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[–] 1 point 1 year ago

What even is his beef with her? Like, I haven't even heard her name in 10-15 years.

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  • [–] 108 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Honestly?

    I hope he tries

    She wealthy and still a household name. She can pay to fight, it would make it undeniable he's abusing power.

    And she literally doesn't even live in this country. Absolutely zero danger at all, and she was already saying she might not come back.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What we need to do is start a campaign talking about how he's not smart enough or brave enough to try and revoke her citizenship.

    Dude is easily manipulated.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    The US is one of the only countries that still requires citizens living overseas to file and pay taxes. It’d be great if he further crippled the US war machine this way.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    That gets thrown around all the time...

    https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion

    But the exception to it is pretty rational and covers most people.

    It's like how billionaires convince poor people that can't afford to retire that a tax only 2% of people will ever pay on inheritance is a pressing issue and society doesn't deserve their cut.of problematic levels of generational wealth.

    Like, do you understand how ripe this is for manipulation by the wealthy to turn public opinion against the wealthiest few who pay these taxes?

    C'mon man...

    It's 2025, we need to learn to recognize this shit on our own, misinformation is going to keep getting worse.

    Quick edit:

    For clarity, you do still need to file federal taxes every year, even though you have zero withholdings and still owe $0.

    But people get in trouble for not filing, same as people who live in Alaska. There's no debt for missed payments, but there may be fines/consequences anyways

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Do you know if there are actual penalties for not filing? Most of what I've seen says that you have to pay a fine based on what you owe, but if you owe $0 they don't charge you for it. Some years I don't get around to filing because it's a little complicated and I'm pretty lazy about it. I always file the foreign bank declaration though because there's heavy financial penalties for not doing that.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I've known multiple people who lost federal security clearances for not filing their taxes for an extended period because they didn't owe anything.

    But as far as I know they've never been fined or had charges pressed.

    Very niche concern, but I don't 100% know all the scenarios, so it's best for people to find out for themselves about their own specific situation

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    There's a ton of intricacies to it though, for example if you live in Canada you can't invest in one of the two retirement accounts without paying some pretty hefty fees. Those fees don't affect the rich who can easily pay it off, they only affect small times personal finance investing. Primary residence are only excluded for a relatively small amount (might be enough if you live in a small town, forget it if you live in a major metropolitan area past a small one bedroom condo), and the division with a partner isn't 50/50 like it is in Canada so your Canadian partner potentially looses a ton of money. Increases the cost of accountants and personal finance advisors by like three folds. Etc, etc...

    I get that trying to get rich people to not use tax heavens is good. But this affects regular people who haven't lived in the country for years, decades, as well as their non American families.

    I know this first hand, and second hand, as my immediate and extended family is all sort of cross border intertwined. It's a real pain in the ass.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Do you know how much expats have to pay just to align their taxes and file? Only country to tax on citizenship. It's ridiculous that it's even allowed internationally.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I do know...

    What's weird is you didn't even click the link or even seem to read my comment:

    If you are a U.S. citizen or a resident alien of the United States and you live abroad, you are taxed on your worldwide income. However, you may qualify to exclude your foreign earnings from income up to an amount that is adjusted annually for inflation ($107,600 for 2020, $108,700 for 2021, $112,000 for 2022, and $120,000 for 2023). In addition, you can exclude or deduct certain foreign housing amounts.

    America has bigger problems than migrant workers in other countries who make well North of six figures.

    You're not getting any pity from the average American over "filing fees" when you can do that shit on TurboTax.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago*

    You still need to file... It's complex as shit. It's not an easy filing with turbo tax when you have a company, partners who are not dual citizens etc. I'm by no means rich but I shouldn't have to file taxes where I'm not residing. And if I wanted to get rid of my citizenship it's also expensive and you have to have filed for the past 7 years. It's not about pity. It's about what is ethical. And being the only country to do this it isn't ethical.

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  • [–] 138 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    While this is alarming, it seems like such an obvious attempt to distract us from the people in Texas who died from the Republican party's inaction. As well as the revelation that the Epstein suicide video was edited

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    Wait is there proof of that now?

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    Well there's and entire minute missing, and the video was released with Adobe Premiere metadata....

