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[–] 148 points 5 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 56 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Yes, and it's especially obvious with the example of driving. Driving is a licensed activity where you have to pass a competency test before you're allowed to drive without supervision.

    I've had the thought that a lot more things should be licensed with a competency test. Like, for example, I don't know... This is just off the wall and completely random, but maybe a person who runs for President of the United States should have to pass the same exam that people take as part of the process of becoming citizens. Probably the presidential candidates should take a much harder test, but that would require a lot of oversight to make sure the test isn't made to eliminate specific candidates.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    But Trump took a cognitive test, he is good to be president. /s

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    My mother has Alzheimer's and I am always with her when she takes that test, so I end up mentally taking the test alongside her. They actually have two different tests, depending on which doctor she sees, a shorter one and a longer one, and my mother mostly gets the shorter one. There's one part where they list four (five? let's go with four) words and have you repeat them back to them. Then, they ask you some other questions, and then they ask you to recall those four words again.

    Other than misremembering the exact date, which I'm guessing everybody occasionally has the wrong date in their head, that question remembering the four words after being distracted by a different question is the only part where I could ever have lost points, since I have occasionally forgotten one of the words. It's the only question that I feel a normal person has a chance of missing. It truly is a test specifically for dementia.

    The fact that Trump always says the test is difficult and that he got a perfect score on it, given Trump's history lying about things like winning golf tournaments, I think is absolute proof that he does extremely poorly on the test. He very likely fails it. He brings it up all the time because he's as bad at lying as he is at everything else. Good liars know not to bring up the lie a lot. Bad liars keep repeating the lie because they're afraid you might not believe them.

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  • [–] 53 points 5 months ago (8 children)
    • Everyone should have equal rights

    • To ride the bus

    Boom. Solved.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    As a bus driver, hard disagree! There's people who will wait at a bus stop, wait in line to board the bus, and only then will they spend 5 minutes digging through their pockets or bags for fare.

    Or ask where the bus is going, expecting me to tediously list out all the places this bus goes, and when asked the very reasonable question"where are you trying to get to?" Become cagey and refuse to answer. Then ask the same vague and open ended questions.

    These people should report to the nearest artillery practice range asap

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I like the ones we have around here waiting at the bus stops on our main boulevard which is a perfectly straight road you can see up and down for about a mile and a half in either direction, but who will stand out in the travel lanes and craaaane their necks in this ridiculous pose apparently hoping this will allow them to see the bus coming sooner.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Never understood why bus stops didn't have little kiosks to buy a ticket there, like train stations do.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Too expensive. Most bus stations are basically just a sign, sometimes you also get an ad poster and a shelter. Bringing kiosks would imply setting up electricity and internet. When you could instead just make a phone app.

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  • [–] 43 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    I was at my first gun show with an older friend who knew guns better than I did who I was following around to keep me from making any stupid decisions.

    There's a table with a sign for "Constitutional Carry," where they don't think you should need a special license to concealed carry a handgun.

    My friend walks up to these two guys at the table, and says "Hey, just so you know, I hope you guys fail."

    The younger of the two kind of bristles, but the older one, a dude with a long white beard, says "Oh, why?"

    My friend says "Because I worked in a gun shop for fifteen years, and I helped fill out more concealed carry applications than I can count and..." at this point she gestures around at the huge room behind us, "I wouldn't trust 95% of the people in this room with any gun at all."

    And the old dude behind the table smiles and nods his head and says "Yeah, that's a fair point."

    So anyway, that's the day I bought a Ruger GP-100 in 357 Magnum.

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    So anyway, that's the day I bought a Ruger GP-100 in 357 Magnum.

