Anyone else remember then being the cool new thing instead of a mandatory one?

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[–] 81 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (15 children)

I want my jailbroken iPhone 6 back.

That thing was sick. Simpler, yet more customizable than iOS currently is.

And I realize everyone probably has a “things were better back then, shakes fist” opinion, but I have reason to believe my exact setup would blow kids’ minds, transported forward in time.

…Other than the camera. For sure. I’d give kids a mirrorless camera to go with it, and it’d still be cheaper than a modern top end iPhone.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I just got a huge nostalgia blast of the days running Cydia on my iPod Touch 3rd gen. I'd customize Winterboard, install emulators, pirate games. The little, touchscreen computer in my pocket truly felt like it was mine! Then I got a Nexus tablet, hopped on early Android, and felt even more free to use my device how I wanted. Fast forward to today and I feel like some sort of criminal running Graphene and just hoping F-Droid repos exist after Google locks down Android. Tech is way less DIY and hella dystopian, as we move into a full surveillance state and compulsive identity verification. But I digress. Now I'm just rambling and depressed about the future of tech. Thanks OP. 🥲

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  • [–] 41 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    And I realize everyone probably has a “things were better back then, shakes fist” opinion

    At some point, we have to start admitting that things were just better before. A lot of technology/software peaked ~15 years ago. Before it started sliding into the fucking mess we have these days.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Some yes, many no.

    Linux drivers? Nowadays you can plug almost anything in and it just works. 15 years ago it may have not been possible to make it work.

    The amount of self-hostable open-source software now beats everything from 15 years ago.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Yeah, the self-hosted and FOSS side of things will forever be improving, but corporate shit just gets worse in terms of UX. I mean even FOSS projects have awful UX sometimes as they try copying corpos and their web apps.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I am not using corpo software for about 6 years now, with Jira/Confluence being the only exception at work, but Windows was never very user friendly. People joke about Linux not being friendly, but it was mostly that those people were used to Windows. But even in Win95, while being better than anything before, and most things after, it wasn't a bastion of UX.

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  • [–] 62 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    I remember when it was socially unacceptable to be glued to your iPhone when you go out with people.

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  • [–] 39 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I remember when I had to leave my GameBoy in the car…

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    i missed the pokemon red, blue, gold and silver versions

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    The number of places that expect you to download their app to do business with them, or sign up with them, is beyond disturbing.

    I now actively try to make their life difficult. I'll ring up,.or try to order at the counter. I had a table at one place, and rang up and ordered pick up. Better service than I was getting lol

    And then I pull out my wallet and try to pay with cash and all hell breaks loose 🤣

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I spent 30 minutes looking for an item at Microcenter.

    I got someone to help look. no good, can't tell you where it could possibly be.

    called up and ordered it for pickup, came back 30 minutes later, there it was at the pickup desk.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    My experience getting help is complete opposite. I love microcenter. Lucky to have 3 of them within 45 min of me.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Same for me. Super helpful staff. I frequently have to wait a minute because they're helping someone else, but if I hang around in their aisle they ask if I need anything as soon as they're done with the other customer.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Hopefully, I will someday be able to buy a Linux smartphone that is truly controlled by me.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    The year of the linux phone.

    I wish it could actually happen. But corporate has learned a lot from the 90s and early 00s. They are lock in experts that won't let that happen easily.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I don’t think that’s the right criteria here. Librem 5 already exists, but that alone doesn’t make it a viable daily driver.

    You would need to be able to do nearly everything through the browser without installing any Android or iOS apps. About 15-20 years ago, you could live like that, but can you do that today? I would argue that you can’t, because the world has moved on. Of course, you could always sever your ties with the rest of the world and demand everything to work through a browser because you can’t install the apps everyone else depends on.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    We can boycot banks that mandate android/ ios apps, we can put phones in faraday cages, we can form new cell operator companies, we can form unions and increase their political power and whilst the republican seats of power atrophy we can guide them by active participation into compassionate forms so they dont become a source of backlash. We can support companies like pinephone and librem for small handhelds if we want, we cant support risc-v, we can use gnu guix and bolster its usability to verify the validity of the software stack.

