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[–] 48 points 5 months ago (13 children)

how to get around low-flow shower head laws.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    to save water for everyone, avoid baths and take showers.

    I'll shower instead, but fuck anyone that wants me to save water for them

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I'm a lot more worried about agriculture and golf course water usage (and runoff) than I am the shower gallons.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    My comment was intended as a joke that is relevant to the image posted.

    Would you like to spread other true but unrelated propaganda, like meat farms or other agricultural efforts taking up water?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Why wouldn't they simply tax water use at progressive rates? If you use a lot of water, you have to pay a lot of money (ideally, towards water processing services).

    Doing low-flow laws makes for easy loophole setups like this, not to mention simply buying a device in/from another state. I doubt their cops are kicking down doors for Suspicion of High-Flow Toilet.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    They do have different rates depending on usage, at least here in Jersey, but those rates are basically 0-3000 gallons, 3000-10000, and 10000 and beyond, for example. So what I'm saying is they're very high and basically only distinguish between residential, commercial, and agricultural. Although I shouldn't say agricultural, because they often need to get special permits and pay different rates altogether.

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It's good training for when you participate in a riot caused by a drinking water shortage.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    I just did a shower remodel and it's extremely difficult to get the flow rates for these things. Even just with a normal shower head, plus rain head, and a single wand, I can empty the 50 gallon hot water tank in about 10 minutes. These crazy drowner showers practically require parallel tankless heaters to supply 10+ gpm.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    They have a thing I think is called a water mixing valve. You crank your tank way up. The valve mixes cold and super hot water to what would be normal hot water. This makes the hot water tank last a lot longer. We have one, and both kids can take showers/baths at the same time. And I can shower after and still have hot water. The overall flow and pressure of course is still not enough to run more than two shower heads at the same time without noticing. But that's a different issue.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    You need to be really careful turning up your heater unless you've got safety mechanisms on every faucet. Even just 140F will scald a stupid kid/adult/worker in seconds. Many people get disfigured and sued every year over this. 125-130F is about as high as you should go unless you have protection everywhere.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The mixing valve mixs in cold water to the hot water coming out to bring the temp down to where you choose. 140 water never leaves the valve, which is mounted on the exit from the hot water heater. The design is super simple, so failure is very unlikely. But it is designed to fail to full cold.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I have never heard of a whole home mixing valve. That sounds like it would be a pretty complicated retrofit.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Nope, super simple. I could theoretically even do it myself. I didn't but it is that simple. This looks a lot like the one I have. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Honeywell-Home-AMX300TLF-DirectConnect-Water-Heater-Kit/5018636545?user=shopping&feed=yes

    The part on the left is the mixing valve, you attach it to the output of your hot water heater. The part on the right is just a basic T junction you out on the inlet to the hot water heater so you have a source of cold water for the mixing valve.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Does anybody make a good recirculation system? Basically take the guts of a jet tub and put the jets on the wall.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    CIA interrogation simulator

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    “Turn of the tap on time, water is limited and precious, love yourself and the planet we live on”

    Meanwhile…

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago

    All this water wasted on your shower could be used to generate a spam email or an image of jesus made of shrimp. Before you waste this much water water, think of what's important in the world, Sam Altman's net worth.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    If I get my water from my well and it goes right back into my septic tank on my property.

    How much water am I actually wasting?

    I just moved the water 40ft vertically, and ~100ft horizontally

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    I've never found these more appealing than a good single adjustable angle wall mounted spout with decent pressure. For the life of me I don't know why anyone would want a single ceiling mounted "rain" head. I think those are the worst.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yes like being drowned. And I don't want to get my hair wet every time I shower! Stayed w my brother, he had an overhead shower like that and I thought my hair would mildew, it was always wet.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I talked a DIYer out of installing a rain head on a stall shower--one of those that are about 3 feet square. I told him to imagine taking a shower where you couldn't get out from under the water. You'd need to turn it off to lather and then turn it on to rinse. It was for a guest bathroom. He thought it was trendy and cool.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    As someone who rocked a rain head ... yeah totally. I also still had a 'normal' shower head on an adjustable flow valve. lol

    ... though the pure rain head wouldn't have been too terrible. My hair is like 90% of what takes direct flow to clean. Asscracks etc aren't 'that' bad to wash via finding the right posture and waiting a few moments for enough water to find its target.

    ... I am fully willing to admit my opinion may change drastically in 30 years when even a leaned over posture becomes a PITA.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Hansgrohe has a shower world about an hour from where I used to live. When we were remodeling our bathroom I spent a happy hour there, trying out all the different shower heads and installation options. It was really interesting to be able to move between different models and feel the difference.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Are you nude when you try them out? Or like you just stick your hand in? Or ?

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    And yet no ass blaster nozzle 🤔🧐

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  • [–] 28 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Hey, did you know you can turn around? its like walking without going anywhere just rotating yourself.