    1000004015

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    explain joke plz me chronically stupid

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    “Wonderwall” is a song that’s very easy to learn on guitar so the meme is that bad guitar players will bust out a guitar and subject you to their bad rendition of the song at inappropriate times when nobody asked for a performance.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    15 years ago me and a buddy were shooting pool in a local bar, maybe a dozen total people in there. Some I finished taking guitar lessons last month douche was playing acoustic in there and it's the same list of basic songs you'd expect. Partway through his set he was giving the usual platitudes, suggesting tips and saying we're a great crowd, then says "So anybody wanna hear Your Body is a Wonderland?"

    At the same time we both casually said No.

    He was some college age kid in jeans, a white v-neck tshirt and a Glock on his belt....in a bar.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    man with gun go "bang bang bang". man with guitar goes "bang bang bang". one with gun the other with instrument.

    1000004017

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    ah so the meme was in american, got it

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  • [–] 40 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Driving is not a right. WAY too many people are allowed to drive. What’s worse is that WAY too many people have no option BUT to drive

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    What’s worse is that WAY too many people have no option BUT to drive

    That's exactly why it's treated as a right. Can't drive?Can't live.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago*

    I wanted to make a joke about how the American brain simply lacks the part that enables manual locomotion, but our cities straight up do not allow for it. If I cycled to work, it would take me an hour to get there and an hour to get home. I'd love to live within cycling distance of work, but I don't make enough money to rent in that area, let alone buy

    Our cities are deeply unwell, and I don't think it's possible to fix them

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Wow what a bummer that trains, buses, bikes, electric scooters, and every other mode of rapid, inexpensive transportation has been un-invented. Those would have been really useful literally every moment since they were first invented. If we had those we could treat driving like it was the most dangerous thing people do every day, which it is.

    My point is that driving is essential only because the people in power have unilaterally decided that it must be, and fuck them for that.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    No, I get it, the problem the way we've chosen to build society, but now that it is the way it is, judges and juries are reluctant to ban someone from working and buying groceries for anything less than a prison sentence...

    Like it's pretty crazy to me that the State (USA) can seize you car if you transport drugs with it, but not if yoU literally run over a human being. People with multiple violations and triple-suspended licenses still get to keep their cars.

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  • [–] 65 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Solid public transport would fix a lot of that but Ford and GM gonna Ford and GM.

    People go "ooh, a trolley car!", when's the last time you heard anyone go "Ooh, a Lyft"?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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    I don't, I actually got that from my friend who's son is obsessed with trolleys right now. I'll have to check them out of that's a philosophy they jive with

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  • [–] 51 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I don't want to drive, give me walkable cities and public transportation

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Same I am forced to drive, please teleport me. At least biking is fun but you can't do 400km in 4h.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Equal Rights == None of us fucks are allowed to drive.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Trains and trams and busses.

    God I wish... It costs me $250 a month for my car and I own the fucking thing (if you include maintenance costs) so I drive to work twice a day, five times a week, and try to get errands done during my return commute. I might drive once or twice on the weekend, and there are about 4.4 weeks per month on average. That means I spend $5.28 every time I drive. That is WAY MORE THAN TRANSIT COSTS!! Especially if we spent the money we spend on roads and cars, instead on trams or busses

    For reference I also pay for car centric stuff through my utility bills. 10-30% of my utilities might be effectively me paying for the externality of ripping up roads to replace buried infrastructure, that then needs to be paid for AGAIN using my taxes when potholes form over prior ground disturbance, and paid for AGAIN when the road fails early and needs to be ripped up to fix the subgrade.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    Synthesis is: no-one should be allowed to drive

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    The US huge. Unless you live in a metro area and never leave you’re going to need a vehicle.