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  • [+] 17 points 4 months ago* (3 children)
  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    You can't exist without a smart phone now. I went to a baseball game and refused to install their app for the ticket (which couldn't be purchased with cash). They said they can text a link to a QR code. Printing it wasn't an option.

    I should have asked what I could do if I didn't have a phone but I suspect their head would explode.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    At Costco, you can't get in line at the optical center. unless you use a phone camera to shoot the QR camera. I hate that: for most of my life, I was phoneless, and now I am obligated to pay for a service and device that I don't care for.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Really? I haven't personally run into anything at Costco that needed a smartphone, though I admittedly haven't used their optical center.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yup. Went there to get some new glasses a couple days back, had to figure out my smartphone's camera feature on the spot. An old lady also had to be taught by someone how to do the QR thing.

    I don't like it. The haves and have nots of the world will be determined by smartphone status.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I essentially can't go to most concerts anymore because of the "mobile only" ticketing.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    I was actually able to buy paper concert tix last November at a major arena. I wanted them for a gift. I had to go to the box office during a sporting event. He told me to keep it on the down-low because they are only supposed to print them if there is a very good reason like equipment failure or something. And he still said I had to give him my phone number. Not sure whose number I gave him though.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago

    Yeah I can't do tickets cause my Ticketmaster account broke and won't send me emails anymore. I can't get into the venue any other way or I have to spin up all new accounts for the monopoly machine

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I remember when only my dad could lift the 15" b&w TV.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    My first TV was one of those with the rule that I had to get it to my room myself to keep it and my first bedroom was in a basement and the when I moved it was to the attic. Fun times. Heavy fricking TV

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    We had one of those big green screen TVs. I remember when we threw it out so the kids gathered to hit it with a bat. It could not break! Even with a hammer that front part of the screen was intact. Crazy thick glass and all.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 4 months ago

    Yeah, I could not do anything to this thing either. The worst I ever managed to do was put a scent brick that came in a tin can directly on top of it and it melted a hole in part of the housing.

    I miss putting your hand on those and feeling all your hair rise

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It really cracked me up 15-20 years ago when there was a fair amount of panic about the government / world order microchiping people at more or less the same time that everyone was starting to pay to carry around GPS devices that listen to you.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    50 years ago, everyone was afraid to be spied on by the soviets or the US, now its "Hey Wiretap, find me a recipie for pancakes".

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Yes! I remember being obsessed with Samsung Note phones because they were for power users and had so many cool features. The Note 9 was the last smart phone I actually was excited about and I kept that thing for 5 years. I got the S22 Ultra and it was cool but by that point Samsung had removed all the cool hardware features from their phones (thermometer, barometer, iris scanner, finger proximity sensor [could do really cool mouse like actions by hovering your finger above the screen], and a bunch of other cool features).

    Now I have the Pixel 8 pro and slapped GrapheneOS on it. The OS is really cool and so technically amazing but I could care so little about the actual device it's loaded on.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago*

    Sounds awesome! I remember being blown away when my friend showed me the IR camera on his Cat phone, which could see footprints. (He had a Cat phone because he's very clumsy and drops his phone every single time that he ties his shoes.)

    Beyond cool hardware, I had a Huawei P30 which came with a really good "augmented reality" ruler. It was quite accurate. And it had a nice IR transmitter that could act as a legacy remote (Xiaomi also does this but their software is not as good).

    Now I have a Pixel and holy hell is it too large for its own good. Supposedly a compact phone.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    How is the P8P with Graphene? My P8P has been absolute hell lately, with constant wifi disconnects and calls break up every minute or so. I wanted to like this phone coming from OnePlus but honestly it has felt like Google just seem to pop out new phones and leave the old ones riddled with software bugs.

    I'm not a huge privacy person, more like mild so I haven't heavily considered Graphene but I'm getting fed up with this one haha

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Yep went down hill after the BlackBerry Storm

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  • [–] [S] 21 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Oh man, full keyboards... A dream

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    I've been looking into a new phone, and I'm seriously considering one of those "Unihertz Titan" ones with the physical keyboard.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 4 months ago

    There was a brief moment when there was a tech being talked about that would shift the glass coating to give tactile feedback on a touchscreen...

