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[–] 61 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)
  • Doorbell surveillance network
  • Self-service identity theft
  • State secrets betting house
  • Billionaire fan club fund
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  • [–] 47 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    Fake money probably, it allows me to easily buy drugs from online.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    If people value it I guess it isn't so fake. Most "legit" currencies are just the goverment promising you its worth something anyway.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    A government promising it's worth something carries a hell of a lot more weight than some random tech-bro promising it.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    In both cases the trading value of the currency has almost nothing to do with who originated it, and almost everything to do with how the general public feels about it.

    Just like crypto, most "government" currencies are worth what they're worth only because everyone agrees that they are. That's called "fiat" currency. And that's why fiat currency exchange markets exist. The US Dollar hasn't been "convertible" (redeemable for a fixed amount of precious metal) since 1971, and many other world currencies were already backed in some way by the US Dollar at that time.

    The real difference is in the supply.

    Government fiat currency is difficult to counterfeit, although the government (or reserve bank) can always make more whenever they want. We trust them not to print more money, increasing the money supply and devaluing the currency. However, this is exactly what has happened sometimes in the past, and no doubt will happen again in the future.

    Crypto currency is virtually impossible to counterfeit, and IIRC there's a finite (but not precisely known) amount of it that can be made, no matter who you are.

    Personally, I still use physical fiat currency and no crypto. I'd like to use crypto, but regulation in my country makes it very difficult to use without registering your details with a central authority. And although everyone's pushing e-money options which are similarly tracked, thankfully I still have the option of using anonymous cash.

    I don't do anything bad or illegal. I just believe that government and big business don't deserve to know everything I do in my life simply because they want to.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Fiat currency is based on the government's ability to issue and service debt, which is based on its ability to collect taxes, which is based on the economy it oversees. It's a bit roundabout but the pieces all connect.

    Crypto is supposed the compensation for providing compute resources to a blockchain, which ostensibly backs some application with actual intrinsic value. In that sense crypto is real, but there are no actual blockchains which support valuable applications. The entire thing much more closely resembles a ponzi scheme where real currency is deposited, and then the appreciation it experiences is proportional to the ratio of inputs vs withdrawals, without there being an actual asset creating value.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I tried looking at dreadforum to see how markets work nowadays and found out in a minute I was viewing a mirror that was injecting links

    I think I'll just ask a dude on the street at this point

    But then again I am in a country where that would work with 0 negative consequences for me as the user

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Doesn't dread's captcha force you to check the url? Afaik it makes you fill in specific parts of the url, so that you check that the url you are using is the same one they are using. Curious how the mirror was able to bypass that.

    Regardless I just spent some initial investment saving the pgp public keys and making sure they are legit, so that I can use them to verify dread's mirrors.txt whenever needed. Faster than walking out to the street imo

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

    It's my first actual visit, and I did what apparently is the obvious faux pas

    I googled for dreadforum link, was pointed towards one shown at https://dreadforum.io/

    I entered it into tor browser, no captcha was shown and I landed directly on the site/mirror.

    The one post I read, something concerning validation and opsec on markets or dreadforum, had an explanation that if the text they wrote in hyphens differed from the url right under it I was already viewing a mirror, as they spelled out a link.

    That was true, the url shown was darkmyurl dot com instead of the actual link spelled out hyphenated.

    I was humbled, and have now learned that even asking for the true php keys from you right now is submitting to defeat. The only good opsec seems to be your own

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    honestly, I wouldn't be so hard on yourself. This stuff is way harder than people think. People don't realize how hard it is to establish trust starting from none. Normally you type a website into Google, and Google has already done the work for determining which website is the legit one and which is the shady phishing site, and will filter out the shady site. This convenience does not exist for darknet sites, so you just have to establish trust yourself.

    even asking for the true php keys from you right now is submitting to defeat

    not necessarily. You can get the pgp keys from random strangers online. It's just not the only source you should rely on. Get it from multiple sources and then verify if they are all the same. If they are, think to yourself how likely it is that all 3 sources are actually the same attacker giving you a fake key.

    DM me if you're actually interested in the pgp key and I'll dig it up from my notes

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  • [–] 92 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Without glasses, I thought that said "illegal crab company" and I was all in.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Before I go all in with you, I have to know- is this an illegal company where crabs are the product or where crabs are running things?