    Make sure you rotate around the vertical axis, and practice on soft ground before trying it in a wet hard surface like a shower.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
    [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Won’t anyone think of the poor datacenters?

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    feel the rain on your skin!

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    One rain head and a wand is fine for me. As long as the rain head is wide enough to get all of me while I sit on the shower floor letting it run over me while I contemplate my life for 10 minutes. The wand to actually do a good job of soap removal.

    I had one of the nice showers with rain head and two wall jets and a wand. The jets never turned off just wasted pressure that could have gone elsewhere.

    I am glad the people who bought my townhouse didn't get an inspection because they would have found out that one of the knobs just spun and the other knob wasn't fastened so came loose. The previous people we bought it from did a shoddy remodel that we didn't get an inspection for so we just passed it on. It was our first home so we learned to pay for the inspection with our next place.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I just want a wand with a nice balance between pressure and area. My current one is great, it has a setting somewhere between massage head and regular. It's nice and penetrates my hair quickly. That said my other priority is that the head is sufficiently high up. I'm just tall enough I often have to bend over, use the wand part, or sit/kneel to wash my hair, and I hate that. Tall people deserve showers too

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    LOL I got lucky with the sale of my home too. The new owners passed on the home inspection, so thankfully they didn't notice my DIY hacks, like fixing the door trim with wood filler after I got locked out one day and had to kick the door down to get in; they also somehow didn't notice the cracked tile in the middle of the living room. FWIW there were spare tiles leftover to swap it out, all the appliances were less than 5 years old, and there were no major structural issues with the home so they still got a decent deal.

    But anyway I use a wand on a hose as well but I still want a shower like this. 'Cause I swear that no matter much I rinse my back off, I still miss some soap and end up with an itchy back after my shower. I kinda regret installing a whole-home filtration system since it makes rinsing the all the soap off take so much longer! I'm seriously considering not installing one when I buy my new home in the next few months (and I'm taking my sweet time cause it's a buyer's market at the moment).

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    I feel my water pressure won't be high enough

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    Man's Bathroom

    If you ever watched Home Improvement, you would get this

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I’d die, I feel over stimulated just taking a normal shower, I think I could handle a multi headed shower for like 30 seconds.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I could finish my shower under a minute using this.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I remember staying in a capsule hotel in Osaka, Japan many years ago that had an extraordinary bathing area. Showers like these, and many others. Pools with varying temperatures of water.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Still less water used thsn a small farm lol.

    I think something like 97% of our fresh water supply goes into agriculture.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    In the US it's definetely not true.
    https://css.umich.edu/publications/factsheets/water/us-water-supply-and-distribution-factsheet
    https://www.epa.gov/watersense/how-we-use-water
    Pre-datacenters numbers are ~35% irrigation, ~45% thermoelectric power plant cooling, 12% residential, 5% industry, and then other usages.
    I don't know how much datacenters changed this equation.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago
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    We should have a water recommendation system in every home. Solar powered. A pump give you a 2hr shower of your life every day. Then that water passes through several filters until it ends up back in the Reservoir. So that way you don't waste so much water daily.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    You'd waste more water on those filters than you'd reclaim.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    Well, what if it was live? Like the first level would be sand with UV. Then a second level had snails eating dead skin and alleges processing nitrates. Then a fish pond. LOL yeah, well you'd be treating the water in situations. You wouldn't want to use just any soap and such. It is possible but probably expensive or hard or both.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    It is possible but probably expensive or hard or both.

    You'd be surprised...

    Well, what if it was live?

    Now you're getting somewhere!

    Skip the sand and the UV and the snails. Definitely skip the fish pond... You don't want anything in your drain going into a body of water with large vertebrates in it. You don't want animals to be involved in the filtration process at all.

    You want plants. Plants, and bacteria. You want to inject the water into a large patch of vegetation and topsoil, where friendly little microbes will consume all the biologically active material, leaving the ground water to percolate through biologically inactive, mineral earth and back into a deep, underlying aquifer whence that water originally came.

    You're inventing a "septic system".

    You'll want two tanks. The first will allow solid materials to settle. Anaerobic bacteria will act on solid biomatter, breaking much of it up into soluble effluent. The effluent at the surface overflows into a second tank, where more settling and more bacteria continue to decompose it. Next, the water from the surface of the second tank overflows into a leach field, where perforated pipes release it into topsoil. Here, decomposition switches from anaerobic to aerobic, and the process is similar to composting. The subsurface compost becomes fertilizer to surface vegetation, and the remaining water percolates into the ground water, and ultimately, the aquifer.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    That's called a sewage treatment plant, and it's usually done at a large scale because it's way more efficient that way. Would you want to install a grain mill in every house so people can grind their own flour? Would make a lot more sense to share one communally, no?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    I don't know about you but growing up we had our own grain grinder. I vividly recollect going to the market to find replacement stone wheels for it. Much has changed and the world is worse off now.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Put it on full blast and full cold so can really simulate that feeling

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  • Honestly, give me a pressure washer with the maximum pressure human skin can handle.

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