Rejecting Cookies

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[–] 71 points 5 months ago (1 child)

We and our 19,324 legitimate business partners use cookies to offer you the best experience possible!

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    I just wish it was a native feature of browsers instead of something that is part of the page. Like, all the other permissions - camera, microphone, Bluetooth, USB, etc access - are native, why can't be the "hey let me write some crap onto your device that other pages may or may not read" and "hey lemme see what I wrote onto your device when invoked from another website" requests be native too?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Because it would be harder, there are 2 types of cookies: essential ones, necessary for the site to work correctly (remember login, preferences and a bunch of other things) and there are other cookies that are not necessary, and there is no real way to add this distinction since the browser doesn't really have any way to understand which are which; Also, before anyone reply "but if i don't want to remember my login?" Some sites still write temporary cookies to work

    You can also see what cookies are wrote on your device with Developer tools but this is not a viable way for normal users and the cookies will tell you little sometimes

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Adding support for two types of cookies instead of one (and having a default the browser sends to the site) isn't black magic fuckery or some unachievable alchemical process. It's done easily.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I love the concept of "Legitimate interest"... Like, why the hell anyone even consider storing my data in ILLEGITIMATE interest?

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, and apparently "we're legitimately interested in your data" is enough to clear that ridiculously low threshold 🤬

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I would love to know how much my data is actually worth, like to the cent and why.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    to the cent

    I don't know the answer but I feel like you value your data much higher than they do.

    My guess is that they just want to squeeze every single cent out of us all, and if violating our privacy and making our experience worse can give them one additional dollar for every 1000 or 10000 users, that is a price they are willing to pay... or to be precise, that's the price they are willing to sell us for.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Your data is worth much more than that, actually.

    Proton calculates your data is worth, on average, $700/year. Granted, they have a financial interest in making that number as high as possible, because it's basically an ad for them.

    I've read somewhere that data price varies a lot per demographic, with some data being worth just a few $ per year and some other data being worth way more than $1000/y. I can't find the source I read that on, so take it with a grain of salt.

    Either way, it's very certainly more than a few cents per year per person.

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    [–] 25 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Just install the Consent-o-matic extension and you get the benefit of rejecting without the faff 90% of the time

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago* (8 children)
    1. install ublock origin
    2. enable "cookie notices" filters
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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Gasp

    I'm so dumb. I didn't even know I had to enable that... God it should physically hurt to be this stupid

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Not really, its kind of one those things; if you don't know, how could you? Unless you're the kinda person to sit there and read every option of everything.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    What if I want it to hurt? :3

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Add https://* to your filter list.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago

    I hoped it would be mentioned before, but in the EU It shall be as easy to withdraw as to give consent.

    Report such sites for non-compliance.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Or worse: pay to decline cookies

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I like the button that says reject non essential. That should be a required button.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    You need to add 500 surveillance devices at the end of the top segment, and 498 at the end of the bottom segment

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    (for websites you don't use often)

    1. Open link in private tab
    2. Accept all
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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    On many websites, the cookies are created no matter what you choose. It's a dark pattern to get you to accept all, yes, but In the end it's often meaningless.

    Use a decent browser like librewolf which isolates cookies so only the site that created them can access them and clears all cookies on exit - this protects you from bad effects of cookies so you can just accept all. However, you're still susceptible to other methods of tracking (like IP address or browser fingerprint based tracking) unless you use Tor Browser or something similar.

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    [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    I'm using Consent-O-Matic and it works surprisingly well.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Me on the work laptop

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I am authoring an IETF draft to help with this. The agreement formats recently got approved by IEEE.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Oh, where can I inform myself more about your work?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Isnt this a feature in base Firefox? You can tell it to delete all cookies on close except for sites you add exceptions for

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I recently got an ad about these rail chairs for elderly to get up and down the stairs. I am inu 30s and I am proud that me clicking out all non-essential cookies doesn't bring me related ads.

    Also, that ad somehow passed through ublock. Not sure how 😅

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    i used to get spam calls about back pain medication, i'm 26, no back pain yet, thankfully. but they kept calling me nonetheless

    thankfully i'm european so one day i cited the law to be forgotten, and once they told me "sorry we can't :(" and i replied "well you better fix that because that's illegal :)" they hung up immediately and never called me again :D

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    UBlock handles them well if you enable the cookie notice list. If one slips through, I now accept all because cookies are erased as soon as I close my browser

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago*

    Got librewolf, turned the settings a bit more strict than what comes base so cookies and site data don't even get saved. Makes me feel good, with that level of ease.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Why would you put extra effort into telling them you want cookies? Just block everything.

    While you're wasting your time on clicking shitty popups, I'm already reading the page.

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    Just open dev tools, storage, nuke them

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I just use the I Don't Care About Cookies addon.

    I don't know if it's just agreeing or disagreeing, but I suspect they're all selling your data regardless of what you pick.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    What browsers really should implement is to store all third party cookies in a jar for the specific site I am on until I navigate to another domain or close the tab. The cookies are saved and returned to the 3rd party sites embedded in the site I use. But if the same 3rd party sites are also embedded in other sites, they have to send fresh cookies.
    Cookies become useless for tracking and all the legislation specifically around them can be axed.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago*

    Settings > Privacy > Manage> Select unwanted cookies and remove them.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    ALT+F4 also works or cmd+Q

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    I just run uMatrix and AdNauseam on Zen. If a banner shows up after allowing scripts its the good ol' right click > block element.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    just hide cookie-related shit with ublock origin

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