The car in the thumbnail is $640,000

this. it comes at a time folks are dipping into savings and even retirement to have food and shelter. They can't stretch for a new car. Far easier to drive less.

https://www.cargurus.com/details/448106322?

https://www.cargurus.com/details/448887413?

https://www.cargurus.com/details/449592528?

Exactly!

Price is one thing, but this is the deal breaker for me. I want something I can fix when broken. Something with components that can be replaced with typical shop tools. Give me physical buttons over a touch screen. Give me hydrolics, link and pinions, and belts over electronics. There is zero reason for a door handle to be electronically controlled. There is zero reason for the manufacturer to have any control, or knowledge of, where I go or what I do. I want a vehicle, not a fucking tablet on wheels.

Look into the used market. Lots of nice EVs for cheap because people think EV batteries degrade at the same rate as cell phone batteries. They don't. I got a 3 year old EV for under 25k.

Yep. This is what's up.

When Nokia translates their brick phone design into an electric car, it'll sell like hot cakes.

Until then, we will see how many shitbox Toyota's we can keep running well past 300,000 miles.

The used car market comes a bit later after new car sales gets going. It's taken off here in the UK now, we can buy lots of EVs second hand. I never buy new cars.

I think slate is targeting that niche with their truck

do you guys not get European, Korean or Chinese EVs? or are thw prices of those inflated in Canada?

It will if you cant put gas in them.

Is your daily commute less than 40 miles? Then a level 1 charger could be enough. Especially if you can charge at work. Worried about the occasional longer trip? Look into plug-in hybrids. You can run your daily commute on the electric engine but the ICE engine is there for longer trips.

You likely don't need to upgrade service, for a L2 charger either. I have 100 amp service and my biggest hurdle was making room in my circuit breaker. I just had to combine some circuits. I had a few circuits that were just lights. Every bulb I have is LED, so there was no problem combining them. Then I added a $100 device that monitors my whole house usage and turns off the charger if there's a chance of tripping the main breaker. But that never happens because I have the charger set to 30 amp, which is plenty for me. I'd have to be running the dryer, oven, and charger at the same time for that device to kick in, but I have the car set to charge after 9pm when we never cook or do laundry. I could run it at 50amp with this strategy, but it's way more than I need for my 20 mile commute.

If you're genuinely interested but think you can't because of your home charging options, then check outthis video from Technology Connections. This video about electricians unnecessarily hooking up 50 amp lines for EV chargers might be useful too.

I am very happy to never use local gas stations again. Charging at home is a huge convenience.

You might take a closer look at whether you can install a charger: a nice 50a charger is a great convenience, but you could still cover your needs with less.

• most EVs can schedule charging, so it’s only used overnight when nothing else is
• I saw a blog about a “smart” charger that only charged when sufficient capacity was available
• i saw a smart dryer adapter - use the 30a dryer outlet but only when the dryer isn’t running
• you could install a 20a/240v air conditioner circuit to cover most charging needs
• even a standard household outlet can keep up with average driving

Why would a gas station have a charger?

Maybe, maybe not. If there is space in the panel, you could still install a Tesla charger and go into the settings and rate limit it down to what your panel can safely provide. I installed one on my garage and moved it down from 48 amps to 40, but I am pretty sure it can go down much further if desired. Even 24 amps charges the car overnight, so it isn't a big deal at all unless you drive a ton.

The pandemic killed my car because I left it sitting for weeks. Which wasn't a big deal since it was almost twenty years old and still had a CD player.

Excited, I was expecting to pay like $20k for a really nice new car. And to my surprise, $20k is baseline average used car now, and new cars are at least twice as much.

Most people buying a cheap car think "why buy new when I can get a 3 year old luxury car for the same features". Thus selling more expensive cars is the way to make money. Luxury car buyers like that there is value in their older cars - meaning they can upgrade more often since they don't have to pay that difference.

That’s the controversial new electric Ferrari. Apparently it was not popular with Ferrari fans.