    Moving state to state, generally, it will take you an entire day at a freeway speed to get 2 states over. We have 48 on the drivable side.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    You could similarly say that Europe is huge, or that China is huge, or that the whole planet is huge, and therefore the people living there must need a vehicle. Except, most people dont leave their local area all that often, and when they do, theres nothing that inherently requires that the vehicle used to do so much be individually owned. This isnt to say that nobody needs a car, obviously if you live way out in the middle of nowhere, running transit might not be so viable- but that does not describe how and where most people live, even in the US, and for the majority that do live in urban areas, the size of the whole country is irrelevant to if they would need cars if we just built the proper infrastructure.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The problem is that even in my local area the infrastructure is built for cars so much that walking takes 10x longer than it should.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    There are many such areas, what I was trying to say was more that that is a solvable problem, if the government of the area was sufficiently motivated to solve it, rather than something like "we're too big for anything but cars", which is more of an excuse to not do any of that change to the infrastructure because it implies that nothing can reasonably be done and that cars are simply the natural way of things.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    The problem is that making my area pedestrian friendly would involve doing a lot more than just adding sidewalks.

    For example, it would make much more sense to link all the cul de sacs with walking/biking paths. But to do that we’d need to bulldoze some houses, get easements from property owners, and then pay for the paths to be put in while hearing construction equipment for months.

    And our local government just doesn’t have the power to do that in a reasonable amount of time, or with any guarantees of it even surviving election season.

    And that’s not even talking about dealing with improving the main thoroughfare which is a state highway, meaning the local government has no say in how it’s built.

    I guess what I'm saying is the big flaw with your plan is "if the government of an area was sufficiently motivated." The way the US government is structured means you need agreement from the voters all the way to the federal government for years to do it.

    I could go down to Sunbelt and get a bulldozer and start knocking houses down for bike paths today if I wanted, but that is largely frowned upon.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The Local Group, which includes the Milky Way galaxy, is over 10 million light years, so you can easily see that I have no choice but to own a car to be able to get around.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Most places in Europe and many places in China have functioning mass transit. Most places in the US do not. The car lobby is very powerful in the US, and they work hard to make life impossible without a car.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Well yeah, that's my point though, there's nothing about the US's size that means it cant have that stuff, the big country argument is functionally just an excuse to distract from what the car industry has done here.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The size isn't that relevant. Trains are far better than cars for long distance travel. The problem with the US is the many areas of low but non-zero population density.

    To accommodate that you need a good rail network and then probably cars to take you the last few hours. This would work best if those cars were self driving, so they can get back to a hub rather than wherever you are in bumfuck nowhere.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    I agree that subsidizing more rail would be good, but it’s pretty fixed, location wise. It’s already in place for most intercity travel.

    Rural/outside city living is diffuse, scatters in all directions from a city. It’s why there’s rush hour in most cities. How do you run rail to all those locations? Can you imagine the nimby screams? It also significantly drops real estate values having trains rolling through the backyard.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    According to Wikipedia there are three U.S. cities with populations over 2 million that have no intercity passenger rail service (Las Vegas, Columbus OH, and Nashville). Dozens of cities used to have rail services but don't any more. In European countries, it's normal for all cities and towns with a population of at least, say, 50,000 to be served by intercity rail, so there's a lot of improvements possible.

    I'm not saying that US rail should aim to serve the rural population - that's what the cars are for.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago* (6 children)

    In addition to what a lot of others have said already, in a more egalitarian society most people wouldn't have to drive

    And yeah, equal rights doesn't mean anyone can just do anything

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Well yeah in a truly just society I would have one of limousine chairs that gets carried everywhere by a bunch of dancing whatchamacallits. You know, grad students.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I'm sure the passengers on the bus would love a 25 minute detour just to pick me up from my rural farm.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, isn't a world where all the transport money's spent on highways, so fun? Too bad there just isn't enough for, you know, a couple extra bus routes.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago

    You have the right to exercise your driving skills, if you have them

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    I always told driving is a privilege, not a right.

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago

    Driving is a privilege, not a right. Easy fix.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    Everyone has the right to drive, provided they can show the required level of skill and competence to do so.