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  • [–] 43 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    Ride sharing, short term rentals, Crypto, and AI?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I'm paying $900 for a short term (week and a half), last minute, airbnb, I'm meeting with a potential roommate tmr to move in on the 1st. Paying real rent instead of paying airbnb hosts.

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  • [+] -43 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Oh no the terrible ride sharing!

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    Yeah, when it was "Hey, I drive to work every day, anyone else on this same route want to pay a bit for gas and share my ride?". It was kind of fine.

    But now its just flat out people's "job" as a cabbie without proper cabbie regulation.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    Ride sharing does not remove cars from the roads, typically they take only one person to one place. Actual solutions include LRT, BRT, Metros, U-Bahns, S-Bahns, and REM style automated light rail.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    it reduces cars in public parking lots and spaces though, which is nice

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  • [–] 42 points 4 months ago (17 children)

    Fake money for criminals helped me buy weed when I didn't have a local dealer. It's also how I pay for Mullvad. So fake money for criminals wins.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    I demand privacy, so I'm a criminal anyways

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    depends. not universally, that's right. don't buy dogecoin for privacy.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    Also depends on your definition of privacy. Some people confuse privacy (not seeing what you do) with anonimity (not knowing who you are).

    Public blockchains (like BTC) have zero privacy, as everyone sees the transactions and balances, meanwhile private ones (like XMR) supposedly avoid anyone but two people in a transaction to know that transaction happened, or even to know each other's balance.

    In both cases, I would say you are as anonymous as your way to turn the coin from/into fiat is (P2P, KYC or non-KYC platforms, etc.).

    Like with AI, I like crypto as a concept, but the practice... (specially the resources both consume for what little benefit they end up having)

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You can swap Monero with a more common coin on a decentralized exchange with no KYC, and then cash that out at your Coinbase or whatever.

    Also, Monero is very efficient for a proof of work coin, partially because it's designed to be mined on regular, consumer grade PCs.

    According to Google, it uses somewhere between 645 and 650 GWh annually, compared to between 150 and 204.4 Terawatt-hours (TWh) for Bitcoin.

    Bitcoin was the first, and as is usually the case, that makes it one of the worst.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Fake criminal money more legit than government money. One day I woke up to the news that all my deposits are frozen indefinitely, that I am not allowed to carry cash abroad, and that I am not allowed to get bank accounts or transfers from any foreign institutions. .Thank fuck for crypto and that I had some. It literally saved my life, so yeah, fake criminal money by a long shot for me.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Selfhost instance on .ru

    Checks out. Hows the outlaw life?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Praying for Georgia and Georgian people everyday for letting me stay effectively indefinitely. Otherwise, living like stateless person would've been terrible. Though, technically, despite everything I've posted on the internet, police is not very interested in me, my track record is clean and I can go back anytime, it's just that I'd really, really rather not...

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Fake money for criminals is unironically a decent addition to the world, although it's coded in a really dumb way. Plagiarism machine is overhyped right now, but it also has some legit uses.

    So, the poll actually seems about right.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Even the chatbots now can write code that compiles and does what you tell it to. I'm a system analyst and can code but I am slow. Now I can give a design to any of them and get code that works in a couple of hours, with most of the time spent iterating toward the right result

    In the past it often took a week of afternoons and late nights to turn an idea into working code. I can see why programmers fear for their jobs

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  • [–] 60 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    i’m going with the fake money for criminals, cuz sometimes the criminal in question is a trans person trying to get their medicine

    to my great annoyance, almost all diy hrt online can only be bought using crypto. and wow does it make you hate cryptobros to have to navigate an ecosystem clearly designed for speculation to get your life-saving medicine 🫠

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Can't you just hold your money in a stable coin like USDC to avoid the volatility and speculation?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    the homebrewer i was buying from didn’t support this one, so i would’ve had to convert it, which means fees typically

    anyways, i don’t really care to maintain a crypto portfolio. i buy the coin when i buy the thing, so volatility isn’t too much of a concern. my main annoyance is at the bonkers fees that exchanges want because they (rightly) recognize cryptobros as a milkable consumer base

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Could use localbitcoin.com (or localmonero I guess), though it's been so long since I've been to those sites that I forget if/what kind of cut the website takes.

