks are already widely adopted, using a lot worse system. This new system that's better is being implemented So no luck needed for that at least permalink fedilink source parent [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago (7 children) Aren't you tired begging for crumbs? I want a ten course dinner with hookers and blow. Nothing less will do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (6 children) I mean I'd rather get crumbs than nothing? lol Just seems pragmatic to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) Begging for crumbs does NOT mean getting crumbs. Usually when you beg for crumbs the power brokers understand you to be an inwardly defeated person and they spit you in the face instead of negotiating with you. This is not about getting. This is about what you aim for to begin with. If you go to a shooting range and delibarately aim for a 1 instead of for a 10 it does not make you more likely to hit a 1. It makes no sense to sabotage your own aim before you even squeeze the trigger. You think if your aim is modest, the powers that be will take pity on you? What a foolish notion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago* (3 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. If you are satisfied, why the pro-crumb advocacy here? No, no, no, you are trying to persuade people here to settle for crumbs. That means your agenda has either not been achieved, or is on a shaky ground. Which explains the work you are doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) I just said the id thing would avoid the issue in OP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Mismatch between behavior and words. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago Not from my end, but I respect your view permalink fedilink source parent [–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (3 children) The better system is no system permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) Wouldn't that be the best system? This system is a lot better but better just means better than the other thing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) let me correct you. this system is slightly better. the word you were looking for is slightly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago* Slightly better is still better, but imo a site knowing just an age range (18+) of someone they don't know compared to them having a picture of my id with all my info (name, dob, social security number, face, all that) is a lot, a lot better imo permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) you are not fighting the verification thing, you are applauding it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -2 points 2 months ago I'm pretty indifferent to there being age gates. I hate the shitty implementation though, I'd never sent my id to random sites permalink fedilink source parent [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) You're part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -3 points 2 months ago For wanting a better system? lol permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Saapas@piefed.zip -20 points 2 months ago (23 children) They're already doing the verification and it's not going away. I definitely prefer a better way to do it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 41 points 2 months ago (22 children) That "it's not going away" attitude is the fucking problem... We should fucking fight it, either by good or by bad, because that defeatism is what they want, they want us to think that TINA, then, little by little, force ourselves to do things that at first would seem unacceptable to us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago Yeah, it's evil. We have to fight back permalink fedilink source parent [+] Saapas@piefed.zip -17 points 2 months ago (20 children) But in this case there's already a lot worse system in place. Why not get a better system while also fighting the verification thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 17 points 2 months ago (3 children) No, get rid of the bad system and be done with it. No compromise. This isn't something that needs to exist at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -4 points 2 months ago (2 children) I sincerely wish you luck in your endeavor, but I'm not very optimistic about it so in the meanwhile, better system would be better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) oh you can go and wish good lucks to yourself too, because you will need it if this becomes widely adopted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -3 points 2 months ago Age checks are already widely adopted, using a lot worse system. This new system that's better is being implemented So no luck needed for that at least permalink fedilink source parent [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago (7 children) Aren't you tired begging for crumbs? I want a ten course dinner with hookers and blow. Nothing less will do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (6 children) I mean I'd rather get crumbs than nothing? lol Just seems pragmatic to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) Begging for crumbs does NOT mean getting crumbs. Usually when you beg for crumbs the power brokers understand you to be an inwardly defeated person and they spit you in the face instead of negotiating with you. This is not about getting. This is about what you aim for to begin with. If you go to a shooting range and delibarately aim for a 1 instead of for a 10 it does not make you more likely to hit a 1. It makes no sense to sabotage your own aim before you even squeeze the trigger. You think if your aim is modest, the powers that be will take pity on you? What a foolish notion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago* (3 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. If you are satisfied, why the pro-crumb advocacy here? No, no, no, you are trying to persuade people here to settle for crumbs. That means your agenda has either not been achieved, or is on a shaky ground. Which explains the work you are doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) I just said the id thing would avoid the issue in OP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Mismatch between behavior and words. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago Not from my end, but I respect your view permalink fedilink source parent [–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (3 children) The better system is no system permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) Wouldn't that be the best system? This system is a lot better but better just means better than the other thing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) let me correct you. this system is slightly better. the word you were looking for is slightly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago* Slightly better is still better, but imo a site knowing just an age range (18+) of someone they don't know compared to them having a picture of my id with all my info (name, dob, social security number, face, all that) is a lot, a lot better imo permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) you are not fighting the verification thing, you are applauding it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -2 points 2 months ago I'm pretty indifferent to there being age gates. I hate the shitty implementation though, I'd never sent my id to random sites permalink fedilink source parent [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) You're part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -3 points 2 months ago For wanting a better system? lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 41 points 2 months ago (22 children) That "it's not going away" attitude is the fucking problem... We should fucking fight it, either by good or by bad, because that defeatism is what they want, they want us to think that TINA, then, little by little, force ourselves to do things that at first would seem unacceptable to us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago Yeah, it's evil. We have to fight back permalink fedilink source parent [+] Saapas@piefed.zip -17 points 2 months ago (20 children) But in this case there's already a lot worse system in place. Why not get a better system while also fighting the verification thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 17 points 2 months ago (3 children) No, get rid of the bad system and be done with it. No compromise. This isn't something that needs to exist at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -4 points 2 months ago (2 children) I sincerely wish you luck in your endeavor, but I'm not very optimistic about it so in the meanwhile, better system would be better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) oh you can go and wish good lucks to yourself too, because you will need it if this becomes widely adopted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -3 points 2 months ago Age checks are already widely adopted, using a lot worse system. This new system that's better is being implemented So no luck needed for that at least permalink fedilink source parent [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago (7 children) Aren't you tired begging for crumbs? I want a ten course dinner with hookers and blow. Nothing less will do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (6 children) I mean I'd rather get crumbs than nothing? lol Just seems pragmatic to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) Begging for crumbs does NOT mean getting crumbs. Usually when you beg for crumbs the power brokers understand you to be an inwardly defeated person and they spit you in the face instead of negotiating with you. This is not about getting. This is about what you aim for to begin with. If you go to a shooting range and delibarately aim for a 1 instead of for a 10 it does not make you more likely to hit a 1. It makes no sense to sabotage your own aim before you even squeeze the trigger. You think if your aim is modest, the powers that be will take pity on you? What a foolish notion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago* (3 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. If you are satisfied, why the pro-crumb advocacy here? No, no, no, you are trying to persuade people here to settle for crumbs. That means your agenda has either not been achieved, or is on a shaky ground. Which explains the work you are doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) I just said the id thing would avoid the issue in OP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Mismatch between behavior and words. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago Not from my end, but I respect your view permalink fedilink source parent [–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (3 children) The better system is no system permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) Wouldn't that be the best system? This system is a lot better but better just means better than the other thing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) let me correct you. this system is slightly better. the word you were looking for is slightly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago* Slightly better is still better, but imo a site knowing just an age range (18+) of someone they don't know compared to them having a picture of my id with all my info (name, dob, social security number, face, all that) is a lot, a lot better imo permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) you are not fighting the verification thing, you are applauding it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -2 points 2 months ago I'm pretty indifferent to there being age gates. I hate the shitty implementation though, I'd never sent my id to random sites permalink fedilink source parent [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) You're part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -3 points 2 months ago For wanting a better system? lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago Yeah, it's evil. We have to fight back permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Saapas@piefed.zip -17 points 2 months ago (20 children) But in this case there's already a lot worse system in place. Why not get a better system while also fighting the verification thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 17 points 2 months ago (3 children) No, get rid of the bad system and be done with it. No compromise. This isn't something that needs to exist at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -4 points 2 months ago (2 children) I sincerely wish you luck in your endeavor, but I'm not very optimistic about it so in the meanwhile, better system would be better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) oh you can go and wish good lucks to yourself too, because you will need it if this becomes widely adopted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -3 points 2 months ago Age checks are already widely adopted, using a lot worse system. This new system that's better is being implemented So no luck needed for that at least permalink fedilink source parent [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago (7 children) Aren't you tired begging for crumbs? I want a ten course dinner with hookers and blow. Nothing less will do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (6 children) I mean I'd rather get crumbs than nothing? lol Just seems pragmatic to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) Begging for crumbs does NOT mean getting crumbs. Usually when you beg for crumbs the power brokers understand you to be an inwardly defeated person and they spit you in the face instead of negotiating with you. This is not about getting. This is about what you aim for to begin with. If you go to a shooting range and delibarately aim for a 1 instead of for a 10 it does not make you more likely to hit a 1. It makes no sense to sabotage your own aim before you even squeeze the trigger. You think if your aim is modest, the powers that be will take pity on you? What a foolish notion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago* (3 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. If you are satisfied, why the pro-crumb advocacy here? No, no, no, you are trying to persuade people here to settle for crumbs. That means your agenda has either not been achieved, or is on a shaky ground. Which explains the work you are doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) I just said the id thing would avoid the issue in OP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Mismatch between behavior and words. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago Not from my end, but I respect your view permalink fedilink source parent [–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (3 children) The better system is no system permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) Wouldn't that be the best system? This system is a lot better but better just means better than the other thing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) let me correct you. this system is slightly better. the word you were looking for is slightly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago* Slightly better is still better, but imo a site knowing just an age range (18+) of someone they don't know compared to them having a picture of my id with all my info (name, dob, social security number, face, all that) is a lot, a lot better imo permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) you are not fighting the verification thing, you are applauding it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -2 points 2 months ago I'm pretty indifferent to there being age gates. I hate the shitty implementation though, I'd never sent my id to random sites permalink fedilink source parent [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) You're part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -3 points 2 months ago For wanting a better system? lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 17 points 2 months ago (3 children) No, get rid of the bad system and be done with it. No compromise. This isn't something that needs to exist at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -4 points 2 months ago (2 children) I sincerely wish you luck in your endeavor, but I'm not very optimistic about it so in the meanwhile, better system would be better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) oh you can go and wish good lucks to yourself too, because you will need it if this becomes widely adopted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -3 points 2 months ago Age checks are already widely adopted, using a lot worse system. This new system that's better is being implemented So no luck needed for that at least permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip -4 points 2 months ago (2 children) I sincerely wish you luck in your endeavor, but I'm not very optimistic about it so in the meanwhile, better system would be better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) oh you can go and wish good lucks to yourself too, because you will need it if this becomes widely adopted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -3 points 2 months ago Age checks are already widely adopted, using a lot worse system. This new system that's better is being implemented So no luck needed for that at least permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) oh you can go and wish good lucks to yourself too, because you will need it if this becomes widely adopted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -3 points 2 months ago Age checks are already widely adopted, using a lot worse system. This new system that's better is being implemented So no luck needed for that at least permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip -3 points 2 months ago Age checks are already widely adopted, using a lot worse system. This new system that's better is being implemented So no luck needed for that at least permalink fedilink source parent
[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago (7 children) Aren't you tired begging for crumbs? I want a ten course dinner with hookers and blow. Nothing less will do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (6 children) I mean I'd rather get crumbs than nothing? lol Just seems pragmatic to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) Begging for crumbs does NOT mean getting crumbs. Usually when you beg for crumbs the power brokers understand you to be an inwardly defeated person and they spit you in the face instead of negotiating with you. This is not about getting. This is about what you aim for to begin with. If you go to a shooting range and delibarately aim for a 1 instead of for a 10 it does not make you more likely to hit a 1. It makes no sense to sabotage your own aim before you even squeeze the trigger. You think if your aim is modest, the powers that be will take pity on you? What a foolish notion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago* (3 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. If you are satisfied, why the pro-crumb advocacy here? No, no, no, you are trying to persuade people here to settle for crumbs. That means your agenda has either not been achieved, or is on a shaky ground. Which explains the work you are doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) I just said the id thing would avoid the issue in OP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Mismatch between behavior and words. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago Not from my end, but I respect your view permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (6 children) I mean I'd rather get crumbs than nothing? lol Just seems pragmatic to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) Begging for crumbs does NOT mean getting crumbs. Usually when you beg for crumbs the power brokers understand you to be an inwardly defeated person and they spit you in the face instead of negotiating with you. This is not about getting. This is about what you aim for to begin with. If you go to a shooting range and delibarately aim for a 1 instead of for a 10 it does not make you more likely to hit a 1. It makes no sense to sabotage your own aim before you even squeeze the trigger. You think if your aim is modest, the powers that be will take pity on you? What a foolish notion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago* (3 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. If you are satisfied, why the pro-crumb advocacy here? No, no, no, you are trying to persuade people here to settle for crumbs. That means your agenda has either not been achieved, or is on a shaky ground. Which explains the work you are doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) I just said the id thing would avoid the issue in OP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Mismatch between behavior and words. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago Not from my end, but I respect your view permalink fedilink source parent