    Unfortunately, unskilled and incompetent describes far too many drivers.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago

    Driving is not a right, it's a privilege.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    Yesterday on the way home I thought I was going to be affluenza’d by some crazy kid in a green glittery wrapped Beamer. They were so close to my bumper and making so many jerking, erratic movements that I was too worried to merge lest they did at the same time and sent us all rolling. Traffic was dense enough that I couldn’t speed up and really couldn’t safely merge initially. They ended up driving down the middle of the two lane highway and nearly ran a few people into the ditch. At least my demise would have been on the dash cam I guess.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    In a civilised country, driving would be reserved for those capable of doing so safely and efficiently (the qualifications would be on a par with certifications for operating similarly powerful industrial machinery, and would not be graded on a curve to ensure a car-dependent society can function), but infrastructure would be designed so that one could live a full life without driving.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    In the immortal words of George Carlin: "Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?"

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    You may like : « Traffic management » with Michael Douglas (Falling Down,1990)

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Driving is a privilege, not a right. Or so im told.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    There are no rights in traffic, only obligations.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago

    Driving isn't a right.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago* (8 children)

    Driving isn’t a right, it’s a privilege.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Driving is g a right

    In a city without public transit, denying someone the right to drive is denying them personal autonomy.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

    A vehicle is a 3000lb bullet. If you’re not competent, or irresponsible with chemicals, then everyone on the road is at risk.

    No one likes picking up body parts on a road or extracting what is basically meat from a vehicle. Or meeting people who should’ve had a normal.life and are now paralyzed from the neck down. Or, alternatively, a TBI. Broken neuro wiring like someone took an egg beater to sections of their brain, leaving them just sane enough to know they’re fucked up.

    That isn’t a privilege. Competency should be required with 3000lb bullets.

    I don’t disagree that better mass transit is needed in some cities, but that doesn’t mean we hand drivers licenses to incompetent or irresponsible people.

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  • [+] -6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    A vehicle is 3000lb bullet

    How fast do you think bullets move?

    No one likes picking up body parts on a road or extracting what is basically meat from a vehicle.

    You could make the same argument about train derailments or plane crashes.

    That's not what is at issue. Virtually nobody is seriously suggesting we de-industrialize transit.

    The problem at hand is profit motive. Personal vehicles force people into debt, both directly through purchase and through secondary demands - parking, gasoline, maintenance. That's what generates the economic pressure that keeps them in place.

    If we were fixated on safety, we could make cars smaller and slower and we could shield pedestrians from them with infrastructure. You'd save far more lives by lowering the speed limit than raising the DMV licensing standards.

    that doesn’t mean we hand drivers licenses to incompetent or irresponsible people

    People aren't consistently competent or responsible. So you either install some kind of panopticon for drivers (the private insurance model) and try to price people you suspect are high risk out of your personal risk pool. Or you get people out of cars entirely, knowing anyone can have a day that makes them highly prone to driving mistakes.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    You’re being pedantic. We call them 3000lb bullets to describe what they are when not controlled well, not because of their speed. As a driver, it’s good to think of your vehicle in those terms too.

    As for monitoring, check out Loyal Moses. His vid on what tech Ford just patented.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    you’re right, but the solution is not to give everyone the inalienable right to drive, it’s to redesign the city such that people who can’t drive can still live in it fully (i.e. build public transit and walkable/cyclable path of ways)

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    the solution is not to give everyone the inalienable right to drive

    It's not a question of "solution" writ large. It's a recognition of existing infrastructure and the consequences of denying a subset of the population its use.

    redesign the city such that people who can’t drive

    Sure. Love that idea.

    But, in the meantime, if you've dropped 40 miles of concrete through my neighborhood, such that I need a vehicle to get across it...

    "We should build more pedestrian friendly infrastructure" is very different than "ban a subset of bad drivers and let them pound sand about it"

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Equal rights means you are given equal access to the tools that will allow you to learn to drive. If you’re too stupid to drive that’s an entirely different matter.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    everyone should have the right to fail a driving test...

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