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Killing the intellectual future of Iran. Science has no borders. (mander.xyz)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/science_memes@mander.xyz
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[–] 43 points 7 months ago (28 children)

What anyone thinks of Iran should pale in comparison to what they think of the US. Truly the most evil nation since Nazi Germany.

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  • [+] -15 points 7 months ago (27 children)

    did you forget Russia exists? or China?

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    You mean the two countries tied for 3rd place in the most evil country competition?

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  • [+] -8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    recency bias and the US outsized reputation makes it seem that I’m sure but lol if you think this is true

    we’re just more free to complain about it, probably not for much longer though

    so if you think it’s bad now buckle up and I say this as a generational casualty of US colonialism

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Its not receny bias. The US didnt just turn evil in Jan 2025.

    How are are all those black prisoners working in privatised prisons doing by the way?

    China has 4 times the population as the US, yet the US still has the largest prison population on Earth.

    Slavery never ended in america.

    Land of the free my hole. Its literally the least free country on the planet.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago*

    who said anything about 2025? even if you want to peg the US evil starting with Nixon (which isn’t perfectly true as we were war profiteering in ww1/2) that’s recent, the US is a baby nation

    now you’re just throwing strawman arguments, I don’t support any of this shit the US is currently doing, it’s just stupid to think China hasn’t done worse in the last century, isn't doing equally evil shit now

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  • [–] 33 points 7 months ago (13 children)

    Both are bad, neither is worse than the US.

    Just going by invasions and regime changes alone the US takes the cake. That’s before you get into the spreading crack into black communities, chemical weapons on civilians, drone strikes on children, ecological destruction, genocide enabling, etc etc.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago* (8 children)

    i hate defending the US because it has had more direct bad impact on my life but by measure of lost life i’d still argue modern Russia is worse, and if we lump current China to not even that long ago China the numbers killed are not even close

    the scale of China’s population just blows it all out of proportion

    Nazi Germany wasn’t even the worst genocide of its time (what a putrid statement though true)

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

    by measure of lost life i’d still argue modern Russia is worse

    Idk what lost life you're counting, because it's pretty well known that civilian casualties in just the Iraq war most likely dwarf Ukrainian losses.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    ffs google, it is painful when i can tell people are not even trying and just mad at the US

    i get it i do, US is doing bad shit but it’s obvious you’re not even trying to look

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Oh indeed thanks for telling me that I need to google your vague and in no way clarified idea of what Russia is doing, when I can read goddamn Russian language itself and have been reading independent Russian-language opposition media covering Russian reality for ages, and know a whole lot more about it than you do.

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    50+million chinese people and the ughyger genocide people would like to have a word with you. looks like .ML have come in droves to defend CCP/and russian genocide, must be nice to support that. Also white genocide isnt a thing, you racist.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    By numbers US is probably worse but the level of cruelty from Russia is unmatched outside of terrorist organizations

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Would it really be tho?

    Like the US targets children and social gatherings to attack, tortures/rapes/murders innocent civilians in black sites, keeps a racial based underclass who they hook on drugs, violently assault from childhood, and lock up in record numbers to serve as legal slave labour. That’s pretty fucking cruel stuff.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Also invades small countries on whim, votes against the well-being of humankind, meddle in other countries' affairs, has been in war for more than 90% of it's existence, never held itself accountable, experiments on its own citizens, and is ruled by a cabal of paedophiles.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    not to get all tankie on you, but China has thus far managed to restrain themselves from bombing other countries' civilian populations.

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  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago* (7 children)

    dude spend two min googling ‘Chinese atrocities from 1900’

    like again I really don’t want to frame this like the US is the good guy, the US is not, but as a matter of scale currently China is still worse

    China has been worse than Nazi Germany

    all that said, US is trying real hard to be #1 in something again so yay!

    fuck I hate this

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    dude spend two min googling ‘Chinese atrocities from 1900’

    Ok, I did that exact thing verbatim, and the entire first page of results are things that happened before anyone here was born.

    I'm not about to claim they're saintly in any way, for sure they have lots of well-documented internal issues with civil liberties, free speech, and oppression of minority groups, but the fact that you're going so far into the past to make your case just makes it a case in support of the opposite view.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    recency bias, there are people still alive that were directly impacted

    but thank you for actually reading about it

    but yes the US is bad, i’m not defending it

    but sure as fuck China doesn’t get to hand wave the past away

    and not all of their evils have stopped

    they’re just not being currently ran by an orange buffoon

    the US had evil shit going on under Obama and yet the world image of the US was much better then

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Do explain how China has been worse than Nazi Germany, sounds like delusion.

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