[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) Begging for crumbs does NOT mean getting crumbs. Usually when you beg for crumbs the power brokers understand you to be an inwardly defeated person and they spit you in the face instead of negotiating with you. This is not about getting. This is about what you aim for to begin with. If you go to a shooting range and delibarately aim for a 1 instead of for a 10 it does not make you more likely to hit a 1. It makes no sense to sabotage your own aim before you even squeeze the trigger. You think if your aim is modest, the powers that be will take pity on you? What a foolish notion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago* (3 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. If you are satisfied, why the pro-crumb advocacy here? No, no, no, you are trying to persuade people here to settle for crumbs. That means your agenda has either not been achieved, or is on a shaky ground. Which explains the work you are doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) I just said the id thing would avoid the issue in OP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Mismatch between behavior and words. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago Not from my end, but I respect your view permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago* (3 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. If you are satisfied, why the pro-crumb advocacy here? No, no, no, you are trying to persuade people here to settle for crumbs. That means your agenda has either not been achieved, or is on a shaky ground. Which explains the work you are doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) I just said the id thing would avoid the issue in OP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Mismatch between behavior and words. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago Not from my end, but I respect your view permalink fedilink source parent
[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago* (3 children) I'm getting the id system I was hoping for though. I'm getting my crumbs. If you are satisfied, why the pro-crumb advocacy here? No, no, no, you are trying to persuade people here to settle for crumbs. That means your agenda has either not been achieved, or is on a shaky ground. Which explains the work you are doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) I just said the id thing would avoid the issue in OP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Mismatch between behavior and words. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago Not from my end, but I respect your view permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) I just said the id thing would avoid the issue in OP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Mismatch between behavior and words. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago Not from my end, but I respect your view permalink fedilink source parent
[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Mismatch between behavior and words. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago Not from my end, but I respect your view permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago Not from my end, but I respect your view permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (3 children) The better system is no system permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) Wouldn't that be the best system? This system is a lot better but better just means better than the other thing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) let me correct you. this system is slightly better. the word you were looking for is slightly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago* Slightly better is still better, but imo a site knowing just an age range (18+) of someone they don't know compared to them having a picture of my id with all my info (name, dob, social security number, face, all that) is a lot, a lot better imo permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) Wouldn't that be the best system? This system is a lot better but better just means better than the other thing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) let me correct you. this system is slightly better. the word you were looking for is slightly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago* Slightly better is still better, but imo a site knowing just an age range (18+) of someone they don't know compared to them having a picture of my id with all my info (name, dob, social security number, face, all that) is a lot, a lot better imo permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) let me correct you. this system is slightly better. the word you were looking for is slightly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago* Slightly better is still better, but imo a site knowing just an age range (18+) of someone they don't know compared to them having a picture of my id with all my info (name, dob, social security number, face, all that) is a lot, a lot better imo permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago* Slightly better is still better, but imo a site knowing just an age range (18+) of someone they don't know compared to them having a picture of my id with all my info (name, dob, social security number, face, all that) is a lot, a lot better imo permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) you are not fighting the verification thing, you are applauding it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -2 points 2 months ago I'm pretty indifferent to there being age gates. I hate the shitty implementation though, I'd never sent my id to random sites permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip -2 points 2 months ago I'm pretty indifferent to there being age gates. I hate the shitty implementation though, I'd never sent my id to random sites permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) You're part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip -3 points 2 months ago For wanting a better system? lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip -3 points 2 months ago For wanting a better system? lol permalink fedilink source parent