    Going back to something I might finally stop having to completely relearn from changing phone sizes, just sounds better somehow, even though they arent perfect.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    The G1 with the slide out keyboard was so nice from an interface perspective. I had been saying for years and years how I would love a modern version of the G1, but in the last few years smartphones have been ruined enough that I don't even want that anymore.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    This is exactly what Orwell feared TVs would become when he envisioned telescreens. Took a little longer for it to come to fruition. What's fascinating about the novel that people over look is that the older generation in 1984 tend not to own them because they're resistant to new technology just like today. So they aren't really mandatory. Like smartphones.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    I think the Party members were required to have telescreens, but the proles were not because they were seen as unimportant and incapable of organizing a rebellion.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    But that's the thing, from my understanding, you don't have to be a party member. You can become a prole. At one point, Winston and Julia discuss becoming proles but dismiss that and I assume that's a satire of how the middle class refuse to give up their status and thus accept oppressive technology.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I missed using the Playstation Portable in college. It was a fun handheld device where we can play fighting games such as Tekken and Guilty Gear and action adventure games God of war, Medal of Honor and Dissidia: Final Fantasy

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I think about the fact that the Nintendo DS let you animate, draw, message friends, work as a step counter and all kinds of stuff. The PSP had a Sim slot and could be used as a GPS. I used mine for media, music and comic reading on it was awesome.

    Like the things you could do was important and not just the data that could be scraped from you. Like they made it a competition to make them something you would want to use instead if all reduced to the black brick you have to have.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Okay I have been wanting to get an mp3 player for my bike (to leave attached) but now I want to use that psp you mentioned. I don't $150 want one, but maybe if I have a profitable summer

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago*

    In part I get what you're saying and it still sucks that these games are under represented on the switch (haters say: get a steam deck!) but you can also still use the psp, or also play them on ps vita.

    I have to say it's a shame Sony scrapped the sleek higher end mobile gaming device concept.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    When the subject comes up I have often said that cell phones are what we avoided in the PC space when the IBM BIOS was reverse engineered.

    It has been a disappointment to me that so many smart otherwise tech literate people have seemed to not be able to see the tech industry, and others, putting the digital noose around out necks with smart phones.

    We are not too far away from entire brick and mortar businesses being off limits to someone whose only smart phone is not an iPhone and does not pass Googles Play Services Safetynet checks for an app and the only method to pay they have being cash or a physical credit card. That is wild, and something that should worry nearly everyone that has a vested interest in being able to live their lives without being under the thumbs of private corporate interests if they so choose.

    And that is before even getting into the even more concerning parts of modern phones which take all of the above and make it scary by replacing private corporate interests with governments.

    Nothing good ever comes from getting in a position where you have to interact with, or obey, another party and they get to set all of the terms.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I was watching a show the other day where the wealthy protagonist got his phone thrown to the grown and smashed by someone and he freaked out because it was a $200 phone. I think the episode is like 10 years old or so. Phones used to be cheap to own as well as cool.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Ack most phones are really expensive now. But I pretty much just use mine for comms, personal organisation. I have never paid more than 300 for a model and i typically buy a new one every 4 or 5 years. Crazy seeing models priced at 2k or up though.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I would be happy with a Nokia 3310 with Signal and Matrix support.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I have my blue and grey Nokia still.

    When I was on my way home from work on the subway, I just tried to fill the screen with a snake the whole time.

    I still hope for a cool game to be included when I buy a new phone. Spoiler: there is no cool game included

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago*

    That's how they get you every time, now, it seems! First release....

    Them: hey look at this cool *cheap new thing that's so amazing *soon you won't be able to live without it!

    Us: wow, shiny.

    Little time later after you're hooked... $$$$$$$

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    And shit form factor, huge and bulky but very flat only. Because all customers demand it.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Same thing’s happened to cars: They all look like SUVs because people want to feel rugged.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    No, that'w because the larger vehicles have more lax emissions standards.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah. Got a loaner car from Volvo and even as a “compact” it’s bigger than my 10 year old car in my garage.

    There’s a stupid EPA rule that needs to go away like the chicken tax.

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