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    I read that wasn’t even epsteins cell

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    The video shows a totally different cell than the original news pictures yeah.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    So what was the point of it? And why does it matter if was edited?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It matters because that missing minute is when he actually died. One minute he's alive, the next he's dead.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I mean if it’s not even his cell, what’s the point of the video

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The usual: buffoonish attempts at distraction.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    I completely agree. My confusion is with the people who are being critical of the coverup still seem to be missing the point that the video is irrelevant in the first place.

    The video may as well have been of Disney world. I don’t know why anyone cares about the edit and I don’t believe all the people talking about the edit are complicit in the coverup.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Ah the only explanation is you're on the video killing Epstein. Have fun in prison why does the truth matter?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I’m saying if the video isn’t even of his cell, what’s the point of the video and if it’s edit? Who cares about some random cell?

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    You can’t be that fucking oblivious.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    I think you’re not understanding what I’m saying. You’re rhetoric is ironic.

    In case you’ve been in a box, no one is really talking about this point. They are more concerned about the video being edited rather than completely irrelevant.

    The point I am making, which seems to be difficult for people to interpret even they they are calling me stupid, is if the video isn’t even irrelevant why does any even care that it is edited. And secondly, why is there no articles pointing out how misleading the video is.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    What rhetoric?

    I think you’re not understanding a blatant attempt at an obvious cover-up. It matters because we are being openly lied to by the government.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Are you that fucking oblivious to your own rhetoric? You just said

    you can’t be that fucking oblivious

    It’s obvious it’s a cover up. The assessment of the coverup is confusing. I’ve already stated why I find other people’s assessment of the coverup confusing. I shouldn’t have to repeat it again while being called oblivious

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You don't know what rhetoric means.

    And apparently, yeah, you are that oblivious. It’s not that confusing, like, at all. Politicians are lying and making shit up because most of them are on Epstein’s list of clients.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    If it's a legitimate threat, it's not a distraction. It's called "flooding the zone" and it's intentional, but it's mean to overwhelm us in general with the sheer amount of bullshit he spews.

    But don't make the mistake that this is a distraction. He's opening a path to strip anyone he dislikes of citizenship and exile them to a foreign death camp. This is deadly serious and should not be ignored.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Honestly with the corrupt courts, he probably can.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is where he wants to be. He doesn't have that power yet but there are still people who think this is all an act. Morons. This is who he wants to be. He isn't killing people as we know yet but that's the endgame. To become like Putin.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    we should deport him after he loses.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He should rot in jail, preferably the new one in Florida. Unfortunately that’s not going to happen though.

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  • Nah. SCOTUS will never let that happen. Rendition him and his ICE goons to countries like Venezuela. He and his ICE gestapo will have caused the deaths of countless Venezuelan citizens. They're fully within their legal rights to charge him and his agents with crimes against humanity. If Trump can rendition innocent people to third party countries, we sure as hell can extradite the guilty to face trial. Don't even try to use the US justice system, not while SCOTUS is so openly corrupt. Just ship all these bastards off to the home countries of their victims. Let them do with them as they please.

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  • [+] 31 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He’s a toddler that can’t stay focused on anything long enough to give him credit for that level of thinking. Even his own advisers and staff have said as much when they can’t give him briefings more than a few minutes long or he gets bored, spends all his time posting online or watching TV. He’s not manufacturing anything, this is who he is. The press OTOH is perfectly happy to report on one stupidity and then abandon it for the rapidly arriving following ones.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    *Trump thinks he can do anything he wants.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I was explaining this to people when the courts first announced he could revoke birthright citizenship.

    They're not going after Anchor Babies. They apply to everyone. Birth certificates don't have multiple types.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I made my dad go on a rant, when I said if we didn't have birth right citizenship then Trump would be a fucking illegal alien. Because his grandfather was a FUCKING IMMIGRANT! I literally screamed the last part because sick of my dad railing against Mexicans and blaming them for everything. Even though he used to work illegals and even paid to gst some ship in illegally.

