Visiting London for a few days, and noticed a lot of half-mast flags: red cross on a white background (reminiscent of some crusaders, Templars?) any symbolism behind them being shredded? Its a lot of them, must have cost a ton of money…

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[–] 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Its the flag of England, racists have been hanging them up all year.

They're half mast because the racists are too stupid or too scared to get a longer ladder.

No idea why they're shredded but they tend to use cheap Chinese made flags that don't hold up to the weather.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It's the flag of St Georgios of Palestine, Patron Saint of Ukraine. I would assume it's to show our support for Ukrainians and Palestinians against the aggressive wars of Russia and Israel.

    The flags are decaying, likely as a symbolic gesture by the artist, to remind us of the destruction and decay caused by these wars.

    There's a small chance I might be incorrect, of course.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    They've been put up by racists to support the systematic demonisation of migrants and people they see as "foreign"

    We don't like racism in this country but the flags help the racists normalise it so when it comes to an election it can be a talking point instead of the blatant racism that it is.

    The flag idea was sponsored by a certain party of people who have REFORMed themselves into a political party.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago*

    They’ve been at half-mast ever since Mr Bean drove the princess of our hearts into a pillar in that Paris underpass. NEVER FORGET.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Oh, it's an interesting story, this one! It's actually the flag of Genoa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoa#Flag

    There's a fairly large community in the area descended from Genoans who fled to London when Napoleon invaded. Those Genoans brought their flags with them to prevent Napoleon from capturing them, to sort of say "you've got the land, but you'll never get Genoa". Their descendents today still fly those same historic flags each year on the day that their first ship landed in London

    Also, of course, lying is a popular hobby on the internet

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Got them round here too, look like complete shit. Get a proper flag and flagpole you bellends.

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    [–] 18 points 5 months ago

    Seeing as theres no complete answer here ill give it a go.

    The flag is the st george cross, the flag of england.

    A bunch of racists have been using cherry picker lorries and metal hoops to put them all over the place on lamp posts.

    Fulfilling the nationalist symbolism a little too precisely these flags that have survived since being first put up are now worn out rags only fit for the bin.

    Perhaps these people with so much pride in their country will go out and buy new clean ones and put those up. But they might find, as councils have, that vandalising hundreds of lamp posts with tight metal rings is an absolute nightmare to clean up after.

    The country looks like crap. Well done dickheads.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    These are just the normal England flags tied to lampposts by wannabe Blackshirts.

    They appear half mast literally because that's as tall as their ladders are.

    They are tattered because although their "patriotism" extends to marking territory, it doesn't include maintenance or upkeep.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    If you get arrested for sex offences, you have to fly one of these flags on your house, so people know to stay away.

    If an area has a large amount of sex offenders, they also have to add additional "paedo flags" to nearby lampposts etc as a warning to people travelling near the area.

    I think they're likely just shredded because of the recent weather, and there's no additional symbolism there.

    There's a small chance I might be incorrect, of course.

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  • If I had to guess without any more info, I'd say it's probably something racist/white supremacist. Hopefully it's something way less serious, lol.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    I think it’s just a nod to a far right iconography…Tesla included too.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Nationalist pride

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago (8 children)
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    I'm 99% sure there aren't City of London flags tied to lampposts on an industrial estate near Heathrow. It'll just be the usual England flags you see across the country.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (6 children)

    The only difference is a tiny sword and city of London flags are all around historic London, just not greater London and Heathrow is like 3 miles away from historic London.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Raise_the_Colours

    So could be either and the reason is far right douchebaggery.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Do you mean the City of London? Heathrow is over 20 miles from the City.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    You are an American who just got your alternative potential answer from Wikipedia, right? Decent rapid research skills, well done.

    But you need to keep going to contextual information. "the Historic City of London" is what it says on the page you linked, but click on "City of London" for its definition, perhaps.

    And if you're doing a bit like other posters, you need to keep the format roughly the same to convey that metatextual information.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child)

    That’s such a vague term as to be meaningless. The City has historic parts, but lots of modern parts. So does Westminster. So does most of Greater London. Even the Heath Row goes back to at least the 15th Century.

    And no, the Flag of the City of London would mot be seen in any of these places except the City and (for roundabout reasons) Epping Forest.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago

    I offered two solutions homie, nuh uh is nice and all but a better answer seems like it would be better. They wanted to know what the flag is, either city of London or England. Why are they there location or far right right chucklefuckery.

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  • [+] -4 points 5 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Oh I thought it was just racism. It's so hard to tell the difference these days isn't it.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    If they're tattered, they've been there a while. You'll know when the world cup flags go up, because they'll be all over every pub with a TV. The pubs aren't yet covered in world cup flags. These are racist flags.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Here's some contextual guidance: when racist cunts do it, its intent is racist. When other people do things for other reasons, such as to express solidarity with the victims of genocide perpetrated by a different bunch of racist cunts, it's not racist.

    And in Scotland and Wales, the nationalism is inclusive, so it's different from the exclusive, violent shit that idiots like Are Tommeh are promoting in England.

    I hope this helps, though I doubt if it will.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    So why were they put up by drunken idiots and not the council?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Yeah I never said they weren't lucky drunken idiots did I. Anyway for all I know they did fall off the ladder, I wasn't really inclined to go down and talk to them, as they were not exactly open to the suggestion that perhaps sticking timu flags, upside down, on every single lamp post in the town was a good idea.

    If they really cared about their country why don't they go and sort them out now they are a tattered mess? For that matter why didn't they put them up professionally, all the way at the top of the lamp post, and with appropriate attachment cable so that they can bring it back down again when it inevitably needs maintenance. That's why the council don't put up flags because it's a massive investment in cost to no benefit, and we're not Americans so we don't need to weave the flag around all of the time in order to feel big.

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