Interesting. I thought companies usually waited until they at least had a good product or cashflow before going for enshittification.
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how can you file confidentially for a public offering?
that's like throwing a public party where you are expecting to make money off the cover charge but not telling anyone about it
Poor wording. The content of the filing is confidential, not the act of filing.
But don’t the public investors need that info to decide? Like a prospectus?
I don’t know that much about IPOs. I’m just assuming.
First the SEC and other authorities need to vet the offering. By filing confidentiality this initial stage is kept from competitors.
It means that instead of filing publicly 90-120 days ahead, they can hold off public prospectus to 21 days ahead of launch.
Yeah, wanting to keep that private just seems shady and like it should be a major red flag
First an IPO has to get SEC approval. A confidential filing means they send the information to the SEC without it being generally available. The public prospectus follows after approvals are given.
...begin?
Wait how can they make it worse?
The usual IPO: layoffs, increase the price of the subscription, ads in the results.
Don't underestimate their creativity when it comes to making things worse for the plebs
Well, they were one of the best of the turds. I was kind of hoping they'd stick around and be a mitigating force on the AI market that at least taps the brakes on all the bullshit. Seems unlikely now.
I worked for a company once that went IPO and we had stock units assigned to us.
CEO: Companies try to stay private for as long as they can, they don't just IPO for the hell of it. They're trying to solve a problem with money. Maybe they owe people money, maybe they need to spend a bunch of money to take the company to the next level. An IPO doesn't fix any problems; rather, it turns one set of problems into a bigger, harder set of problems.
Founders try to cash in. They've raised the cow, now's the time to send it to the butcher for parts
You don't have to IPO to cash out, people cash out of private ventures all the time.
If the founders all want to cash out at once, or there's a iceberg that the see, or the company isn't as liquid as it needs to be to cash out....
I strongly suspect they either can't find or sustain the profit, or they think the bubble is close enough to get out early.
IPO brings a lot of money though, much more than seed money.
It brings tons of money, but also a microscope and public disclosure. You lose a LOAD of control over the company and get to be inspected by lots of entities. And if you have a badish quarter, you're held directly accountable by the public.
They usually don't want all that if the company is doing fine.
i cant wait until the bubble bursts and every single ai company collapses
I can. They're propping up the whole stock market at this point. Pretty much the definition of "too big to fail." So when they inevitably fail, Congress is going to give them our tax dollars.
People are delusional in believing this will actually happen and it just makes everyone passive and have inverse effect we want for just and fair society. So maybe stop waiting and start doing.
A company worth 4 billion has produced 5 billionaire..its all a crock. Apologies, thought we were talking of Palantir.
Does the US Stock Market even mean anything anymore? It's been screwed and manipulated by so many people it's mostly a dead corpse that holds no real value for society anymore. Just a broken money tool of the rich.
I think, at this point, it's really just like a dozen people trying to control the world via trading money that is essentially meaningless to them.
Time to short the fuck out of them, I guess.
Why do all these headlines say that a company "confidently" files for an IPO? I'm assuming it's just AI, but man is that tired and confusing.
Confidentially. I read confidently at first too.
So they confidentially go public. Makes sense lol
It does, actually. From the article:
Anthropic’s confidential filing will give regulators a period to look over the company’s financial disclosures before the AI firm’s investor prospectus becomes public. Filing confidentially has become common for major firms, with SpaceX approaching its IPO in the same manner. […] “This gives us the option to go public after the SEC completes its review. The proposed initial public offering will depend on market conditions and other factors,” Anthropic said.
OK, but same question
From my limited understanding this info will eventually become public as you imply but Anthropic must feel keeping this info private for now is in their benefit.
I fully suspect it would hurt their image and IPO and that’s why they are hiding it for now. To get as large of IPO as possible.
As the Bloodhound Gang said: Lift your head up high, and blow your brains out.
*Whoops, that's confidentially, not confidently. Still.
Life is short and hard, like a body-building elf
I really hope that some of these big players in the AI market will stay private. There are already enough headwinds to them being a force of good in the world without having to report to shareholders of the lowest denominator.
I assume they are all running for the public exit because they are losing money faster than they can raise it and don't have any reliable business models to which they can transition in the near term. If they can't become profitable, the next best thing is to go public while the hype is hot and to cash out ASAP.
You mean you don't want every AI company to be driven by shareholder interests?
There was an interesting podcast recently from freakonomics about Epic software and how it’s always been private. It reinforced my perception that companies do better for humanity when they stay private.
Most C corps have the same tragedy of the masses problem that we face with pollution and resource scarcity. Not to mention that the average anything is mediocre. So, in a word, yes.
Market manipulation it is then. Let's go lads! I will be dancing over their grave once they go bankrupt.
Hmmm, well that can only go really bad or really good for investors, I would think. No middle ground here. It just depends on what the mob does.
I predict it will be a very good buy. Anthropic is one of the leading AI companies.
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