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[–] 5 points 8 months ago (12 children)

Yeah, but what if you're working with dwarves? And using elvish technology for a guidance system?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    Perhaps need more lore information before we can understand how well the Elvish guidance systems would work under the full effects of Sauron's eye, which, considering the perceived threat and opportunity (in case destabilisation of the rocket is successful), on top of the ease of application (it would be in-air, easier to pick, as compared to little ground targets moving among other landscape objects), I'd say Sauron would put full attention onto the missile.

    Much easier to just find a way to build a better furnace.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    Easy solution, send a rocket or two to take out the Eye of Sauron before launching the one with the ring. Perhaps launch a flurry of them to overwhelm any remaining air defenses, which won't know which one has it.

    Much easier to just find a way to build a better furnace.

    Nope. It's not about the heat at mount doom, but the magic bound in the ring.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    You have the maker of the ring^[Shadow of Mordor]!
    Just make a magic furnace.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Just make a magic furnace.

    Okay, but you need materials that can only be sourced from mount doom

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (7 children)

    That shouldn't be the case, sure you can find some other volcano on the planet, no?
    Oh right, perhaps there were no Geologists among the Elves/Dwarves. Were they not?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    But if the furnace isn't constructed at mount doom, then it wouldn't be able to withstand the magical flames required to destroy the ring.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (5 children)

    What if you get the furnace to be puked out of Eru Ilúvatar's mouth?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    For the same reason Eru Ilúvatar didn't simply strike Sauron or even Morgoth for that matter with lightning and solve everyone's problems from the outset, I guess?

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Right.
    My point was simply that Mount Doom not necessarily the only place that can provide what is required.
    There might be others that are jus not yet discovered.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    The whole point of the story is that it is, though. It's plainly stated, and the entire plot of all 3 books depends on it.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    the missile doesnt need to survive mount doom, it just needs to survive long enough to accurately and precisely deliver the ring into mount doom. however that does not mean that saurons tower wouldn't be susceptible to a missile attack. and honestly missiles are the dumbest way to deliver explosives. you could imitate asynchronous drone warfare using giant eagles. explosives are known even to orcs so it shouldn't be difficult for them to figure some fun shit out.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    1. We weren't talking about the missile anymore, we were talking about a furnace outside of mordor.

    2. I talked about the accuracy and precision in another comment chain, as well as a preemptive strike on sauron's tower.

    3. Missiles can actually be highly accurate with the right technology, albeit at a significantly increased cost.

    4. The eagles are majestic beings who serve at their own will due to their friendship with Gandalf. You're not using them as kamikaze drones.

    5. The orcs don't know how to use explosives. Saruman does, and they were so unheard of at the time that he had stop Wormtongue from holding a candle over a pot of black powder to get a better look. Saruman, the wisest of the five wizards and head of their order, made the explosives and showed the Uruk-Hai how to use them.

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