    But yeah, dunno if you can avoid fees when cashing out to fiat. And if you're using non-kyc sites to swap Monero, they're likely taking some too, for the convenience and privacy (worth it imo)

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    You hate the people behind the ecosystem that enables you to get the medicine you require?

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    fake money for criminals

    I presume you must mean USD?

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  • [–] 73 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Fake Money for Criminals.

    Turns out things for criminals sometimes can be an okay thing for noncriminals.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Say your country makes baby formula illegal to push some breastfed is the only way agenda, would you consider a mother buying formula online with crypto a criminal?

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  • [–] 49 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, because criminality has nothing to do with morals. If the state views you as a criminal, you are a criminal. That's why some criminals are still good people and cool.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago

    The exposure of hotels using surveillance pricing. A room should cost a hunnert bucks a night. Not $100 or $150 or $200 or $250 etc., depending on which "app" you pray to. Am I right Trivago?

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (15 children)

    The very fact that it's "fake money for criminals" is exactly why I didn't pick up any BitCoin when it was 12p per coin.. I could have been rich af off of £10

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    I too, ran across Bitcoin in the VERY early days, when it was pennies. I thought it was a scam and probably illegal, I mean "people can't just set up their own currency, can they?" It didn't help that I first found it when I was poking around in Tor, wondering what the "dark web" was all about.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    "criminals" = people the goverment doesnt like crypto is untraceable (mostly)

    I think thats why there are so many smear campaigns against it

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    crypto is untraceable (mostly)

    It is very traceable. It's just that the government doesn't have a special position with tracing transactions, so there's been a bunch of kludges built on top of the very transparent Bitcoin network to try to mask things.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    For laypersons: they put all the coins in a box and shake the box.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    For your lay: the government puts a significant fraction of the coins into these boxes and can use the statistical information gained from this to deobfuscate transactions. If you put enough money in, either at once or slowly over time, they can figure out who you are.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    thats the point, its decentralized

    anything is traceable IF you have a special position in the transactions

    monero, as an example, lets you run your own node

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Monero is untraceable (if you don't use a KYC exchange to get it), but Monero isn't "most" crypto.

    You said crypto, in general, is mostly untraceable and that's very very wrong.

    Monero is the exception, not the rule.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    There are plenty of issues beyond that, especially BTC and similar coins being energy inefficient, just imagine if every single transaction ran through that. It wasn't designed to be practical.

    And on the less technical side, the biggest contributor to crypto being despised by most people is the massive prevalence of scammers, from companies that pretend to help you invest (while being a ponzi scheme) to rug pulls to other scammers being attracted to it for its perceived anonymity.

    Afaik there's legitimate uses for the underlying technology, but cryptocurrency is just inferior to regular digital currency from a practical standpoint, and you either have to put up with government regulation (defeating the purpose of a currency aside from government) or put up with fraud that can't be stopped by our governments.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    so you have to put up with surveillance or put up with freedom?

    I dont think the state should be able to trace transactions

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    That's very understandable, but impractical for investments and savings, the US insures some banks and the like but it doesn't insure crypto funds, if people's savings end up there based on false promises (or if their assets are managed by a third party) they can lose everything and have no recourse.

    This isn't a hypothetical, it's the story of countless people who lost everything to grifters. I don't think blaming individuals makes a lot of sense when it comes to emerging technology and when, again, regular finance is generally insured by the state. The biggest reason for scammers to flock to crypto is that there's a lot less regulation, making it harder to prosecute them. And that's my original point on the choice we have right now, even if ideally we want better choices in the future. Right now you either go with a traditional institution for financial services, which includes government oversight, or you operate on your own and assume a lot of risks, whether you're even aware of that or not (and financial actors purposely deceive people on this end, as it's in their best interest to do so).

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    the biggest contributor to crypto being despised by most people is the massive prevalence of scammers

    At risk of being called a crypto bro or something (I'm really not, I learned all this shit years before everything turned into what it is), I'd like to play Devil's advocate here for the moment and ask how that's different from fiat currency?

    USD is practically untraceable, and people are being scammed out of it constantly with no recourse.

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