    Thankfully I finally cut my dad off I'm done. Sucks that he gets to stay wealthy due to what the true rich done to this country. All that money and he still a toxic and unhappy person.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Oh, don't worry, he'll get his next. Pretty soon there won't be a middle class, there will only be the 1% and the 99% equal in our suffering.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Man I hope your right. He pisses me off. He finally got what he wanted to be rich again. He making 80k a month and doesn't have to work. But I can see just how miserable he is. He fucking rants and raves. He decided to cheat on his wife with a dumb bimbo, who he thinks loves him. But she only cares about his money. On the another hand he got what wanted with that. They are making so much money that the wife he hates won't divorce him so he gets to eat his cake to. He always wanted to have a wife and a mistress (I don't know why) shit goes back to when he cheated on my mom and divorced her to marry my ex step mom.

    So he divorced my mom and married a woman 20 years his senior because she just inherited 2 million dollars. But at same time he still was sleeping with my mom. This went on for about 6 months, until my mom said he have to choose. Her or my step mom. His reply was "why can't I have both."

    Yet all the money a wife and a girlfriend and he still miserable and takes it out on all of us. Calls us losers and thinks Trump is savimg our country. Fuck face got no clue how much Trump is hurting us all. All except him who brags how rich he is everyday until you ask for some then he broke. I hate my father and always have.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What does the man do that pulls on 80k a month?

    That's not rich, that's rich rich....

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Owns an Rv park near Fortworth Texas. He as ovef 115 spots at 850 a month plus electric. Houses so bad in the area that lots of people are turning to live RV rather then trying to rent a house or apartment. He brags that his waiting list earns more than his laundromat.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Can we take away Trump's citizenship?

    If no country wants to have him, I'm OK with dumping him in international waters on a raft.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    What would someone do if their citizenship is revoked? Like if one suddenly finds themself in that situation what can they do other than run to the nearest embassy and beg for asylum? Presuming this is done before one is already in custody.

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  • [–] [S] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Three options:

    1. Go to every embassy or consulate you can and try to get a visa
    2. Live illegally in another country
    3. End up in a concentration camp
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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    For her specifically she's trying to get EU /Irish citizenship through her mother's citizenship (I think).

    But yeah your question stands. I read a post a long time ago about taking citizenship away from terrorists and one guy posted that's really not how it should work. I'm not as well versed as he was but it was basically: The Justice department deals with crimes and punishment, citizenship is just plain membership to a country. If you don't have citizenship to any country it's just like you don't exist in paperwork terms. It doesn't line up with what the justice system is supposed to do.

    Of course Trump just wants to kick people out. So he'll "negotiate" for random countries to take in people (even not their citizens) or he'll slap tariffs on them. This is also what asylum is supposed to be for.

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  • [+] 51 points 1 year ago* (3 children)
  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Absolutely nothing is stopping him. Certainly not the laws, the Constitution, or the Supreme Court. Lower courts are still ruling against him but getting overridden by SCOTUS.

    The only left is we the people and that will take a huge number of us to work together.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Still? This nutless wonder is butthurt over Rosie? What a POS.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    This is what I will go to war to fight. I have been genetically on this continent since the 1630’s. Family fought in the French Indian war and Revolution and all the way up to Vietnam. If you fuck with my citizenship over your feelings. I will and know a lot of others will forcefully stop this clown.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Rosie Derangement Syndrome

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Won’t you please leave the poor innocent billionaire child rapist alone. And start talking about taking away someone who criticized the billionaire child rapist?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "Thinks" is doing some heavy lifting in multiple directions at once there!

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    [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    "thinks" he can?

    When there's no ne to stop him, I'd say he CAN

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    If no one stops him is he wrong?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I know this shitty dollar store Grover Cleveland likes to hold onto a grudge, but damn!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    We need to rendition Trump to Venezuela or other applicable country. They can then try him for all the deaths of their citizens he's caused in his numerous concentration camps. SCOTUS can take its presidential immunity ruling and boof it up Kavanaugh's ass. If we can't try him and all his ICE goons here, then we can send them all somewhere where they can be tried. Trump is sending innocent people to random countries. No reason we can't do the same with mass murderers.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Just a distraction. Focus on what is important.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Stripping anyone he dislikes of citizenship and sending them to a death camp in El Salvador is important. It's one of the most important things happening right now. He's literally paving a legal path to kill anyone he wants.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago*

    Two different things. So far, stripping of citizenship hasn't happened yet and doubtful he could do it to Rosie O'Donnell. It is a distraction from the deportations without due process, warrantless and masked/un-uniformed arrests, even the slow FEMA response in Texas. Focus on what has happened, not the vitriol and threats he makes.

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)
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